Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-19 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Monday 18 June 2001 12:19, Frank Nordberg wrote: > Sorry Steve, your way behind modern times too. Fact is, we already have > perfectly good (or so the ads say) ways to get computers to compose and > play the music without any subjective and emotional human interference > at all. Yeah, seems y

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-18 Thread Steve Mansfield
Richard Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Steve Mansfield wrote: >> >> But at the end of the day if your OS of choice supports the creation of >> ASCII characters in a file you've got all the tools you need to generate >> abc. > >Mmm. But the ability to do something with i

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread John Chambers
Frank Nordberg writes: | John Chambers wrote: | > One of my favorite test cases for music software is the tune at: | > | > http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_D.abc | > http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_E.abc | | Nice one :-) Yeah; it's a pr

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread Richard Robinson
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Steve Mansfield wrote: > > But at the end of the day if your OS of choice supports the creation of > ASCII characters in a file you've got all the tools you need to generate > abc. Mmm. But the ability to do something with it is nice, too. Is this a new wave of fundamental

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread Frank Nordberg
John Chambers wrote: > > One of my favorite test cases for music software is the tune at: > > http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_D.abc > http://ecf-guest.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/Intl/tune/JovanoJovanke_E.abc Nice one :-) I made a quick Finale file out of the first o

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Sunday 17 June 2001 14:19, Steve Mansfield wrote: > Atte André Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > >On Friday 15 June 2001 11:20, Phil Taylor wrote: > >> I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the > >> grounds that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard f

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread John Chambers
Atte writes: | On Friday 15 June 2001 11:20, Phil Taylor wrote: | > I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the grounds | > that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard for music | > production | | I didn't know BarFly ran on Linux :-) Maybe it doesn't now, bu

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread Steve Mansfield
Atte André Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : >On Friday 15 June 2001 11:20, Phil Taylor wrote: > >> I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the grounds >> that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard for music >> production > >I didn't know BarFly ran on Linux

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-17 Thread Atte André Jensen
On Friday 15 June 2001 11:20, Phil Taylor wrote: > I could equally claim that BarFly is the de facto standard on the grounds > that it runs on the platform which is the de facto standard for music > production I didn't know BarFly ran on Linux :-) -- Atte To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your br

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-15 Thread John Chambers
Phil Taylor writes: | I have over 10,000 tunes on my machine, downloaded from all over the web, | and less than 5% of them have exclamation marks at the ends of the lines. Some time ago, I had my tune finder's search bot tell me statistics about such things, and my numbers were about the same.

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-15 Thread Phil Taylor
I guess you must be an abc2win user then Gianni? >As we both know - as anybody else on this list, for the matter! - >ABC2WIN is "de facto" the standard as far as the abc notation is >employed on the web, both as far as the mailing list and a number of >the abc collections of tunes available fo

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-14 Thread Gianni Cunich
On 13/06/01 at 0.20 John Chambers wrote: >>Gianni Cunich writes: >> >>| Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi >>behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick! >>... >>| The "real" problem, IMO, is a totally different one: is there anybody >who actually cares about

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-14 Thread Johnny Adams
> > Depending on the specific hornpipe, the ratio of a hornpipe's small > notes can range from 3:2 to 3:1. A 2:1 ratio is the most common, of > course, which is why some people say that hornpipes should be written > in 12/8 or 12/16 rather than 4/4. It could be useful if a midi > gene

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-14 Thread John Chambers
Richard Robinson wrote: | On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Jack Campin wrote: | > > My understanding of the a>b construct is | > > that it is specially for hornpipes | > | > Your understanding is wrong. | > | > Hornpipes don't need any such notation. They are often written in even | > length notes with the c

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-14 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Jack Campin wrote: > > My understanding of the a>b construct is > > that it is specially for hornpipes > > Your understanding is wrong. > > Hornpipes don't need any such notation. They are often written in even > length notes with the context telling the user to swing them

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-13 Thread Richard Robinson
On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, James Allwright wrote: > > I have to disagree strongly here. My understanding of the a>b construct is > that it is specially for hornpipes and so you can use it for a 2:1 ratio > if that is what you want elsewhere. If you want 3:1, then you can write > a3/2b/2. My understand

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-13 Thread Wil Macaulay
I'm assuming your tongue is firmly in cheek here, but a couple of things are useful to mention: - traditional tunes are often notated differently than they are played. Hornpipes are a good example, since they can be written straight and played dotted (Note: I am not talking about abc, just about d

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-13 Thread Laura Conrad
> "James" == James Allwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: James> My understanding of the a>b construct is that it is James> specially for hornpipes and so you can use it for a 2:1 James> ratio if that is what you want elsewhere. If you want 3:1, James> then you can write a3/2b/

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-13 Thread James Allwright
On Tue 12 Jun 2001 at 09:29PM +0200, Gianni Cunich wrote: > Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi >behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick! > > The problem about the way abc2midi handles the broken rythms shortcut is that it >actually playes (and "save as" mi

Re: [abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-12 Thread John Chambers
Gianni Cunich writes: | Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi |behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick! ... | The "real" problem, IMO, is a totally different one: is there anybody who actually |cares about the respect of the standard anymore? | | I assume th

[abcusers] abc compliant software (was:midi2abc [was: Wanted: ABC transcription...])

2001-06-12 Thread Gianni Cunich
Sorry, but I actually got bored about the discussion about the abc2midi behaviour...so bored I actually felt sick! The problem about the way abc2midi handles the broken rythms shortcut is that it actually playes (and "save as" midi) any beat using the ">" symbol as a triplet, even if in the R: