Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

I’m able to get 10 Cisco ASR920s for under 10k from Cisco. Just depends on who your account team is, and how much business you do. Just like Streakwave, Winncom, etc. > On Nov 20, 2019, at 8:10 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > > Uh, yeah. > > $10k doesn’t buy me enough functionality. >

Re: [AFMUG] traffic often spikes up at 8pm

8pm is when a lot of kids make a transition, either to bed, or to shower, the phones go on to check things or listen to music, my guess anyway, its what happens here On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 9:52 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > HQ maybe? > > On Nov 20, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > We

Re: [AFMUG] traffic often spikes up at 8pm

HQ maybe? > On Nov 20, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > We still see a step up around 4pm when the kids get home from school. The > dip at 6pm seems to have gone away, I guess people stream video during dinner > now. > > But I’m puzzled by a spike we usually see at 8pm. Is this just

[AFMUG] traffic often spikes up at 8pm

We still see a step up around 4pm when the kids get home from school. The dip at 6pm seems to have gone away, I guess people stream video during dinner now. But I'm puzzled by a spike we usually see at 8pm. Is this just a fluke? Or is there some 5 minute TV show people are all watching at

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Uh, yeah. $10k doesn’t buy me enough functionality. Would need 10 of those. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Why? Price? On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Why? Price? On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:53 PM Sterling Jacobson wrote: > No thanks. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:12 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] MPLS > > > > Time to grow up… Juniper ACX

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Can’t comment on Juniper, but I found Cisco too hard to find a reseller to sell to us (honestly we could rarely afford new Cisco gear anyway), and then needing a maintenance contract to get fixes for serious bugs. Also buying hardware modules and finding again we needed a maintenance contract

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

No thanks. From: AF On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Time to grow up… Juniper ACX or Cisco ASR920 From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Both in our case… or mptmp WAN. Wholesale last mile too From: AF on behalf of CBB Fuller Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 6:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS L2 connections. Like cellphone towers back to

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Time to grow up… Juniper ACX or Cisco ASR920 From: AF on behalf of Sterling Jacobson Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 4:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

L2 connections. Like cellphone towers back to some point? or business location a to business location b? can you give me some examples? Thanks. - Original Message - From: Adam Moffett To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

I see the point. On 11/20/2019 4:08 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: A router does indeed switch labels on a router faster than it routes packets. Yes, I would imagine many people are in a situation where MPLS would make a meaningful impact on their routers. Ever upgrade a router because it ran out

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers Very interesting case study. I'm curious to see how this works moving forward. I can see similar things happening here. Usually the customer isn't even aware. But I could also see a lot of pushback if you start sending

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

So at peak they slow to two streaming devices instead of the four they can use at 1 pm on a Sunday (cause everyone else is at sunday dinner) do they think your network just sucks because it slows down at peak times? just curious - Original Message - From: Steve Jones To:

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

A router does indeed switch labels on a router faster than it routes packets. Yes, I would imagine many people are in a situation where MPLS would make a meaningful impact on their routers. Ever upgrade a router because it ran out of nuts? Maybe you didn't need to. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Sounds like you switched off the CCR 1072.  If you can share I'd be curious what direction you went.  We've got an eye on Juniper, but haven't committed to that. -Adam On 11/20/2019 3:24 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: I think so. *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Adam Moffett *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

I think so. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 1:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So bridging the VPLS interfaces was the bottleneck? On 11/20/2019 3:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

So bridging the VPLS interfaces was the bottleneck? On 11/20/2019 3:09 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I think I introduced some possible bottlenecks above 4.5Gbps using MPLS/VPLS in my own network which is Mikrotik. VPLS endpoints I don’t

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Well there's a fiber side and a wireless side to this operation. On the fiber side we're selling a crapload of L2 connections. Another thing that appeals to me is that if I tunnel all traffic from a POP back to the core, then the routers at each POP have a config that is almost identical. 

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Well put. Capacity/speed is an issue with me, so I think I introduced some possible bottlenecks above 4.5Gbps using MPLS/VPLS in my own network which is Mikrotik. VPLS endpoints I don’t think were/are hardware offloaded, so required some great CPU capacity at the edge and core for large

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

You can, its up to you. Is routing faster on MikroTik by using MPLS/VPLS? No Do you gain extra capacity by reducing the router load per packet by using MPLS? Yes, think looking at 4-bytes of data vs 40. Is it 10 fold increase, no but you get the point. What is the big deal about MPLS without

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Nop different routers.. at least on our case… other might do ROAS From: AF on behalf of Adam Moffett Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 3:17 PM To: "af@af.afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS So do you tunnel everything back to the core and

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

So do you tunnel everything back to the core and then do "router on a stick" ? On 11/20/2019 2:14 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Yeap VPLS is where is at… VPLS tunnels to the towers, CORE routing + L2VPN to customers( Enterprise, Wholesale) *GinoVillarini *Founder/President @gvillarini

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

Yeap VPLS is where is at… VPLS tunnels to the towers, CORE routing + L2VPN to customers( Enterprise, Wholesale) Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

Just sayin I got new things to sell :-D photograph Daniel White Co-Founder & Managing Director of Operations phone: +1 (702) 470-2766 direct:+1 (702) 470-2770 Steve Jones wrote on 11/19/19 22:06: Yep, youre the guy, youre salesmanship is why your word is solid gold to me, literally

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

It seems like lots of people in the WISP-world are running MPLS just to use VPLS. Reasons for doing this are typically to achieve better IPv4 utilization (not having to route a block of IP's to each POP and maybe wasting IPv4, etc). Another common use-case is providing L2VPN services for

[AFMUG] MPLS

I think I don't fully understand what the advantages are of MPLS. I mean I've been reading the white-papers and such, and I see it brings some features to the table, but when are we going to use them? Routing speed: * MPLS can make forwarding decisions faster.  When they made this in the

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

Title: Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers A real life example of why UBB or Usage Tracking is a good idea.  Had a customer call in yesterday, she got an email stating she was getting close to her limit.  We pulled up her account.  In September she used 60GB.  

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

Got our followup today. This is exactly the sales process i like. We are going to to a GUI demo, get set up with our account. maybe RTFM, probably not. pick a link and put it in. Unless I come across some major skullduggery, this is the perfect solution for our builds. The savings is such that

Re: [AFMUG] OT adjustable beds

I've found that smiling people cost a lot more than 10K. I mean sure, anyone will smile for a bit for 10K but it takes a lot more than that to keep them smiling. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:58 PM < > > The ads for these beds always have smiling people in them... They are > like $10K > > Maybe we

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

i think they have had it for the past year or two On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:05 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Holy cow, when Did they add that, overage used to account even if you had > non billed time. > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 11:49 PM Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > >> Steve, >> >> I'm looking at my

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

it can go that low? On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 8:38 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > But no writing if your BAC is less than 0.1 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 20, 2019, at 3:16 AM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: > >  > You really should consider writing a novel. > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 10:20 PM Steve

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

But no writing if your BAC is less than 0.1 Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2019, at 3:16 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > >  > You really should consider writing a novel. > >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 10:20 PM Steve Jones wrote: >> Thats the motherfucker, kens his name. Its funny you guys mention

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

Aviat is being used extensively here on the AWIN sites. On 11/19/19 9:47 PM, Steve Jones wrote: What do you old hippie degenerates know about these folks? I did a dot I cross T on SAF vs Cambium gear post so I could keep getting my SAF gear and this Aviat fella pissed on my parade. This is an

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

We have deployed a few Aviat radios, and they are solid. Configuration is very simple compared to Ceragon…. 4096QAM is awesome too. Internet. ​Phone. ​TV. Andreas Wiatowski CEO/Founder Silo 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 | andr...@silo.ca silo.ca From: AF on behalf of Daniel White Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

Really old timers will remember that Aviat’s genesis starts at Lenkurt in 1958. Here’s an excerpt from George Kizer’s book, Digital Microwave Communication: Engineering Point-to-Point Microwave Systems. Aviat is by far the largest US supplier for Public Safety, Utilities, Railroads, local

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

Holy cow, when Did they add that, overage used to account even if you had non billed time. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 11:49 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Steve, > > I'm looking at my powercode billing server now and it appears that there > is a way to charge for data that only happens during certain

Re: [AFMUG] UBB - Usage Based Billing WAS: tired of entitled streamers

So. Can you limit speed during peak times using Powercode though? > On Nov 20, 2019, at 12:48 AM, Kurt Fankhauser > wrote: > > Steve, > > I'm looking at my powercode billing server now and it appears that there is a > way to charge for data that only happens during certain hours. (see

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat

You really should consider writing a novel. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 10:20 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Thats the motherfucker, kens his name. Its funny you guys mention the GUI, > thats about the only thing Im questioning on the gear right now. usually my > sales communications is a whole bunch of