RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-16 Thread Oliver Marshall
PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster I get different results. Feeling inaccurate, I went and enabled dumpsteralwayson on my computer. Shift+Delete the message. Check the folder it was deleted from and voila (that's my extent of French) it was in the deleted items

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-16 Thread Oliver Marshall
. -Original Message- From: Ayers, Diane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 January 2004 19:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster That's it exactly Andy. Thanks. Sounds like I need to do a simple test. Diane -Original Message- From: David

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread deji Agba
PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster But Shift-Delete is not a permanent delete. Assuming you have deleted item retension enabled, shift-delete simply marks the message for deletion, but it is still available within that folder's dumpster until the DIR time expires

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster I usually refrain from adding to a thread more than once, except to occasionally concur. I have always thought that, all things being equal, Shift-Delete is indeed a permanent delete, given the following circumstances

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Mulnick, Al
--Original Message-From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:46 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster There are a lot of default settings that most admins change - and deleted item retension is o

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
ystems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message-From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:38 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster No, dumpsteralwayson is used to set the mail properties for th

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Mulnick, Al
PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Hate to say it, but you're wrong on that one Al. The client side registry key simply changes whether or not the client is aware of the "dumpster" in a particular mailbox folder. Remember, the "dumpster&quo

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Oliver Marshall
: 15 January 2004 07:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster I usually refrain from adding to a thread more than once, except to occasionally concur. I have always thought that, all things being equal, Shift-Delete is indeed a permanent delete, given

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
. -Original Message-From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:19 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster That's OK Roger. We just need to tell Microsoft to rewrite that KB below else I need to drink more

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread deji Agba
1/15/2004 7:16 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Thanks for the interesting comments on this thread. I have had official word from several MS support peeps that would seem to resolve the issue. It would seem that SHIFT+DELETE marks a message as deleted

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Mulnick, Al
:) -Original Message-From: deji Agba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 11:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster That is exactly how it operates in the field. UNLESS you have manually enabled DumpsterAlwaysOn on a client

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Ayers, Diane
is recovered from the Dumpster? Diane From: Mulnick, Al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:57 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster I get different results. Feeling inaccurate, I went and enabled dumpsteralwayson on my computer

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-15 Thread Roger Seielstad
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:30 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Following this thread, a related question (taking it even more OT) comes up. Often in email discovery cases, we use ExMerge to suck the dumpster off

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-14 Thread Oliver Marshall
3rd party tools = Purchase Order = HAHAHAHAHAH ! -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 January 2004 21:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster I would argue then that you need to look at 3rd party archival tools

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-14 Thread Oliver Marshall
: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster your protection against this CYA type of deletion is backup. If you maintain a diligent backup of your Exchange Server, you can always do a restore to your offline server whenever you need to prove something. Disabling access to the Recover Deleted Items

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-14 Thread W2K List
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of deji Agba Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster your protection against this CYA type of deletion is backup. If you maintain a diligent

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-14 Thread Roger Seielstad
Agba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:40 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster your protection against this "CYA" type of deletion is backup. If you maintain a diligent backup of your Exchange Server, you

[ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-13 Thread Oliver Marshall
Does anyone know a GPO setting that will allow me to prevent users from accessing the Recover Deleted Items addin in Outlook ? Someone on an exchange mailing list said that there is a GP setting to prevent this addin being loaded. Olly List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-13 Thread Roger Seielstad
] Subject: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Does anyone know a GPO setting that will allow me to prevent users from accessing the Recover Deleted Items addin in Outlook ? Someone on an exchange mailing list said that there is a GP setting to prevent this addin being loaded. Olly

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
and the Outlook Dumpster I would argue then that you need to look at 3rd party archival tools! -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Because

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-13 Thread David, Andy
I would argue then that you need to look at 3rd party archival tools! -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Because while the Recover

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-13 Thread Mulnick, Al
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Or other capabilities available in Outlook/Exchange, such as journaling, message tracking, etc. etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster

2004-01-13 Thread deji Agba
esterday? -anon From: Oliver MarshallSent: Tue 1/13/2004 12:07 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] GPO and the Outlook Dumpster Because while the Recover Deleted Items addin allows you...err...recover deleted items a user can also delete things permanently. We have had people 'covering their