Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-09 Thread darnistle
Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: manix "feels real good" (licensed to KMS for some 313 relevance BTW) And then there's: Love Nation "Musical Foundations" Terrorize "Its Just a Feeling" Isotonik "Different Strokes" Convert "Nightbird" Noise Factory "Can You Feel The Rush" Cool Hand Flex "Hold Bac

RE: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall (dj)

2005-05-06 Thread alex . bond
>Well yes, saying that there's nothing new under the sun is a strong argument, but it's a double edged sword since >the it can be applied to any forms of music, including the ones that you hold dear. true dan, true indeed. *note to self, shut the f**k up* ha ha _

RE: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall (dj)

2005-05-06 Thread Dan Bean
Well yes, saying that there's nothing new under the sun is a strong argument, but it's a double edged sword since the it can be applied to any forms of music, including the ones that you hold dear. Another way of looking at it is whether a genre has tracks that have 'soul'. Personally I think e

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-06 Thread alex . bond
>Was it a roller skate rink? I went to Dreamscape 2 or something and remember >there was a huge roller skate rink next door, but the rave was just in a >huge dusty big empty warehouse space. Hmm, I think the first one was in the rollerskate thing maybe, or perhaps they just called it that cos it

RE: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall (dj)

2005-05-06 Thread alex . bond
>This thread isn't long enough already in my opinion, so I'd like to add >that I can't see much relation to happy hardcore and drum 'n' bass, (or >'jungle') although I do see how they evolved from similar origins. I'd say they were definitley linked. all the producers came out of the hardcore sc

RE: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall (dj)

2005-05-06 Thread Odeluga, Ken
Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN 020 7842 9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2005 18:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) +

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-06 Thread Stewart Caig
> God, I remember the first ever rave there. when it was still a roller skate > rink. > it seemed like the whole school went. I thought hmm, f**k that. > Was it a roller skate rink? I went to Dreamscape 2 or something and remember there was a huge roller skate rink next door, but the rave was just

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-06 Thread alex . bond
>Yeah Milton Keynes was a hub of hardcore activity back then. Well, has been >ever since really, for all the genres it spawned. We had the hardcore Mecca >that was the Sanctuary God, I remember the first ever rave there. when it was still a roller skate rink. it seemed like the whole school went.

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-06 Thread Dan . Butler
Yeah Milton Keynes was a hub of hardcore activity back then. Well, has been ever since really, for all the genres it spawned. We had the hardcore Mecca that was the Sanctuary (massive venue, recently levelled by the bulldozers, for better or worse), bringing kids from far and wide to go loony all n

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-06 Thread Jason Brunton
It's always hard trying to "genre-ify" music but I wouldn't have called ANY of those tracks Happy Hardcore either. That style of music was MASSIVE in Scotland in the early 90's until about 95-96 and I can assure you, none of it had any of the qualities of early Reinforced, Goldie etc. Matt w

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Gary Robinson
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> > Dan Butler and Gary will tell you - where I was living at the time, it was > slap bang in the middle of all this, and it was far far larger than any > musical sub genre you get today. i.e. 'the garage' thing or whatev

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Garrett McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >sorry but, Bukem (BUKEM??), Metalheadz, Gerald, Rufige Kru... not >"happy hardcore". like, not at all. argh, again i was looking at the early bit of hardcore for music with depth etc. obvio

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I was acctually trying to extend an olive branch but apparently all you >wanted to do was flex, as per usual. thats certainly not how i interpret "whatever" but ill take your word for it

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Garrett McGrath
sorry but, Bukem (BUKEM??), Metalheadz, Gerald, Rufige Kru... not "happy hardcore". like, not at all. On May 5, 2005, at 12:11 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: - Original Message -- From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> its not your job to be an asshxle either

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.
I was acctually trying to extend an olive branch but apparently all you wanted to do was flex, as per usual. For the record, I know about 6 of the tracks you mentioned, and would never EVER classify them as "happy hardcore". Had you mentioned "Cookin Up Your Brains" i might have been able

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >i dont rememeber my reply to you going public. > > >do you REALLY think everyone on this lists wants to sit through yet >another one of our p*ssing contests? again, sorry about that. its

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >please dont forward priv emails back to the list so you have an audience >when you want to talk smack to someone my bad, i didnt even notice. i have my filters set up to catch the 313 in the "to" field

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.
i dont rememeber my reply to you going public. do you REALLY think everyone on this lists wants to sit through yet another one of our p*ssing contests? derek. On Thu, 5 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: -- Original Message -- From: "Derek Pl

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread /0
please dont forward priv emails back to the list so you have an audience when you want to talk smack to someone - Original Message - From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re:

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> all i really have to say is that some people really mean it when >> they say they listen to all kinds of music. you can look down on >> it all you want, its not my job to make you underst

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread fab.
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of lik

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
: <313@hyperreal.org> >Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:48 PM >Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) > > >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
- Original Message -- From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >its not your job to be an asshxle either but you seem intent on taking up >that cause from time to time. but dont we all :) > >seriously, post some artist and track names, I'd like to check it out too

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >but, you're confusing matters. I'm talking about music from 1991 or so. >which then evolved into other things. this music was HUGE here as a youth >culture thing, you couldn't escape it. i like some of the 91-

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread /0
TECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:48 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) -- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yeah i cant re

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) +robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: matt kane's brain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >At 01:15 PM 5/5/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: >>you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like >>the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in >>jung

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: "Derek Plaslaiko." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >yeah i cant resist. > >it figures. > >BUT, I am not so closed minded that I rule out everything Matt said. If >this music that I consider to be an utter waste of electricity has some

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: Placid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > errr i disagree but can't be arsed to go into how good the acid explosion of 88 was you dont have to explain. i love me some acid (prolly not as much as you though ;) but man, those years for th

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Derek Plaslaiko.
yeah i cant resist. it figures. BUT, I am not so closed minded that I rule out everything Matt said. If this music that I consider to be an utter waste of electricity has some kind of validity, then show me. Ill listen. derek. On Thu, 5 May 2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread fab.
maybe that means something to someone else. I was thinking he would be playing gescom-style tracks. he did; sorry i wasnt too clear on that it was good vaguely danceable idm of the skam/gescom variety, with the 3-4 hardcore tracks

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread fab.
so was he playing this, or more recent candy-drug happycore or trancecore or freeform or whatever it is? (ughh) -- just the stuff you would expect from 91-92he only played 3-4 tracks btw, no big deal, but better than a heartless set, whatever the genre, and that is what the evening f

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread matt kane's brain
At 01:28 PM 5/5/2005, Matt MacQueen wrote: Maybe someone needs post a mix of the GOOD happy hardcore, cause that's all i remember what I saw/heard and I was absolutely shocked (and maybe this is just my US-outlook bias, UK'ers seem to have connected with it more?) that it lasted as long as it d

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Matt MacQueen
On May 5, 2005, at 12:20 PM, /0 wrote: might I add that rob halls detroit appearance is being labeled as a GESCOM set? wait, you mean GESCOM doesn't equal kids with pacifiers, candy necklaces, inflatable huge white mickey-mouse gloves, rave glow whistles, chipmunk vocal samples and cartoon t

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread alex . bond
>you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like >the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in >jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. I think the 'energy' comment is very much a subjective thing Tom. i.e. you think it is, I don't.

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread /0
DJ - Original Message - From: "matt kane's brain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj) At 01:15 PM 5/5/2005, T

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread matt kane's brain
At 01:15 PM 5/5/2005, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. so was he playing this, or more recent candy-drug ha

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Placid
you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. errr i disagree but can't be arsed to go into how good the acid explosion of 88 was p ___

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread dan
I hate to admit it, but he's right... At 1:15 pm -0400 5/5/05, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote: you can all feel free to talk as much sh*t as you like, but i like the early happy hardcore very much. that energy of like 93-96 in jungle and hardcore is unmatched in any other genres of music. tom __

Re: (313) detroit, may 12, autechre(live) + SND(live) + robhall(dj)

2005-05-05 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
-- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Maybe Rob Hall actually quite likes Happy Hardcore? I'm going to take >a wild stab in the dark and guess that you don't (don't remember >seeing any in your playlists at least), but that doesn't mean that >ot