Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread wojciech
Pics of the original vinyl from the early '80s: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanjunell/348052866 On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Kevin Kennedy wrote: > All of the edits I've done (and frankly I can only speak to my own > philosophy on this) have been kind of personal.  I wanted to do > Kraft

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Kevin Kennedy
All of the edits I've done (and frankly I can only speak to my own philosophy on this) have been kind of personal. I wanted to do Kraftwerk's Hall of Mirrors and re-vision it as a near tech-house groove...I wanted to see if I could make a song by The System sound like an industrial track...I wante

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread David Powers
Meant to say: "life is too SHORT to waste time..." etc. On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:43 AM, David Powers wrote: > Yeah, I mean I don't really listen all these edits, but if 1 minute of > cheese ruins 5 minutes of genius, what's wrong with improving it? That > said, I personally don't have time for

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread David Powers
Yeah, I mean I don't really listen all these edits, but if 1 minute of cheese ruins 5 minutes of genius, what's wrong with improving it? That said, I personally don't have time for such shenanigans, there are so many good records out there already, life is too to waste time editing ones that don't

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread kent williams
If the original was good on its own terms, you don't improve it by editing it. There's a bazillion 'disco edits' right now, and they bother me because they take something with its own internal pace and flow, and fit it to the procrustean bed of DJ expediency. And usually, to fit the ADD no-soul m

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Dust
On 13 Apr 2010, at 16:12, David Powers wrote: > What difference does "being true to the original make?" > > It's not like we are talking about Mozart or Beethoven here. I say if > it sounds better, it is better! > > ~David Hey David, I understand what he means, as an artist you have to take o

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread David Powers
What difference does "being true to the original make?" It's not like we are talking about Mozart or Beethoven here. I say if it sounds better, it is better! ~David On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:13 AM, kent williams wrote: > A lot of Disco is 'naff and commercial' and still kicks butt.  "Dr. > Love

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Kevin Kennedy
After hearing all of this madness, buying the album, etc. I am thinking of editing/remixing 4 of the ragas...I will post the results if I do...I think there is something there for me...and I don't know that my current style of Djing will allow me to play them straight up...well, that and I've fini

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Dust
On 13 Apr 2010, at 14:35, Robert Taylor wrote: > One word: ITALO Good point Rob...

RE: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Robert Taylor
One word: ITALO Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -Original Message- From: Ravinder S Mann [mailto:rav.m...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 April 2010 14:34 To: kent williams Cc: Martin Dust; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India I should r

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Ravinder S Mann
I should reword really. Commercial doesn't bother me at all. I can do cheesy too as there's fun to be found (for a time). Tho' naff is naff. On 13 April 2010 14:13, kent williams wrote: > A lot of Disco is 'naff and commercial' and still kicks butt.  "Dr. > Love" for example. > > I had a long dis

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Dust
> > Tho' at the time I thought it was a bit naff and commercial. Nods, a lot of the UK Funky stuff sounds like this to me, my first track on a M1 or dial the worst sound ever - one of the main guys told me he did it as a joke m

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread kent williams
A lot of Disco is 'naff and commercial' and still kicks butt. "Dr. Love" for example. I had a long discussion with Tom Cox about disco edits and he made a valid point -- either a track is too cheesy to play, or it isn't, and playing an edit that cuts out the cheesy bits just isn't true to the ori

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Ravinder S Mann
Here's something else, Geeta on the money with this post. http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/2010/04/further-thoughts-on-ten-ragas-to-a-disco-beat/ On 13 April 2010 14:01, Ravinder S Mann wrote: > Spot on Martin. Its all about cassettes and lofts, My sister has or at > least had loads of Bolly

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Ravinder S Mann
Spot on Martin. Its all about cassettes and lofts, My sister has or at least had loads of Bollywood soundtracks on cassettes. Some of the disco based stuff was pretty good with real strings in retrospect. Tho' at the time I thought it was a bit naff and commercial. On 13 April 2010 13:48, Martin D

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Samuel Karmel
when i was in india recently i bought a little bit of bollywood acid house...bappi lahiri jamed out the 303 in the 1983 movie WANTED dead or alive its friggin amazing acid meet moricone...so yeah i never thought about the date situation but it does pre-date acid house! i'm sure there is more o

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Dust
Had this for a while, it's cool and real. I honestly think there's probably a load more tracks/albums like this sitting in peoples' lofts on C60's. First band I saw using one was a club band doing cover versions! m On 13 Apr 2010, at 13:38, kent williams wrote: > I got the digital version of

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Placid
they think they're real. >> >> Anyway, it's great music, regardless of when it was made, or indeed by whom! >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: fran...@thatamazingthing.com [mailto:fran...@thatamazingthing.com] >> Sent:

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread kent williams
I got the digital version of this the other day. I find it really enjoyable listening, both for it's proto-techno qualities, but also because of its inherent musicality. The guy plays some absolutely ripping raga solos on the synth, generally using a legato, liquid sounding synth patch. That comb

RE: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Odeluga, Ken
y think they're real. Anyway, it's great music, regardless of when it was made, or indeed by whom! Ken -Original Message- From: fran...@thatamazingthing.com [mailto:fran...@thatamazingthing.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313)

Re: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread Ravinder S Mann
Further clips. http://www.bombay-connection.com/en_GB/site/page/1/releases There loads of soundtrack based rock and roll/funk/disco/rap in Bollywood movies as it tends to follow Hollywood music and western popular music of the time. But this seems like a isolated development. I guess Charanjit Si

RE: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread francis
Sorry, just had the link in the article pointed out to me. NP! What do folks think? > -Original Message- > From: fran...@thatamazingthing.com [mailto:fran...@thatamazingthing.com] > Sent: 13 April 2010 12:44 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 303s, 808s and Indi

RE: (313) 303s, 808s and India

2010-04-13 Thread francis
Mate you have a funny idea of off topic! Sure this falls right within most people on here's area of interest. Had heard of this before recently (in connection with a comp I think). Been dying to hear it, anyone know if there if a clip anywhere online? Indian makes acid house record 5 years befo