Re: [9fans] 9grid again

2015-12-21 Thread arisawa
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[9fans] 9grid again

2015-11-11 Thread arisawa
hello, I am considering a new project that is related to big data. assume we have data on several distributed server. current common approach is: downloading these data from servers to local side and process them. however data is big but program is small. if the data is 1GB order, this approach i

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-24 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Oct 24 03:32:07 EDT 2012, al...@pbrane.org wrote: > John Floren once said: > > Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark > > against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get > > failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Martin
John Floren once said: > Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark > against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get > failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the # > of concurrent connections IIRC. What happens when it fai

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Bakul Shah
If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;) On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:42:48 PDT "Don A. Bailey" wrote: > If only Joseph Campbell were around to accurately define this lot. I think > he'd get a bigger kick out of 9fans than he did the Grateful Dead. Well, > maybe n

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:29:19PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: > Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the > twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will > always persist. Unlike your desire to look at code? Why have you suddenly begun as

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
If only Joseph Campbell were around to accurately define this lot. I think he'd get a bigger kick out of 9fans than he did the Grateful Dead. Well, maybe not. But close, I'm sure. D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012, d...@capitolhillconsulta

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012, d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote: > Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the > twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will > always persist. biologists call it an ecological niche. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark > against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get > failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the # > of concurrent connections IIRC. > > I'd post the code for the server I wrote, bu

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will always persist. <3 D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:54PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: > > If I w

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:54PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: > If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;) > > D Thanks for letting us know, D. The Right Reverend Kurt H. Maier, Esq. Daughter of the Fifth House of Betazed Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx Heir to the Hol

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Thankfully, we are very well versed at tuning the Plan 9 kernel. I'll take your advice and develop the benchmark. Is your code concealed per work on NxM? Just curious as NxM seems to solve (in what little I know about it) some of the issues we are trying to solve with Go+Plan 9. D On Tue, Oct 23

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Cool, thanks. I appreciate the response. D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Matthew Veety wrote: > On 10/23/2012 8:44 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: > >> Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 >> specific issue? >> >> D >> > > I haven't had any problems with Go on ot

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety wrote: > On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: >> >> Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight >> thread execution? Which packages would you point me at? >> >> Thanks, >> D >> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron m

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;) D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:44:42PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: > > Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 > > specific issue? > > > > D > > D

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:44:42PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: > Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 > specific issue? > > D Dear Don A. "D" Bailey, CEO/Cofounder: You should probably harass the Go people about this. Thank you, Kurt H Maier Grand Poobah/Arch

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Matthew Veety
On 10/23/2012 8:44 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 specific issue? D I haven't had any problems with Go on other platforms (FreeBSD and Mac OS X) except for CPU use sometimes and scheduling of goroutines. Both you can kinda wo

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 specific issue? D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety wrote: > On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: > >> Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight >> thread execution? Which pa

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Matthew Veety
On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight thread execution? Which packages would you point me at? Thanks, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich mailto:rminn...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 P

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight thread execution? Which packages would you point me at? Thanks, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich wrote: > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey > wrote: > > > I'm interested in the code for managing gr

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: > I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks. Real code? talk to charles. Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages. ron

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Don A. Bailey
I only really considered one project to be substantial. That may be unfair. It was the one that LANL/UCal were involved in. I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks. Best, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > That name has referred to at lea

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-23 Thread Anthony Sorace
That name has referred to at least two, possibly three, distinct and unrelated projects. I don't believe any of them are still ongoing. I also don't think any of them were aimed at becoming what i'd call a "production resource". What is it you're looking for?

[9fans] 9grid?

2012-10-22 Thread Don A. Bailey
Is 9grid still around? Has much progress been made on the viability of 9grid as a production resource in the past few years? Lots of the web data is down, so I'd love to hear from anyone using/working on 9grid resources? Thanks, D

[9fans] 9grid information

2012-05-06 Thread Matthew Veety
Is there any more information available for 9grid anywhere on the net? -- Veety

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
thanks a lot eric.. what do you mean with "match"? > > > Hi Eric, (sic) > > I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. > > if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. > > thanks again, > > you need to verify the keys also match. > > - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Nov 17 09:17:49 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Eric, (sic) > I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. > if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. > thanks again, you need to verify the keys also match. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
Hi Eric, I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. thanks again, Armando. > looking in /mnt/factotum/ctl on the console, you should see > keys like these at a minimum > > terminal: > key proto=p9sk1 dom=quanstro.net user=quanstr

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread erik quanstrom
> my /lib/ndb/auth is: >hostid=bootes >uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* > but i just remember that "armando"(user name) is also sys and adm, > could it be the problem for "speaks for"? > because, as i explained above i have "no speaks for" in /sys/log/auth > when i try cpu(1) command from termin

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-17 Thread lupin636
Hi All, my /lib/ndb/auth is: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* but i just remember that "armando"(user name) is also sys and adm, could it be the problem for "speaks for"? because, as i explained above i have "no speaks for" in /sys/log/auth when i try cpu(1) command from terminal, i

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-14 Thread lupin636
Hi Eric, I did every thing you told me, but when i try again: fsname% ndb/query -f /lib/ndb/auth hostid bootes fsname% without no response. do you still have any idea??...because i'm thinkig to take a drill ;-))) thank you very much for your time. Armando > easy fix >         9fs sources

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-14 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Nov 14 04:48:04 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Nov 13, 8:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote: > ... > > cpu -h node -c 'name=`{cat ''#c/sysname''}; echo do something with $name' > > > I added 'role=cpu' to my cpu servers in /lib/ndb/local, now I can do > this > > for

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Hi, > I just did it: >fsname% ndb/query -f /lib/ndb/auth hostid bootes >fsname% > i got no response,only the fs prompt.. > but in /lib/ndb/auth.mio i have the same lines,so: >hostid°otes > uid > dm uid > ?? easy fix 9fs sources && cp /n/sources/plan9/lib/ndb/auth /li

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-14 Thread lupin636
Hi, I just did it: fsname% ndb/query -f /lib/ndb/auth hostid bootes fsname% i got no response,only the fs prompt.. but in /lib/ndb/auth.mio i have the same lines,so: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* ?? thanks guys, Armando > > could it be that the equals sign (=) you typed

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-14 Thread torsbohn
On Nov 13, 8:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote: ... > cpu -h node -c 'name=`{cat ''#c/sysname''}; echo do something with $name' I added 'role=cpu' to my cpu servers in /lib/ndb/local, now I can do this for (node in `{ndb/query -a role cpu sys}) cpu -h $node -c 'name=`{cat ''#c/sy

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> could it be that the equals sign (=) you typed in /lib/ndb/auth is not > the normal equals sign (ascii 3d) but the equal sign of another > encoding? that could be the reason why your /lib/ndb/auth can't be > pasted properly in an email and can't be parsed correctly by > tokenize(). easy test.

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread andrey mirtchovski
could it be that the equals sign (=) you typed in /lib/ndb/auth is not the normal equals sign (ascii 3d) but the equal sign of another encoding? that could be the reason why your /lib/ndb/auth can't be pasted properly in an email and can't be parsed correctly by tokenize().

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread lupin636
Thanks again Eric.. It works, sorry but i'm newbie in shell ;-) About the authentication problem, i checked /sys/log/auth, and i noticed that there are some lines with "no speaks for",like this: fs name nov 13 18:50:09 tr-fail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NODE ip address) -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] no speaks for

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread lupin636
Thanks a lot Eric, I did it and it works, but do you have any idea why i can do it from file server as bootes but not from terminal as armando? Furthermore, i would like to put that line into a variable, by doing (maybe in a wrong way): fs name% cpu -h NODE -c 'name=(equal sign)cat ''#c/sysna

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> I did it and it works, but do you have any idea why i can do it from > file server as bootes but not from terminal as armando? there's probablly something wrong in your authentication setup. > fs name% cpu -h NODE -c 'name=(equal sign)cat ''#c/sysname''; > echo' cpu -h node -c 'name=`{cat

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> if i do this: > cpu -h NODE -c cmd args > How can i be really sure that the command was performed by that node? cpu -c 'cat ''#c/sysname''; echo' - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-13 Thread lupin636
Hi all, I was trying to use cpu(1) command from file server, because from terminal as you see the post above i still have problems.. As cpu(1) command build the name space by running /usr/$user/lib/ profile with root of the invoking name space binding it to /mnt/term, if i do this: cpu -h NODE

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-12 Thread lupin636
I have the same in lib/ndb/auth, i think google doesn't read the equal sign "=" from here, i don't know how you did it.. I don't understand very well what do you mean with "as their root filesystem", but if you mean the bootargs line in the plan9.ini, they have the same bootargs line, otherwise i

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-12 Thread john
> Thanks a lot Ron, it was clearly a really nice response. > You leave in no doubt about using between cpu and ssh. > I would like to try to do it now, but it semms to me that i have > authentication problems from terminal, because when i try to do cpu(1) > command from terminal (log in as Armando)

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-12 Thread lupin636
Thanks a lot Ron, it was clearly a really nice response. You leave in no doubt about using between cpu and ssh. I would like to try to do it now, but it semms to me that i have authentication problems from terminal, because when i try to do cpu(1) command from terminal (log in as Armando) i got not

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the trivial solution on your hardware would be to partition > the pid space, wouldn't it. just have 64bit pids? let each > machine start at a 1<<32 boundary? Sure. But you have to change the pid type in the kernel and

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread erik quanstrom
> It never seemed to. > > But of course if you have procs with same pid, the collisions are obvious. > > So, do the easy thing: > > for all nodes, mount them at > /proc/localhost > /proc/hostname/whatever > > Then modify ps (takes about 5 minutes) so it iterates over /proc/* > where * is a set

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:11 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What if you for whatever reason want a ps to show all the proces on >> all the nodes you're running on. >> >> for (i in $NODES) { >> import -a $i .com /proc /proc >> } > > what's the .com for? > it's when I forgot to ta

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread erik quanstrom
> What if you for whatever reason want a ps to show all the proces on > all the nodes you're running on. > > for (i in $NODES) { > import -a $i .com /proc /proc > } what's the .com for? > Your /proc is now the unified /proc of all your nodes. (I used to do > this all the time with my plan 9 min

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:12 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks john, i would like to send simple programs (jobs) to the nodes > (diskless cpu server) of a 9grid from terminal, and get responses from > them. How can i do it? > suppose you have a list of nodes cpu% NODES=(a b c d) cpu% echo

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread Uriel
How cool! Tell me more Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. uriel On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 9grid is a distributed computing project, which features prominently > the Plan 9 from Bell Labs operating system > > Armando > > On

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread lupin636
9grid is a distributed computing project, which features prominently the Plan 9 from Bell Labs operating system Armando On 11 Nov, 16:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uriel) wrote: > What is a '9grid'? > > uriel

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread Uriel
What is a '9grid'? uriel On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11 Nov, 15:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Ok, i just ran some local commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm >> > gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i >> > wanted to

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread lupin636
On 11 Nov, 15:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ok, i just ran some local  commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm > > gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i > > wanted to see responses , so  i did and got this: > >         cpus# ssh terminal name > >         ssh:

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread john
> Ok, i just ran some local commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm > gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i > wanted to see responses , so i did and got this: > cpus# ssh terminal name > ssh: dialing terminal name: connection refused >

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread lupin636
Ok, i just ran some local commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i wanted to see responses , so i did and got this: cpus# ssh terminal name ssh: dialing terminal name: connection refused cpus# ssh fi

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread erik quanstrom
> Hi Eric, > I check lib/ndb/auth in the file server, this is what i have: > hostid°otes > uid > dm uid i assume poor spelling and cut-n-paste failure. :-) the key thing here is if the only hostid in /lib/ndb/auth is bootes, then the cpu server's hostowner must be bootes. is it?

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread lupin636
Hi Eric, I check lib/ndb/auth in the file server, this is what i have: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* I think that is correct, does it? I'd want to launch a task from terminal (logged as Me) to a node of the 9grid, i was trying with cpu, ssh; because i realize that i don't ne

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-11 Thread lupin636
Thanks Ron, of course cpu doesn't exists on linux...but as you said, it seems that i have to connect to a cpu server, but i would like to launch a task from terminal to cpu server, and after obtain a result from that cpu server,what do i have to do??or what do i have to use?? thanks in advance to

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and > i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway, > the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected > by armando) to a node on the cluster (diskless cpu server), i thought > that cpu com

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-10 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and > i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway, > the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected > by armando) to a node o

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-10 Thread lupin636
I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway, the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected by armando) to a node on the cluster (diskless cpu server), i thought that cpu command was r

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-10 Thread lupin636
Thanks for replaying... Sorry but i got confusion about your replay, i think i don't understand very well I want to make it clear first that the file/auth server are the same pc, and the cpuservers are the nodes of the cluster (5 nodes), which are diskless, and a terminal (my laptop). I'd like to u

Re: [9fans] 9grid

2008-11-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> trying with cpu(1) command, i was doing: > cpu -h fileservername > and the prompt changed from term% to cpu%, and i supposed that was > correct, but when i tried to connect to a cpuserver (all nodes are > diskless) > cpu -h cpuservername > the prompt didn't change, is that correct? before

[9fans] 9grid

2008-11-10 Thread lupin636
Hi All, I'm accomplishing a 9grid, that is composed of a file server, 2 cluster (diskless cpuserver nodes) and a terminal.. I'm trying to connect to a cpuserver (node of 9grid) from a terminal, to launch some tasks, but i don't really know how to do it, i was trying with cpu(1) command, i was doing