to be the same?
Cheers
Martin
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <3
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>no offense intended, just dont need Cox Jr. putting words in my
mouth
>
>"the other guy,"
sorry, i couldnt remember who send the original and since it was
edited out i couldnt just grab it from there.
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ok- we get it, you don't like hawtin.
can the rest of us
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>ok- we get it, you don't like hawtin.
>
>can the rest of us have a conversation now?
>
>sheesh
i dont see why the other guy making blatantly irritating
generalizations about jeff mills is okay but if i say the
I just went back and re-read the quote. interestingly, only half the
later half is a direct quote, the previous paragraph being the writer's
explanation of the concept, therefore highly suspect...
but- i think the premise here is that of primalism (a word used by the
writer later on in the piece
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it's interesting to me because i wrote essentailly the same article for
urb this past summer. and i'll admit, a blinding weekend in berlin with
hawtin and company is a heady experience that'll get you thinking about
what it all means.
of course- i don't have the capacity for such verbos (pretentio
ok- we get it, you don't like hawtin.
can the rest of us have a conversation now?
sheesh
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
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> From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go
On Fri Nov 12 5:13 , '/0' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on and on about
>what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating and changing
>sound through the years) is looked on as getting a bit too wanky?
>
>please correct me
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>maybe I misunderstand you, but its OK for mills to go on and on
and on about
>what is basically 4/4 bangers, while hawtin (who IS innovating
and changing
>sound through the years) is looked on as get
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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:57 PM
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> Sent: 11 November 2004 02:09
> To: fwdthought; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Metro Times: Detroit
>
> http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6949
>
> see huge Hawtin cov
lol!!
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And Ritchie looking in through the
's.
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I kinda like that, makes sense in a world where the highest accolade is
to be be in The Simpsons...
Cheers
Martin
I kinda like that, makes sense in a world where the highest accolade is
to be be in The Simpsons...
Cheers
Martin
On 11 Nov 2004, at 07:29, Fred Heutte wrote:
"Viewed through the prism of a dialectical society that’s
reinventing logic from experience rather than predetermined
systems of belie
"Viewed through the prism of a dialectical society thats
reinventing logic from experience rather than predetermined
systems of belief, this description twinkles with innocence
and romance."
Another mythification of the endless search to Be Where
The Cool Kids Are.
-- fh
On Nov 10, 2004, at 8:09 PM, SeanDeason© wrote:
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6949
i like this brief abstract. but does anyone have access to the full
article, i need something more in-depth.
;)
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From: SeanDeason© <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6949
>
>see huge Hawtin cover story. discuss.
all this mumbo jumbo would be a whole lot more interesting if
hawtin still made and played good mus
'"It’s kind of like that,” Hawtin says. “There’s no me there anymore.
It’s not important for me to control anything. There’s nothing
conscious about it. There’s no ego in it."'
Uh oh, he's starting to sound like Autechre!
On Nov 10, 2004, at 21:09, SeanDeason© wrote:
http://www.metrotimes.co
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=6949
see huge Hawtin cover story. discuss.
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Greg Earle wrote:
> I'm saddened to see all the mudslinging in the Metro Times article.
I'd hardly call that article mudslinging. Lisa Collins is a real
journalist, not a music or culture writer. What she did was reveal a
conflict that needs to be resolved. If the entire ar
;
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> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: Robert Taylor
> Cc: Somewhere in Internet
> Subject: RE: (313) Metro Times article (Sheffield [Was: "May day"])
>
>
> On Thu, 22 May 20
y'all know that.. :o)
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Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 3:03 PM
To: Robert Taylor
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Subject: RE: (313) Metro Times article (Sheffield [Was: "May day"])
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Robe
22/5/03 3:02 PM Jussi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> A shipping-crate with no label?-)
We even cover the labels up on our 12"s up here, can't give too much away...
Martin
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Robert Taylor wrote:
> Sheffield is UK's answer to Detroit - those bleak industrial
> surroundings must do something to the brain and make you want to make
> bleeps and beats!
I might've said this earlier (way back), but it was nice to notice a real
life connection in a TV
>
> :) yeah i bet, so derrick may says everything follows a four year cycle in
> clubland, surely the 'crasher/hard "house"/trance thing has gotta come to
> an end soon??
>
> robin...
>
>
Enter DUST :) The Gravy Train End here, stick your corporate clubbing...
> > from what i can tell i think the weather is way worse in detroit for
> > most of the year than in sheffield tho martin...
> >
> > hard to believe i know
> >
> > robin...
> >
> >
>
> I can stand the weather, but I would swap the Trance/Gatecrasher/Hard house
> for anything going.
:) yeah i bet,
> from what i can tell i think the weather is way worse in detroit for
> most of the year than in sheffield tho martin...
>
> hard to believe i know
>
> robin...
>
>
I can stand the weather, but I would swap the Trance/Gatecrasher/Hard house
for anything going. I may add Sheffield United to th
> 22/5/03 3:17 PM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Sheffield is UK's answer to Detroit - those bleak industrial surroundings
> > must
> > do something to the brain and make you want to make bleeps and beats! I
> > think
> > Dan Sicko made the comparison in Techno Rebels.
> >
>
> Yes he did, he for
22/5/03 3:17 PM Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sheffield is UK's answer to Detroit - those bleak industrial surroundings must
> do something to the brain and make you want to make bleeps and beats! I think
> Dan Sicko made the comparison in Techno Rebels.
>
Yes he did, he forgot to mention all the T
ay 22, 2003 3:12 PM
To: Grammenos, Peter; 'Lester Kenyatta Spence'; Greg Earle
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Metro Times article ("May day")
I got me a button and I'm about 3000 miles away and will probably be
spending the weekend in rainy Sheffield, like the man
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote:
> who in the hell contacted the brazilian? if they wanted an expat with
> letters they could have contacted me
>
> i can understand the rest of the article. you have to note the logistic
> problems...and the controversies. the race angle to
h the drama...
>
> -p
>
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> From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:08 AM
> To: Greg Earle
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
Who cares, everyone just buy a damn button and squash the drama...
-p
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From: Lester Kenyatta Spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:08 AM
To: Greg Earle
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (313) Metro Times article ("Ma
who in the hell contacted the brazilian? if they wanted an expat with
letters they could have contacted me
i can understand the rest of the article. you have to note the logistic
problems...and the controversies. the race angle too. but getting
someone who doesn't know 8 mile from a hole i
I'm saddened to see all the mudslinging in the Metro Times article.
Maybe it's the wisdom and perspective of age, but all I know is that
every May in Hart Plaza there is something that nothing else that
happens on the North American continent can touch with a ten foot pole.
Something that is so so
http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4932
Nice one, Lisa Collins. With some choice wake-up words from Derrick May.
I have no doubt there were lots of loose ends and plenty of problems
putting this together.
I'm not in the prediction business, but here's what I say: the music
is goi
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> to view the photo in question go to metrotimes.com , click on "arts" then
> click "2002 photo contest". its the first place winner. download image and
> use it as y
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>Date: Tue, Jun 25, 2002, 7:11 PM
>
> The cover art in question was the winning entry to mt's annual photography
> contest. part of the
,
John Kohlstrand
Rochester, N.Y. USA
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> From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 9:09 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org; Jason Donnelly
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The cover art in question was the winning entry to mt's annual photography
contest. part of the winner's award package is front cover exposure...
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From: "Jason Donnelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
!
>
> the fact the front cover was of a picture of a minor (well
> looks like a minor) with a her hand down her pants giving herself some
sort
> of pleasure (didn't look like she wasn't enjoying herself) only goes to
> reinfor
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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:26 AM
Subject: [313] metro times?
> Morning all!
>
> Good friend recently posted over some Detroit stuff for me and included
was
>
Morning all!
Good friend recently posted over some Detroit stuff for me and included was
a copy of the Metro times (May 29 - June 24, 2002). Now maybe I live a
sheltered live but is it always this sexually explicit???, i.e. the Dan
Savage column, the subject matter here was XXX rated, the Isad
richie edits and remixes a lot of the mp3 tracks he plays on final scratch.
so trainspotting some of his tracks may be a waste of time.
james
www.jbucknell.com
> From: "scotto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:30:53 -0400
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
&
I did only read that part of the article, maybe I should
have read the whole thing!
but I was pretty sure it was not true considering the
party only lasted 14 hrs. and rich maybe spun 8.
but the collapsing part was maybe beleivable since he
was stumbling around twords the end of the party, but
At 11:06 AM -0400 6/3/02, sean deason wrote:
before you start a widespread panic. read the article again. it was
meant to be
satire. after that statement, the writer says something to the effect of "at
least that's what I was *hoping* to report on". with the report starting out
with those strang
Is that article online? I was looking for it on the website and couldn't
find anything...
Eric
At 11:06 AM 6/3/2002 -0400, sean deason wrote:
before you start a widespread panic. read the article again. it was meant
to be
satire. after that statement, the writer says something to the effect o
not being
accustomed to seeing humor in the Metro Times, but it was pretty >cute :^)
That's because it was in Real Detroit Weekly.
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before you start a widespread panic. read the article again. it was meant to be
satire. after that statement, the writer says something to the effect of "at
least that's what I was *hoping* to report on". with the report starting out
with those strange statements, it was confusing at first for me t
rg
> Subject: [313] metro times and hawtin's ambient track from control
>
> what I remember is the music broke down and this vocal, kinda like a speach
> came in, and rich made the last words spoken in to a sort of synth line.
>
> if this is the track I can not tell from this
what I remember is the music broke down and this vocal, kinda like a speach
came in, and rich made the last words spoken in to a sort of synth line.
if this is the track I can not tell from this sample but it did not sound
like this in my mind, it seemed like it sould have been faster, maybe it
ki
> hopefully next year she won't be involved.
>
only if there is a god, and this god you pray to at starbuckks.
scotto
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n really be
something on the world scene. Not exploiting Detroit but believing that
Detroit can rise and become something really great.
?dave
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To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] metro times article
At 10:09 AM -0400 5/23/02, Dan Sicko wrote:
I hear you Fred.
I just have trouble with the polarized grouping of "dance" and "IDM"
styles. There were all kinds of other genres and styles represented
in the first two festivals. Ones you could dance to, too.
excuse me, "party" and "IDM" ... to
I hear you Fred.
I just have trouble with the polarized grouping of "dance" and "IDM"
styles. There were all kinds of other genres and styles represented
in the first two festivals. Ones you could dance to, too.
Lumping everything but house and techno into" IDM" seems a bit
convenient, and
o the music retailer is down there this year? i
know record time is not doing it.
ani
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: : Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 12:29 AM
: : To: 313@hyperreal.org
: : Subject: Re: [313] metro times article - rant
: :
: :
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From: "Fred Heutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm concerned about this idea that this year's lineup just makes the
> DEMF into a "daytime rave." Would it be good to have more experimental/
> "IDM" in the lineup? Maybe yes -- or maybe not *this* year. Maybe *this*
> yea
props to lisa for saying what the other papers cant say due to contractual
obligations or just plain stupidity.
i like this quote from Dan Sordyl because it cuts to the chase of the
matter:
"You've got to give Carol Marvin credit for making this happen against all
odds. The first year they pulle
I'm concerned about this idea that this year's lineup just makes the
DEMF into a "daytime rave." Would it be good to have more experimental/
"IDM" in the lineup? Maybe yes -- or maybe not *this* year. Maybe *this*
year it ought to be more about movement and getting your groove on, and
as a danc
"The Detroit Free Press, another festival sponsor, worked hard, she says, to
gain a stage sponsorship."
the artists and labels in detroit work hard and essentially *are* detroit
electronic music, past and present. so why can't they afford to have a
tent?
"I believe in bringing people together,"
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