Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-31 Thread robin
I was gong to reply to this earlier but was going to say that most of these producer's idea of "techno" is more Timbaland than Juan Atkins. I'd have guessed at some D&B, UK Garage and people like Dre/Timbaland/ Premier as influences to UK Dubstep producers. Just a guess mind, but over here

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-31 Thread Ciaran Walsh
I agree with all this. A couple of years back I wasted a bit of time over at dubstepforum.com and the unwillingness of many posters back then to listen beyond their genre was both laughable and depressing. Two years on with all the cross-pollination that has occurred, those ultra-partisan view see

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-31 Thread Martin Dust
On 31 Mar 2008, at 09:31, Robert Taylor wrote: Serious - a lot of dubstep producers seem to have been raised in quite a hermetic environment with limited influences - it's only now that they've been made aware of other genres and the sound has converged with other genres in some instances -

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-31 Thread Toby Frith
s of Basic Channel and Chain Reaction is misguided. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2008 09:32 To: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Serious - a lot of dubstep

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-31 Thread Robert Taylor
no Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 22:17 To: Robert Taylor; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) A

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Kowalsky
PROTECTED]> To: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) It's perfectly possible to qualify in the large majority of sequenced

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread /0
"[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) It's perfectly possible to qualify in the large majority of sequenced music producers of today. What is ridiculous is your arrogance an

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Kowalsky
Techno is one among many influences in the dubstep sound. I would not call the influence of techno "second hand". Well it's an influence, not a copy/paste thing. Influences are not supposed to be identical, mimetic. Are supposed to be "filtered", processed, and, sometimes, yes, distorted. I

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Kowalsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the actual drum n' bass scene, i totally agree with you. > But in dubstep, if you listen closely, putting the formulaic > parachuters aside, you'll find influences of dub (of course) techno, > oriental progressions, jazz,

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Kowalsky
In the actual drum n' bass scene, i totally agree with you. But in dubstep, if you listen closely, putting the formulaic parachuters aside, you'll find influences of dub (of course) techno, oriental progressions, jazz, soul, various types of tribal percussions, dancehall and hip-hop. If what

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Kowalsky
ssage - From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) No. But sometimes the sa

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread /0
coming from you tom, thats a seal of approval. I wont let you down - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:36 PM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Somethi

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 6:35 PM, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that statement is both ridiculous and impossible to qualify. much like everything you say! tom

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread /0
ol! name? - Original Message - From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Joel Gajewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (3

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Joel Gajewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you messing with me or are you serious? I would assume that a guy in the > music > producing industry would have seen at least one copy of Sheet One or Musik. > Just my > opinion. I wasn't listening to dance music

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Kowalsky
aylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Joel Gajewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simp

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Joel Gajewski
eal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:38:54 AM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users&#x

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Michael Kuszynski
ool! name? > > - Original Message - > From: "Robert Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Joel Gajewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, March 28, 20

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread /0
rreal.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:51 PM Subject: RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Techno/electronic artists aren't known for their imagination - it's always been a bugbear of mine - too many techno artists give themselves predictable sci-fi

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Alex Lugo
Those are his intitials, so I don't know if that trumps words. :) - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:45:57 AM Subject: RE

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
nope just one man, a drum machine, and his bluetooth MEK "Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/28/2008 12:09:50 PM: > If it's a joint venture between Jean-Luc De Meyer, Dietrich > Schoenemann, and Thomas de Quincy, that's fine. > > On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
If it's a joint venture between Jean-Luc De Meyer, Dietrich Schoenemann, and Thomas de Quincy, that's fine. On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with Cybertronic 909? -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
predictable sci-fi name and track titles > > > Rob Taylor > VT Librarian > x8599 > Hatch Desk x1088 > VT Library Users' Guide > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 > To: Robe

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Robert Taylor
From: Matt Kane's Brain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2008 16:45 To: Robert Taylor Cc: Joel Gajewski; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: > He was probably telling t

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: He was probably telling the truth - why would he have heard of him? He's not exactly famous And it's not exactly rare to have pseudonymous techno artists with the same pseudonym. MIA, for example, did not get sued by either UR or Sub Sta

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Robert Taylor
rg Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami) Plasticman tried to claim that he had never heard of Plastikman in an early interview a few years ago. :rollseyes: Sure, buddy. "I'm Plasticman, with a 'C' though. It's different."

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Joel Gajewski
. What? - Original Message From: Matt Kane's Brain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:52:57 AM Subject: Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
"Matt Kane's Brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/28/2008 10:52:57 AM: > On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Plastic man vs Plastikman > > Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. LOL! Plastician? > > > AS1 vs As One > > > I think there is a case for the pronunciati

Re: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Matt Kane's Brain
On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plastic man vs Plastikman Plasticman changed his name to Plastician. AS1 vs As One I think there is a case for the pronunciation of that as Ay Ess One. -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com aim -> mkbatwerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: (313) what's in a name (was:venting/Something Simple, Miami)

2008-03-28 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
AS1? there should be a battle off for use of name Plastic man vs Plastikman AS1 vs As One any others? tangents tangents all around MEK "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 03/28/2008 10:28:59 AM: > That reminds me ... > > http://www.isophlux.net/events.html > > If you just so happen t