Re: [9fans] music storage

2013-12-09 Thread Steve Simon
Sorry everyone, I should have caught up with the thread before replying. Its late and I should go to bed. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status)

2013-12-02 Thread Steve Simon
executables seemed a huge plus - I use windows less these days but it would still be handy on ocasion. -Steve

[9fans] compiler bug?

2013-11-27 Thread Steve Simon
my lack of knowledge of the C standard... anyone any thoughts? -Steve#include u.h #include libc.h static uint getdword_n(void *mem, int n) { STATIC uint tmp = 0; switch (n) { case 3: ((uchar*)tmp)[1] = ((uchar*)mem)[2]; case 2: ((uchar*)tmp)[2] = ((uchar*)mem

Re: [9fans] compiler bug?

2013-11-27 Thread Steve Simon
this code is not correct. it breaks the anti-aliasing rules. Yep, I see. Its pretty crufty code, the original had #ifdefs for big and little endian. I will see if I can push some nicer code fix upstream. Thanks for the analysis. -Steve

Re: [9fans] arm httpd

2013-11-17 Thread Steve Simon
Don't know if this helps at all but I did an arm build a few weeks ago and its all working fine. -Steve

[9fans] (no subject)

2013-11-17 Thread Steve Simon
. This worked well for us but perhaps is naive? Thoughts anyone? -Steve

[9fans] ac97 and speed-v-rate

2013-11-14 Thread Steve Simon
' and expect it to be writtent to /dev/volume. Anyone any strong views on this? The name and file is hard coded into mp3dec and I am using it elsewhere so common naming would be a Good Thing™ -Steve

[9fans] abaco and google links

2013-11-08 Thread Steve Simon
Abaco can nolonger follow googles links as they now redirect through googles own servers so they can help you. anyone fixed abaco to follow such links? -Steve

Re: [9fans] abaco and google links

2013-11-08 Thread Steve Simon
works just fine on 9front I sould have guessed :-) I will look at the diffs. -Steve

[9fans] ipsec

2013-10-29 Thread Steve Simon
I asked about the linux app VPNC a few days ago, however plan9 already has an IPsec implementation, it would need (at least) l2tp to speak Windows VPN and maybe xauth as well (I haven't done much research yet). Anyone used ipsec and have some example code? Anyone tried anything similar? -Steve

[9fans] vpnc

2013-10-25 Thread Steve Simon
on a factotum interface... too many projects as ever. -Steve

[9fans] debug prints leaking int sources (sam(1))

2013-10-23 Thread Steve Simon
/plan9.c loadflist: /sys/src/cmd/sam/plan9.c fixname: /sys/src/cmd/sam/plan9.c fixname: /sys/src/cmd/sam/plan9.c -Steve

[9fans] 5l compilation

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Simon
am I missing? -Steve

Re: [9fans] nile, a rio derivative

2013-10-17 Thread Steve Simon
like the idea of swicthing to noscroll automagiclly by scrolling up. The one I still occasionally miss is 9term's look option which I used to use before I had real plan9 :-) -Steve

[9fans] Brdline and the last line

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Simon
on the filesystem I just fix them, but I am wrapping Brdline around a tcp connection so I am not in control of how people terminate their files... -Steve

[9fans] arduino and plan9

2013-09-11 Thread Steve Simon
pi and plan9 is overkill. -Steve

[9fans] 10th ed

2013-09-08 Thread Steve Simon
be amusing to compare techniques, other than that plan9 has more than enough to keep me occupied. ldapfs anyone (one I never started but always meant to). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

2013-09-06 Thread Steve Simon
work. Don't get me wrong, I am all for sharing code but its to authors right to decide not to share if they wish. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Australian User Groups

2013-09-01 Thread steve
there was an active group at the university of sydney, and an inactive one at unsw (me). there was a guy on irc a year or two ago who had inherited the cd worm jutebox from bassar at u-syd but i havent spoken to him for a year or two... -Steve On 1 Sep 2013, at 10:00, Shane Morris edgecombe

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-30 Thread Steve Simon
or or was it CP/M, but then again it might have been RSTS-11... -Steve

Re: [9fans] p9p export or equivalent

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Simon
Short of setting up that 800lb gorilla known as NFS and using Plan 9's nfs client, how might one share files on a *nux system with Plan 9? I use sftpfs from contrib, this needs nothing other than ssh on the linux box. I used this all day every day and it has been rock solid. -Steve

Re: [9fans] p9p export or equivalent

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Simon
Good to know, BTW, if you get any problems with cifs and I may get time to sort it out. I also gave an smb2 client on my list but the complications of the auth it seems to require have halted progress. -Steve

Re: [9fans] mallocz in APE

2013-07-18 Thread Steve Simon
know but somone put a lot of effort into adding _MALLOCZ() and all the other internal funcs it seems a pity to not do the same with setmalloctag() and getcallerpc(). its not a major issue, probably OCD on my part. -Steve

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Steve McCoy
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:18:09 PM UTC-4, Rob Pike wrote: I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use 2-d input devices. -rob This is actually how I've worked on my MacBook for a while, so you're

[9fans] USB UK keyboard problem, correct fix?

2013-06-17 Thread Steve Simon
: http://9fans.net/archive/2013/04/368 I could do a similar hack but has anyone any feelings for how this should be fixed properly? -Steve

Re: [9fans] plumb rule for include files in different directories

2013-06-11 Thread Steve Simon
to use cmake which always uses absolute paths) into plan9 relative paths so they can be plumbed. e.g. /home/steve/work/xxx/yyy/fred.cpp gets rewritten as /n/linux/home/steve/work/xxx/yyy/fred.cpp I also use conswdir(1) and a cd function in rc (on linux) to ensure my plan9 /dev/wdir

Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-05 Thread Steve Simon
or mirrored SATA-3 Enterprise disks; It draws about 25W. You probably cannot buy these any more but I am sure there is somthing similar now. I thought must new Atom MBs didn't need fans due to newer technology chipsets? -Steve

[9fans] SSE in a note handler

2013-06-03 Thread Steve Simon
side. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-03 Thread Steve Simon
', but these are still only subjective measures. In the end we have to fall back on 'it works for me' done we? -Steve

Re: [9fans] ssh to osx

2013-05-29 Thread Steve Simon
back-ported to posix - you are welcome to these if you want them. -Steve

Re: [9fans] ssh to osx

2013-05-26 Thread steve
am sure you will too. perhaps you will be more through than i was and add a wiki entry when you work it out. -Steve On 26 May 2013, at 12:25, arisawa aris...@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote: Hello, thanks to geoff and others, we can now connect to linux using ssh in official distribution from bell

Re: [9fans] cwfs64x+cryptsetup+mirror?

2013-05-23 Thread Steve Simon
/root/rc/bin/contrib/install fgb/contrib then look at the manual for contrib(1) for more info. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Go 386

2013-05-23 Thread Steve Simon
. -Steve

[9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-03 Thread Steve Simon
Thinking of tackeling ghostscript again but failed at the first hurdle, it needs autotools to build... Anyone attempted this? -Steve

[9fans] anyone put their venti on an SSD?

2013-05-03 Thread Steve Simon
what the subject says, anyone put their venti (those that use it) on a solid state disk? -Steve

Re: [9fans] anyone attempted to build ghostscript recently?

2013-05-03 Thread Steve Simon
ghostscript under linuxemu which works but I I would prefer to have a working native port. I will try again. -Steve

Re: [9fans] [GSOC 2013] Implement plan9 commands in Go, Goblin

2013-04-30 Thread Steve Simon
) which opens an rc(1) shell on windows via an nt service - listen(1). This allows me to use the cross compilers there I need for work. Anyone wants any/all of this give me a shout. -Steve

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread steve
thats a real shame. its a pity when politics gets in the way of education - I assume this is the problem, i apologise if not. -Steve On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:37, lamg gort.andres...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate, anyway I will upload

Re: [9fans] mount p9 sources in p9p

2013-04-21 Thread Steve Simon
this ensuring that '.' is not at the start of your path will help (if you are cd'ing to /n/sources), otherwise you lose several roundtrips whilst rc(1) discovers there is no ls(1) in the currect (remote) directory. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on laptops/netbooks

2013-04-02 Thread Steve Simon
For the supported hardware list, I use the 9front broadcom driver with a vid/did = 14e4/1696 Broadcom BCM5782 Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet -Steve

Re: [9fans] mk and transitive dependencies (was: gcc not an option for Plan9)

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Simon
, and for autotools code, it also understands some of that packages foibles. -Steve

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

2013-03-24 Thread Steve Simon
could be moved into a go-specific OS - would that even be a good/interesting idea? -Steve

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

2013-03-23 Thread Steve Simon
I wonder if the new gcc will be written in cfront compatible c++ - that would work... ☺ -Steve

Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS

2013-03-20 Thread Steve McCoy
On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 4:56:42 AM UTC-4, Alexander Sychev wrote: I'm sure your 'Mail' is not plan9port's Mail. Type 'type Mail' and you will find something like 'Mail is /usr/bin/Mail' You should set a path to plan9port binares before $PATH or start Mail via '9 Mail' This is

Re: [9fans] Acme/Mail with plan9ports in Mac OS

2013-03-20 Thread Steve McCoy
On Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:42:14 AM UTC-4, Steve McCoy wrote: … I don't know who that Dennis guy is, or why his info got added to my email. Could this be a side effect of using Google groups to reply? [ Moderators note: Apologies. The comp.os.plan9 is a moderated Newsgroup

Re: [9fans] [RQ]: plan9 native 1920x1200 VGA recommendation

2013-03-18 Thread Steve Simon
having (IMHO). -Steve

[9fans] X11

2013-02-28 Thread Steve Simon
and exits() in native plan9. Personally I think falling of the end of a function is a bug and should be fixed, but perhaps it should just be a warning rather than an error to make building foreign code simpler. -Steve

Re: [9fans] X11

2013-02-28 Thread Steve Simon
What does kenc do with a void function attempting to return 0? t.c:6 incompatible types: VOID and INT for op RETURN -Steve

[9fans] MS office XML to txt/troff

2013-02-26 Thread Steve Simon
. code in /n/sources/contrib/steve/opc.tgz and depends on /n/sources/contrib/steve/libxml.tgz fixes and extensions greatfully received. please don't reformat the code without contacting me first. -Steve

Re: [9fans] arcnet

2013-02-21 Thread Steve Simon
wiring for control systems, and there is no single point of failure. -Steve

Re: [9fans] c compiler bug

2013-02-21 Thread steve
no, but drawterm will (i believe). On 21 Feb 2013, at 20:27, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: Can I run it on my iPhone? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:58 AM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: good day. is this the p9p on osx help forum?

Re: [9fans] arcnet

2013-02-21 Thread steve
On 21 Feb 2013, at 17:36, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Not sure what you mean, but we run arcnet in bus mode (no central hub), on 75 ohm coax with modified PCI cards using 75ohm terminations - 75ohm coax abounds in TV stations. The cost of maintaining such a system must look prohibitive

[9fans] arcnet

2013-02-20 Thread steve
just a straw poll, anyone here use arcnet or know of any significant modern use, my employer uses it for data comms in TV stations, but this is becoming superseded by ethernet these days, are we the last bastion? -Steve

[9fans] p9p stats

2013-02-11 Thread Steve Simon
Anyone already ported (back ported?) p9p's stats to plan9? I want to see stats of plan9 and linux boxen on my plan9 desktop. -Steve

Re: [9fans] 3e

2013-02-10 Thread Steve Simon
had any have disappeared. Sorry for the noise. -Steve

Re: [9fans] meet native port of rdesktop 1.6

2013-02-08 Thread Steve Simon
Fantastic work! This is going to be really useful (to me). -Steve

Re: [9fans] 9pi + apple keyboard

2013-01-24 Thread Steve Simon
hugo% history -D -d sourcesdump /n/sources/plan9/sys/src/cmd/mkfile ... Feb 15 14:05:48 GMT 2005 /n/sourcesdump/2006/0321/plan9/sys/src/cmd/mkfile 2414 [jmk] 11c11 BUGGERED=gc|lmlvideo|dwb|unix|perl|celp|mosml|ovac|vfs|aviation|tex ---

[9fans] bad in naddr

2013-01-22 Thread Steve Simon
trying to get svn to build natively on plan9 and I am getting an error from 8c which I don't know, e.g.: bad in naddr: NAME cache_init_state+0(SB) Can anyone explain this to me? Thanks, -Steve

Re: [9fans] bad in naddr

2013-01-22 Thread Steve Simon
looks like you need the address of something that hasn't got one. for example for indirection, array indexing, etc. Ah, yes, taking the address of a volatile is a no-no it seems. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Fwd:

2013-01-15 Thread steve
oh, that's easy, you just need to use the -v option to cat... On 15 Jan 2013, at 20:04, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:39:02PM -0500, Stephen Wiley wrote: Page can render images. Inline images are for pomp aristocrats with lots of spare bandwidth laying

Re: [9fans] u.h ape

2013-01-11 Thread Steve Simon
/sys/include/ape/u.h I have a distant memory that this was a result of Andrey and Presotto's work to get links to build and run on plan9. -Steve

Re: [9fans] 9atom-nix

2013-01-09 Thread Steve Simon
by this hardware. Could save a lot of time messing about with the wrong kernel. just my 2cents worth. -Steve

Re: [9fans] these are release of 9front?

2013-01-08 Thread steve
will think such a thing would be useful. just idle thoughts from my sick bed. -Steve On 8 Jan 2013, at 11:24, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: Since there are a lot of code flow between 9front and 9atom (even sources, however that's mostly one directional) I would argue that having

[9fans] jira

2013-01-08 Thread Steve Simon
Any 9fans use jira or is it just me? FWIW I am working on a client. -Steve

[9fans] file server design documentation

2012-12-21 Thread steve
that you want to pass control back to the parent filesystem. -Steve

Re: [9fans] drawterm for osx 10.8 (update)

2012-12-11 Thread steve
there is some of a port of plan9 to the g4 imac, done by David eachart (sp?) and his students. i believe it stalled when the intel macs where announced, however you could probably try to re-awaken it... check the Ports page of the wiki. -steve On 11 Dec 2012, at 09:36, Luke Evans luke.ev

Re: [9fans] pound symbol for troff

2012-11-26 Thread steve
sorry, the code on sources is old, i have done much better since, it was waiting for a manpage before release... i will put new code upwhen i get to work. steve On 27 Nov 2012, at 02:43, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Nov 26 21:43:47 EST 2012, quans...@quanstro.net wrote

Re: [9fans] go forth and ulong no more!

2012-11-22 Thread Steve Simon
will pipe up and explain why its a very good idea, but it still annoys me. -Steve

[9fans] 8c - is this leagal?

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Simon
- compilers are a closed book to me. -Steve

Re: [9fans] 8c - is this leagal?

2012-11-21 Thread Steve Simon
43944 subversion 343690 Total 428535 and for context: /sys/src/9 107216 -Steve

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Steve Simon
better solution. Its the sam reason I use plan9 and not Windows/Linux/OSX etc. its a backhanded compliment to the Go authors that I must not look at their work (yet). -Steve

[9fans] c++

2012-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
to class member variables (which looks horrid to me but I am willing to learn), and smart locks (mutexs which unlock on destruct). Thanks for any suggestions. -Steve

[9fans] Apache portable runtime

2012-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
Somone was working on a port of the apache portable runtime a while back but I have lost their email. could they contact me please? Thanks, -Steve

[9fans] tabstops

2012-11-16 Thread Steve Simon
painful. anyone hacked sam to replace tabs with spaces or found a similar workaround? I know this is horrid but what can I do, I am outnumbered (as usual). -Steve

Re: [9fans] Kernel panic when allocating a huge memory

2012-11-03 Thread Steve Simon
- Dan C. Glad to see you survived the storm Dan. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Kernel panic when compiling Go on native Plan 9

2012-11-02 Thread steve
but make it quite a bit slower. -Steve On 2 Nov 2012, at 14:00, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Fri Nov 2 09:44:43 EDT 2012, pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote: How much memory does your system have? - 512 MB RAM - 512 MB swap Changeset 14739 grew the Unicode collation

[9fans] pound symbol for troff

2012-11-01 Thread Steve Simon
Never having fiddled with troff's font tables anyone care to give me a quick tutorial on how to add missing characters, the one I need at present is 0x00a3 = '£' = UK pound symbol. Thanks, -Steve

[9fans] tbl fixes

2012-10-16 Thread steve
i seem to remember that someone (erik?) fixed a bug in tbl which is causing it to misalign the edges of the boxes it draws around tables. i looked in the archives but cannot see it, anyone any ideas? steve

[9fans] Brdline() and continuation lines

2012-09-19 Thread Steve Simon
this, I just feel like I am missing a trick, and there is elegant solution. -Steve

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-13 Thread Steve Simon
now that you mention it, vt is missing the flyback transformer whine. you should be able to *hear* what's displayed. perhaps it is there an you are no-longer able to hear it? :-) I can no longer hear line rate in the UK (15.625kHz). -Steve

[9fans] new accessory

2012-08-21 Thread steve
a new must-have accessory for all on this list http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=170898717500 -Steve

[9fans] sam command language question

2012-08-20 Thread Steve Simon
be easy... -Steve

Re: [9fans] sam command language question

2012-08-20 Thread Steve Simon
- label=Hello (i.e. unchanged) label=Hello world and other planets - label=Hello World And Other Planets -Steve

Re: [9fans] Hosted Inferno on Raspberry Pi

2012-08-03 Thread Steve Simon
I've got HDMI video working in Plan 9 too Plan9 runs on the rasberry-PI? -Steve

Re: [9fans] 8c and elf shared libraries

2012-07-18 Thread steve
library to the linux application being started (by linuxemu). i am just trying to avoid shipping a binary with the linuxemu source, or requiring the end user has a running linux system to bootstrap linuxemu - however this amy be unavoidable. -Steve

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Steve Simon
don't forget jeff's pic controllers. perhaps I have forgotten, perhaps I missed them link please ? -Steve

Re: [9fans] 8c and elf shared libraries

2012-07-17 Thread Steve Simon
library in question is the linux vdso systemcall interface and its tiny (three entry points from memory), its just a shame that I have been unable to come up with an clean way of generating the file on plan9. -Steve

[9fans] 8c and elf shared libraries

2012-07-11 Thread Steve Simon
Various projects have worked on 8c to make it generate code for other OSs, have any of these resulted in code that could generate a very _very_ simple ELF shared library sutiable for linux? -Steve

Re: [9fans] troff pm and dlink postprocessors

2012-06-25 Thread Steve Simon
source: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/steve/root/sys/src/cmd/pm binary, via cfront: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/steve/root/386/bin/aux/pm -Steve

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox - Clone

2012-05-31 Thread steve
on undo or redo. i occasionally want to undo a little of the changes i have made, but if these are not in the current view its not easy to judge how many steps to undo. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Fedex command

2012-05-31 Thread steve
no further than a thought experiment due to work pessures, and recent family pressures (twins born last week) could also slow progress... -Steve On 31 May 2012, at 07:23 PM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: The published APIs didn't seem to lend themselves to a simple screen-scrape. Well

[9fans] malloc

2012-05-21 Thread steve
i posted before i got to the end of the thad, i apologise for the noise. -Steve

Re: [9fans] /tmp dissappearance

2012-05-20 Thread steve
a simpler way might be to: mount -c /srv/fossil /n/fossil mkdir /n/fossil/tmp always assuming you are using fossil and you have write permission in / which probably means you must be hostowner. -Steve On 20 May 2012, at 07:04 PM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: On May 20, 2012

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

2012-05-19 Thread Steve Simon
I think frail is a mischaracterization. Indeed, upas has been my only mail interface for about 7 years, without a glitch, though I have recently bought an ipad - but that connects via imap to plan9 too. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

2012-05-14 Thread Steve Simon
I thought we were an autonomous collective. Yes, but somhow a Gang of four sounds so much more exciting. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-09 Thread steve
in support of sam, i use it and always have, i never got to the point with acme that it felt worth the effort of changing. sam is not an an introductory editor, its an alternative. the one place where i do use acme is the wiki, there is no sam wiki interface... unless you know different? On 9

Re: [9fans] integer width on AMD64 (was: Re: AMD64 system)

2012-05-07 Thread steve
is due to the reduction in the rate of cache line refills, as forsyth described. -Steve On 6 May 2012, at 12:43 PM, Comeau At9Fans comeauat9f...@gmail.com wrote: I've heard that 64-bit is not an immediate win over 32 for graphics and such, but then again also heard that 32 bit is not the pits

Re: [9fans] integer width on AMD64 (was: Re: AMD64 system)

2012-05-06 Thread steve
i think this is an often misunderstood fact, 32bit ints are, in my experience, a significant win compared with 64bit when doing memory intensive work - image processing in my case. -Steve On 5 May 2012, at 06:48 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com . if it's performance you're

Re: [9fans] u9fs rhosts auth

2012-04-30 Thread steve
i use u9fs but with ssh and from inetd, never rhosts. On 29 Apr 2012, at 11:05 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: A quick poll: Are any of you using rhosts authentication with u9fs, or do you know of anyone that actively uses it?

Re: [9fans] Google command line client

2012-03-29 Thread steve
cinap produced a smaller faster webfs for use with abaco and my webdav fs, it has persistant tcp sessions so is much faster, and it also has some auth code from me that works rather better than the labs code. highly reccomended. On 29 Mar 2012, at 10:36 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote:

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