Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread vester . thacker
No need for a DeLorean, Eli. This fits perfectly on a CD-ROM. ;-) https://tip9ug.jp/download/Plan_9_4th_Edition.2004.iso With the right hardware, it still works great. It might not be as forgiving as 9front or 9legacy, but it's still enjoyable to use. The best part is having a clean slate, with

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread vester . thacker
@Creaper Host Automations, that’s pretty funny! I appreciate the humor. If I were, I'd probably be running a version from 2006 on some very old hardware I’m still working with. Honestly, I'd love to put all of this drama behind me. It really has become pointless to engage the community at this p

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread vester . thacker
It's understandable to feel frustrated and make mistakes when dealing with online harassment. I'm currently experiencing ongoing harassment and stalking from certain individuals here. If I knew their real names, I would consider taking legal action to address both their online and offline behavi

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread vester . thacker
Oh, bother. That’s not the best way to verify that I’m human, but Rob could confirm it. He invited me to Google’s R&D opening event in Tokyo in 2004. His invitation, extended to me and a few other Plan 9 users, wasn’t public knowledge and wouldn’t be accessible to a language model. At the event,

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-06 Thread vester . thacker
Hey Pixelherodev, g-w1, and anyone else inclined to harass—let’s be clear: I’m human. Accusing me of being a bot without meaningful discussion is discrediting and ostracizing. This behavior only fosters division. If we’re here to share knowledge, let’s do it with respect. Harassment has no place

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-05 Thread vester . thacker
Listen here, some of you are puffed up and too full of yourselves. First, you tell me to strip out the comments that explain things, then come back whining that I didn’t explain enough. Who needs that kind of two-faced treatment? This is supposed to be an open-source project—a place where folks

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
I'm relieved this mailing list focuses on Plan 9, not 9front, since I don't use 9front. I submitted two patches today—no armchair engineers around here. Besides ranting, move beyond it. Let it rest. - Vic On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, at 14:45, Willow Liquorice wrote: > This just in from #cat-v on oftc

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
On Fri, Oct 4, 2024, at 11:25, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/ Thank you. This looks promising, however two things have changed since the time that was written. 1. std.Build has been renamed to std.build.Builder, which reflects Zig's ongoing development and refac

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
I agree with Willow. Zig would make an excellent addition to Plan 9. If it were available, I'd certainly adopt it. I suspect it would also draw in a new crowd, bringing fresh perspectives to the community. - Vic -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.t

Re: [9fans] V Programming Language (vlang)

2024-10-03 Thread vester . thacker
ThePrimeagen has put together a couple of solid videos on Vlang, blending entertainment with valuable insights. 1. In this reaction video, he dives into Vlang with his signature mix of humor and curiosity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j47Hk5qE9As&list=PL6Vr-1-zVu5CUQOoZa-3BYYbYJ1CGlpRH For a

Re: [9fans] Pi Zero - Ethernet?

2024-08-08 Thread vester . thacker
On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, at 21:27, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > All I ask (as well as others) is to be up front with LLM answers. Note: I'm > not making accusations here, just a general statement. > > There's been far too much discourse here which is eroding the trust and > quality of the list. I ask th

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-17 Thread vester . thacker
On Sat, May 18, 2024, at 00:51, Kurt H Maier wrote: > I love this article very much. Unhelpful, bossy blowhards should > experience exactly these emotions. My favorite part was the accusation > of "cancel culture," which I have learned is Boomer code for > "accountability." They really hate that

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-17 Thread vester . thacker
On Sat, May 18, 2024, at 01:26, Noam Preil wrote: > The only company listed there is yours, no? > > That's not a good look. On a long enough timeline, it will not matter. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tad3dc0c93039a7d

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-17 Thread vester . thacker
e > type of behavior that is defended (and therefore encouraged) I am > not interested at all. > > I'll be around on this list to argue against the misinformation > campaigns, it is clear that if we were to go away this type of > misinformation > would run rampant. I really ex

Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-15 Thread vester . thacker
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 22:18, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > Fromm Crunchbase: > > Nantahala Outdoor Center — Nantahala Outdoor Center is a sports company > offering whitewater rafting, mountain biking, and flatwater paddling. > > Nantahala Bank & Trust Company — Nantahala Bank & Trust Company is a >

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-12 Thread vester . thacker
The complexity of communication in this medium often necessitates detailed discussions. You highlighted the need for additional personnel to manage the workload (e.g. do the work). From my perspective, this requires a well-defined vision, clear objectives, and a prioritized list of deliverable

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-12 Thread vester . thacker
Thank you, Hiro, for your insights. I apologize to everyone for my intense and fervent approach; I acknowledge that I often overlook subtleties. To add a bit of humor, even my son has saved my contact as "Rambo" in his mobile phone. :-) Vic On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 00:55, hiro wrote: > this i

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-12 Thread vester . thacker
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I want to clarify that my intention is not to exert control or disrupt, but to foster better collaboration between communities. I understand that there may be concerns about redundancy and approaches, which is why I believe a dialogue about our common goals

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-12 Thread vester . thacker
Why the fear about collaborating? Wouldn't greater 9legacy and 9front collaboration be something good for the Plan 9 community? Vic On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 20:53, hiro wrote: >> How can we ensure that everyone feels valued and heard? > > easy. stop spamming LLM garbage and start contributi

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-08 Thread vester . thacker
Dear Members of the 9legacy and 9front Communities, This message is intended to share thoughts on potential improvements to collaborative processes between systems. The aim is to foster an environment that encourages ongoing enhancement and mutual support. Community Efforts Appreciation is exte