RE: [313] the race debate

2001-04-04 Thread Steven Taylor
ries, borders I am shocked that you wish to simply > ignore those > wishing to exploit it and ridicule those wishing to maintain > it and thrive > from their efforts and contributions. > > > >From: Steven Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'313@hyperrea

RE: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Michael Kim
D], 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:40:52 With a tag line of: Ford Focus...Detroit Techno sponsoring a Moby tour...what do you suggest? Shall a Mike Banks or a Juan Atkins for example, sit back and let someone else make his money and benefit from their e

Re: [313] The race Debate

2001-04-03 Thread george . jones
What's with all the 313 - Ann Arbor residents? I knew I wasn't the only one, but dayum! :) And as far as the Subject, for those who had a problem with it, I was just saying that I was annoyed with the race and techno debate, and how it makes me feel to be a suburban white kid who is 23 years

Re: [313] The race Debate

2001-04-03 Thread Scott Brandon
OK... I guess I kinda started all this mess in a way, and now I want to clarify what I was trying to say last night at 5:00 in the morning I was just basically defending my, as a white kid from the suburbs of detroit, right to give proper respect to black artists and their music I feel th

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread dan ito
this is so ridiculous. why don't you take this discussion into personal e-mail? stop blowing up my mailbox. From: Dan Sicko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: atomly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:21:00 -0400

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Jonny McIntosh
> 313 created what? Electronic dance music was not created in Detroit. Umm, Detroit Techno. > What if people started saying that black, American people have no business > sampling or being inspired by Kraftwerk? It would be ridiculous. Have Derrick May, Afrika Bambatta or Carl Craig given the p

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread atomly
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:21:00PM -0400, Dan Sicko wrote: > >What if people started saying that black, American people have no business > >sampling or being inspired by Kraftwerk? > or Kraftwerk having no business being inspired by James Brown. > > this train of thought could go on forever, no?

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Dan Sicko
313 created what? Electronic dance music was not created in Detroit. What if people started saying that black, American people have no business sampling or being inspired by Kraftwerk? or Kraftwerk having no business being inspired by James Brown. this train of thought could go on forever,

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread atomly
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:40:52PM +, laura gavoor wrote: > With a tag line of: Ford Focus...Detroit Techno sponsoring a Moby > tour...what do you suggest? > > Shall a Mike Banks or a Juan Atkins for example, sit back and let someone > else make his money and benefit from their efforts whil

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread peter mueller
ot;normal society's " mistakes to improve our own and others life. may the force be with you peter - Original Message - From: laura gavoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: RE:

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread laura gavoor
W: Thanks for the provocation regarding our chosen vocation :] From: Charles Prince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:07:48 -0400 "Folks find it easier to win ar

RE: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread laura gavoor
s and contributions. From: Steven Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> Subject: RE: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:22:34 +0100 > > Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets, > > but I caution

RE: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread laura gavoor
r was just the tip of the iceberg. If you truly believe in this music and culture perhaps you might like to join in the fight for its defense and longevity. From: Steven Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:19:52 +

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Charles Prince
"Folks find it easier to win arguments when they demonize the opposition." Yeah, too true. Next thing you know someone will be calling me a fascist. Talk about shooting the messenger...though KDJ doesn't need me to defend his views. Glad I pushed a few buttons. Though I've seen some thoughtful, va

RE: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Steven Taylor
> > Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets, > > but I caution > > you. If this does, in fact, occur as it has been outlined to > > me, the global > > family...and I mean the FOR REAL mugs-- the world over-- will > > respond. Try > > to take over, white wash, distort, dive

RE: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Steven Taylor
> Some of you will be the first in line to buy your tickets, > but I caution > you. If this does, in fact, occur as it has been outlined to > me, the global > family...and I mean the FOR REAL mugs-- the world over-- will > respond. Try > to take over, white wash, distort, divert or dilute a

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread laura gavoor
MAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] the race debate Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:12:54 -0400 (EDT) On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > is oh so exciting. > > y'all should shut up and read this article: > http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_h

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Jason Hill
Here's a fact Nick: I like Techno. You're failing to realize that there is a considerable difference between an opinion, which is necessarily based on a limited amount of objective experience combined with subjective judgements, and a fact, which might require no objective exp

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Kent williams
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lester Kenyatta Spence wrote: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > is oh so exciting. > > > > y'all should shut up and read this article: > > http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html > > > > and please, post about a million more time

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Nick Walsh
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So this article is fact?? > > What about this? > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/548387.asp > > Is this fact also? There is no such thing as fact... Check the Flat Earth Society for example... You can prove any opinion wrong if you think about it long enough... There

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread Lester Kenyatta Spence
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > is oh so exciting. > > y'all should shut up and read this article: > http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_1_whats_holding_blacks.html > > and please, post about a million more times about it. we'd like that. OkI'll start off first. Homeboy is

Re: [313] the race debate

2001-04-03 Thread oliver . barkovic
So this article is fact?? What about this? http://www.msnbc.com/news/548387.asp Is this fact also? ibid. Ollie Forward Music 2001.schedule 04-14 - Machina2 - Toronto - DJ/Live set with Juan Atkins - Kooky Scientist 05-28 - DEMF - DJ/Live - 1pm-3pm Underground stage [EMAIL PROTECTED]