Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread pmarin
I thought all the discussion of how the development process should be more open ended with the creation of 9front. For me one of the best things about 9front is that I can follow all the changes in the code by reading their mailing list. pmarin On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Bruce Ellis wrote:

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
I don't really understand this thread. I thought it was a stupid flame war, in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling a spade a fucking shovel. I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had been lost because of bullshit, but said nothing. If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can replace

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2013/9/6 erik quanstrom : >> > I created it I do what I want with it. >> >> I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored >> by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix. > > who is getting grants to work on nix? > >> > as far as i know, there is no pr

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi/Qemu Networking Problems

2013-09-06 Thread Sean Hinchee
On 09/06/2013 09:45 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 20:40:26 CDT Sean Hinchee wrote: I've just touched the surface of Plan 9 and am trying to get networking functional. In Qemu and on the Pi my /net/iproute is virtually the same ( http://i.imgur.com/Yv7xnNS.png ). The image is the Qem

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> > I created it I do what I want with it. > > I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored > by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix. who is getting grants to work on nix? > > as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on >

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi/Qemu Networking Problems

2013-09-06 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 20:40:26 CDT Sean Hinchee wrote: > I've just touched the surface of Plan 9 and am trying to get networking > functional. In Qemu and on the Pi my /net/iproute is virtually the same > ( http://i.imgur.com/Yv7xnNS.png ). The image is the Qemu and the Pi is > the same except it

[9fans] Raspberry Pi/Qemu Networking Problems

2013-09-06 Thread Sean Hinchee
I've just touched the surface of Plan 9 and am trying to get networking functional. In Qemu and on the Pi my /net/iproute is virtually the same ( http://i.imgur.com/Yv7xnNS.png ). The image is the Qemu and the Pi is the same except it is missing the 10* and 0* entries. ip/ipconfig returns a DHC

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Nemo
On Sep 7, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored > by public money. People are getting research grants to work on nix. Just for the record, we got not a single cent for nix. As far as lsub is concerned, it's been a free

[9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Terry Wendt
Ok, I am "The Official Village Idiot", but I always assumed that if you wanted a piece of software you could write it yourself? Or at least learn how to contribute to writing it? Or maybe find several tools to pipe together and script a little and maybe get what you needed done done? Of course

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
> Good grief, I write lots of code for plan9, only some of which I > decide is successfull and well written enough to release. This is my > choice and only mine I don't remember you bragging about your unpublished work though. > I created it I do what I want with it. I believe the rules are diff

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Steve Simon : Don't get me wrong, I am all for sharing code but its to authors right to decide not to share if they wish. You're preaching to the choir there. My personal opinion is the last thing the world needs is more computer software; it merely encourages people to create mo

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread BurnZeZ
"The main development tree is hosted in sources.lsub.org" - http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html If true, there has been little unified progress. If false, then isn't this all about misrepresentation? As far as I can tell, the only person to have posted to syssoftware is Ballesteros. If those posts are r

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
I think its almost ready at least to try and take a look, I will try to put out a copy next week, unless other authors ask me not to. any useful bit for "production" usage will be shared, anyway, we have always done it that way. In short, I agree 100% with Steve. On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:27 AM,

[9fans] p9p mk(1) syntax

2013-09-06 Thread dexen deVries
in p9p mk, this works as expected: foo = `{echo bar} but the following does not -- rc(1) indicates syntax error: foo = `{echo `{echo bar}} strace indicates that mk(1) passes input to rc(1) with no closing braces at all. i'm using MKSHELL = rc. -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]] Take care of the

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Steve Simon
> Aram's point, obviously, is not that working on nix is insulting. > Pretending you are a better judge than the whole world on whether > something is 'ready to be shared' is insulting. Unless you have > lawyers pointing metaophorical guns at your job, in which case just > say that. Good

[9fans] p9p mk(1) syntax

2013-09-06 Thread dexen deVries
in p9p mk, this works as expected: foo = `{echo bar} but the following does not -- rc(1) indicates syntax error: foo = `{echo `{echo bar}} strace indicates that mk(1) passes input to rc(1) with no closing braces at all. i'm using MKSHELL = rc. -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]]

Re: [9fans] p9p on Retina Macs

2013-09-06 Thread James A. Robinson
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > The lack of on-the-fly font resizing is a continual source of pain for me > (I end up having to restart acme a lot), and at some point I will finish > it. Ideally I want to get to the point where devdrawretina=1 acme (no other > arguments) just wo

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread hiro
It would be better if you guys keep it low here on the mailing list or else the people that got tricked into funding this might find out.

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
On Sep 6, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> tl;dr: as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on, > > Aha, the fact that you don't know proves that it's private. ☺ As are most the files I open in my editor, until at some point I do a Put and other

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Richard Miller
> tl;dr: as far as i know, there is no private nix development going on, Aha, the fact that you don't know proves that it's private. ☺