[AFMUG] heads-up: ePMP3000L & sync pulse in cold weather

2019-10-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just a quick heads up for those of you plugging an ePMP3000L into a device capable of producing a sync-over-power pulse (i.e. a PacketFlux device, or a CMM or CTM). It appears that the ePMP3000L won't start, and in some cases will shut down, in the presence of a traditional canopy-style sync pulse

Re: [AFMUG] callsigns for each licensed PTP link

2019-10-31 Thread Eric Kuhnke
yes, but it's unnecessarily wasteful and more paperwork to have more than one callsign for the same latitude/longitude tower or rooftop site coordinates. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:37 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 10/29/19 1:21 PM, Daniel White wrote: > > I've never seen a coordinator offer a d

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
Now that I think about it, I wonder how it makes the people who work at Apple's Genius Bar feel? bp On 10/31/2019 4:42 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Must be intimidating to have "smart" in your company name. bp On 10/31/2019 4:23 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > My favorite Smartbridges stor

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
Must be intimidating to have "smart" in your company name. bp On 10/31/2019 4:23 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: My favorite Smartbridges story happened at the Wispcon in Dallas. I was finishing up setting up my booth for ImageStream and so w

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
My favorite Smartbridges story happened at the Wispcon in Dallas. I was finishing up setting up my booth for ImageStream and so was Tracy from Electrocom. The SB engineers were having a terrible time setting theirs up...and I know they were way smarter dudes than me. We got it up for them.

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
The one thing I remember was that they (the smartbridges) almost always failed by filling with water. I would be willing to bet there is a powershot hiding in a box somewhere. bp On 10/31/2019 2:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Remember the

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Remember the Powershots? I still occasionally find those in the van or under furniture, they're like cockroaches. And what was the marking on that stupid 26 AWG Cat5 cable, something like Space Station Cable or Astronaut Cable? From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, October

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
We used a few smartbridges for some intralan building-building type links. Wow. I'd almost forgotten how bad those things were. bp On 10/31/2019 11:51 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I will say in my experience Cambium radios are far more robust to

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Even cooler when they're filled with water. On 10/31/2019 3:51 PM, Mike Meluskey wrote: But you have to admit, they looked cool: On 31 Oct 2019, at 15:42, Adam Moffett wrote: Smartbridges.you just triggered my PTSD On 10/31/2019 2:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I will say in my e

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Smartbridges.you just triggered my PTSD On 10/31/2019 2:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I will say in my experience Cambium radios are far more robust to power issues than Ubiquiti.  We have a bunch of Nanostations of various vintage at customer sites to link between buildings, and run into all

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I will say in my experience Cambium radios are far more robust to power issues than Ubiquiti. We have a bunch of Nanostations of various vintage at customer sites to link between buildings, and run into all sorts of lockups, resets, and deaths due to power issues. The Cambium radios at the same s

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
Asymmetric channels for up/down allow it to be either FDD or TDD. If the frequencies are not overlapping, then not doing FDD might be wasteful, but it wouldn't be mandatory. bp On 10/31/2019 10:57 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: What is asymm

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Also helps with picking channels that might be congested in the tower but not so on the customer end and vice-versa.. Imagine these 2 features: -Asymmetric channel size configuration -Asymmetric channel freq. configuration AP Tx 40 mhz 5800 Rx 10 mhz 5840 From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
I think if the power brick is one of those old ones, then either the too low voltage or the too high voltage would be an issue. Ever since I started "doing computer stuff", 80% of all the problems I've seen can be traced back to power issues of one kind or another

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
As I thought about it moreI guess if you stick with a TDD duty cycle then you could pick up and down frequencies which would otherwise interfere with each other and it stays in sync with your other TDD equipment. I think I'm on board now. On 10/31/2019 2:06 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
When I went to change out this SM, it turned out to be an old former Trango customer from about 14 years ago that we never changed the POE, and it was in fact a transformer. Do you think when the power came back on an overvoltage condition propagated to the SM and fried something? Or just star

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
I guess I don't understand how having different frequencies for uplink and downlink is not FDD.  What am I missing? On 10/31/2019 2:06 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Different freqs for download vs upload… on tdd.. UBNT LTU has this *From: *AF on behalf of Adam Moffett *Reply-To: *AnimalFa

Re: [AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
I've seen SMs do all kinds of crazy things during a brown out. It happened more when the power bricks were simple transformers, as the voltage sag would get through to the SM. They would reset to factory default, uncalibrated. So yeah. bp On 10/31/2019 1

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Different freqs for download vs upload… on tdd.. UBNT LTU has this From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 1:58 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit What is asymmet

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Ryan Hill
Attention Matt! Can you confirm you’ve received the last few emails from the Cambium Lifers:) ? I’d like to add that it would be advantageous fort you to give the Lifers an opportunity to help you in the design and testing process. Real world deployments and installations are the best way t

[AFMUG] 450 SM lost config, feature key, and radio calibration

2019-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Has anyone experienced a Cambium SM losing not just the radio calibration data but the config and also reverting to 4 Mbps aggregate (it was bought as a 20 Mbps unit, this wasn't even an upgrade key, although I suspect they all start as 4 Mbps units and the factory squirts a feature key into them)?

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
What is asymmetric channel freq if it's not FDD? On 10/31/2019 1:38 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: No fdd… CA if posible… *From: *AF on behalf of Adam Moffett *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Date: *Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 11:50 AM *To: *"af@af.afmug.com" *Subject: *Re:

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
No fdd… CA if posible… From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 11:50 AM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit So FDD and carrier aggregation? Those are usually high pr

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
So FDD and carrier aggregation?  Those are usually high priced features. On 10/31/2019 11:45 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: and we are at it, @Matt Mangriotis consider the following for an extended life of the 450 platform: -Asymmetric channel si

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Tyson Burris
Same, we don’t care for the gain on the factory 450B HG dish. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
and we are at it, @Matt Mangriotis consider the following for an extended life of the 450 platform: -Asymmetric channel size configuration -Asymmetric channel freq. configuration -higher modulations (don’t know if HW is capable) -fragmented channel ass

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
That is our standard, we don’t bother with any other dorm factor, just connectorized when we need more gain… A feedhorn design that you can adapt to diff. size dishes would be the optimal CPE… (similar to mimosa).. 1 feed + 18,24 and 36” dishes… Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t

Re: [AFMUG] Equipment alarm relays

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
The carrier switches and backhauls always have them though.  See Adtran, Ceragon, etc.  Someone uses them. All I can imagine is maybe you have a cellular or serial packet radio that can send you the alarms even if you lose connectivity. Or maybe it's just an organizational momentum thing.  You

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I think a 25 dBi antenna would be a standard customer install. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 9:05:58 AM Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Yesgive us all the goddamn gain.  There must be a vocal market segment that wants small, cute antennas.  But, If you want the 32+ SNR for 256QAM then you need gain.  Gain beets cuteness for anybody who's done the math. On 10/31/2019 10:02 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Matt, The original for

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Matt, The original form factor product would be fantastic. It would be even better if you make it so the internal unit antenna is specifically designed to properly illuminate a reflector dish. The original patch antenna matching to a reflector was always something of a kludge that worked b

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Yes, that should have happened from day one. Please make this happen now… From: AF On Behalf Of Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit Matt- That needs to happen now rather the

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Tyson Burris
I fully agree Kurt. We would touch the lite if it is limited with such a short range. And yes, we are buying up 450 SM’s through the gray market. (new but much cheaper) Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Matt is 450i-LITE going to have the same 2 mile max distance restriction as the MicroPOP? If not that is still a good reason to have the LITE around in addition to be able to afford to fully sectorize a tower from day 1 instead of starting out with a omni like we have been doing. Because of the inc

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Tyson Burris
Matt- That needs to happen now rather then later. Just saying… Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solut

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
Also, to set the record a straight(er)… The 450b Connectorized is targeted for March release. This will indeed have RP-SMA connectors at the top (similar to 900 MHz SM). The other one that you guys are talking about, I am calling 450b Retro. As Jeff mentions, I am still working up a plan for th

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: 450i LITE AP - 20 SM limit

2019-10-31 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
Really the only reason I released the Lite 450i is because I couldn’t get the MicroPoP out soon enough… If we had the MicroPoP out, I would not even have done this. I think that MicroPoP is a cool little product that can really help to “fill the gaps” in a network, at a reasonable price. Matt

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] T-Mobile Now Offers Home Internet For $50 a Month With No Data Cap - Cord Cutters News

2019-10-31 Thread chuck
My version of this same story goes as follows: After the COO/head of sales promised the world to a water utility, we walked out of the meeting and he said to me:" I sure hope you can invent all that crap we just sold them". I did. Created my own version of X.25/ethernet mashup to do it. ---