Re: [9fans] request for more GSoC project suggestions

2009-03-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/25 Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.com: [snip] As for applications for Plan 9, the ones we need (read to cope with the rest of the world) are too big for a soc project, so even if I don't like gcc, a port would help on this matter. Yes and no. As long as there are reasonable

Re: [9fans] GSOC: Drawterm for the iPhone

2009-03-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/25 andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com: there are a couple of other problems that I see with dt on the iPhone: - platform: google may be much more interested in seeing apps for the G-phone than they are for the rival (but then, a g-phone version may be much easier to do, and not

Re: [9fans] request for more GSoC project suggestions

2009-03-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
I'd like to note again that I was kidding about cfront _ 2009/3/25 Paul Lalonde plalo...@telus.net: A cfront-ish approach to templates leads to hellish duplication of template-generated code in each module, and thence to even worse code bloat.  Of course, my understanding of what's possible in

Re: [9fans] request for more GSoC project suggestions

2009-03-25 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/25 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com: On Wed Mar 25 19:22:23 EDT 2009, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: Another student I spoke to on IRC spoke of the possibility of bootstrapping LLVM for Plan 9 on Linux and getting it to run natively. That would give us a whole bunch of different

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Routers?

2009-03-24 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/24 Rahul Murmuria rahul.is.a...@gmail.com: I was poking around for what it would take to get there. I found this[1]. I am basically looking to have a way to do routing using Plan 9. You can already do that on any standard Linux using Quagga[2] based on GNU Zebra. Maybe there is a

Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-20 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/20 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:52 PM, James Tomaschke ja...@orcasystems.com wrote: I would suggest the compiler as well, students are probably more familiar with compiler concepts and it will probably be easier to mentor.  In the future, the porting work

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2009

2009-03-05 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/4 Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com: So, the web site's up, program is announced, and so on. Was anyone planning on doing a Plan 9 application? I'm willing to help, if anyone was planning on it, or lead, if not. In the later case, I'd appreciate help (any of advice, materials, or labor)

Re: [9fans] threads vs forks

2009-03-03 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/3/3 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com: Concurrency seems to be one of those things that's too hard for everyone, and I don't buy it. There's no reason it needs to be as hard as it is. That's a fact. If you have access to The ACM Queue, check out p16-cantrill-concurrency.pdf (Cantrill and

Re: [9fans] Venti by another name

2009-02-14 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
On this note, Marco Peereboom has been working on epitome: http://www.peereboom.us/epitome --dho

Re: [9fans] 9vx and native networking

2009-02-11 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/2/11 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: On Wed Feb 11 07:27:47 EST 2009, ano...@gmail.com wrote: Devon got this working for him about a month and a half ago; see this message: http://9fans.net/archive/2008/12/501 I've still not made it work for me (on OS X), but i think the issues

Re: [9fans] Web interface to '/n/sources/contrib' gone??

2009-02-10 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
All parody aside, Bruce, the service did exist at one point, and it existed because it was useful to enough people for the labs to make it and set it up. It's been available for several years. Hiccups aside, it's a bummer that it's down for so long. At this point, I'd think it would be obvious

Re: [9fans] Web interface to '/n/sources/contrib' gone??

2009-02-10 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/2/10 Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com: I just hate all the non-technical whining on here. Agreed Can someone look into the web interface? would have worked. Agreed brucee -dho

Re: [9fans] Flash Video

2009-02-04 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/2/3 Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com: the original question was about flash video. many here seem to have interesting ideas, but obviously not motivated enough to want to plan/research/read/understand. two clues: mpeg4 and rtp I think you mean RTMP. There are a couple of open RTMP

Re: [9fans] Flash Video

2009-02-02 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/2/2 Akshat Kumar aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net: 2009/2/2 Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com: it might require a c-section. might want to start with VLC or ffmpeg. My aim was just to get 9fans talking about it. Hence, the pushing. But yes, what information can you provide about either

Re: [9fans] 9vx as a cpu server?

2009-02-01 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2009/2/1 Mathieu lejat...@gmail.com: As I naively see it, the two main problems are: 1) to have 9vx running a cpu server kernel instead of a stand alone terminal one (I don't even know if that's the case actually). i think there would be a little work in getting this going. Ok, so it's

[9fans] Cheap Native Plan9 ARM board?

2008-12-23 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hey guys, This was in my gmail ads this morning: http://www.glomationinc.com/ SBC ARM, 200MHz w/MMU, 32MB RAM, 128MB flash, Ethernet, Watchdog, RTC. Optional WiFi module over USB. $49 -- but that says `quantity' price. I don't know what it is at low quantity. I'll email. (Ok, I got the email. At

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/22 Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu: Hi, The contrib index mentions that daily changelogs for Plan 9 are in sources/extra/changes, but those haven't been updated since early 2007. Is there any preferred way to get changelogs / diffs these days? I used to maintain the changelogs,

Re: [9fans] 9vx wrong up? or wrong pgrp?

2008-12-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/22 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: sorry to reply to myself, but the up in the kernel belongs to an *io*, not the calling process. That's weird, the up in the kernel that I was seeing belonged to *init*. If you go further down into: walk error 2: does not exist You will see the

[9fans] Native TCP/IP stack in 9vx working

2008-12-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hey everyone, Over the past few days, Erik Quanstrom has been helping debug issues with the native IP stack in 9vx. He figured out some crazy issues with gcc wanting to return negative values for signed modulo comparisons -- this combined with a stupid oversight has got IP working. Erik says he's

Re: [9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-19 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Meh, I keep forgetting to hit reply-all or something. 2008/12/19 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: That's where I was looking initially -- it looks like that's all only done when you're connecting to a venti, and it seems like it definitely happens after the links run anyway. Links happen

Re: [9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-18 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
The link routines happen very early, before any user code has run. /lib/namespace is processed by user code. So when the links are running, I think it is simply that there is nothing bound to /net. Russ Thank you... I think I see the issue now. I'm also enjoying: 245

Re: [9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-18 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/18 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: Thank you... I think I see the issue now. I'm also enjoying: 245 /* set up the network so we can talk to the venti server */ 246 /* this is such a crock. */ Yes, yes it is... --dho we would

Re: [9fans] devtrace release time

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/17 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't know the amd64 kernel doesn't live in /sys/src/9/pc/. OK, I am only responding to this because of the incorrect impressions being left by these kinds of comments. The backport

[9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hey guys, Back in my ``let's have fun with Plan 9'' yearly phase. Here I come back and I see some really cool work. 9vx definitely is the coolest thing I've seen so far, and devtrace looks pretty nifty too. What's really cool to me about them is that they're available and there is open work to

Re: [9fans] 9vx Patches

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/17 Roman Shaposhnik r...@sun.com: On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: * Automatic provisioning via a web browser. Yeah, Plan 9 in the web browser (if you have Java, I guess -- otherwise it's just VNC). http://testbed.dh0.us/ -- this code isn't version controlled, but I

[9fans] Help with device and clone?

2008-12-17 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
I really am getting to the deep guts of dev.c and chan.c here in debugging why when ip/ipconfig tries to open /net/ether0/clone, it's getting Enotfound. From my latest commit: Fix some stuff with the ether controller attaching. It attaches now, but for some reason clone screws up. I have no idea

Re: [9fans] Wireless cards

2008-12-15 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/15 theotherji...@gmail.com: Hello, I was wondering if Plan 9 supports wireless Ethernet in its current state. If it does (and I just can't find it), could you please give me a link to follow. If it does not, I guess I will just begin to analyze my current wireless driver (for Linux)

Re: [9fans] 9vx on x86-64

2008-12-11 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/11 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:04 AM, simplicity plan9assemb...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 9, 6:45 pm, r...@swtch.com (Russ Cox) wrote: 9vx now builds and runs on Ubuntu Linux x86-64, and hopefully other Linuxes as well. It also runs gs and ape/psh correctly. I

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