Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Ryan Ray
SNMP is still pretty much the de-facto monitoring standard. Going to run through a demo of this in a week. Looking forward to seeing what it can do. https://www.selector.ai For your needs, you should use Zabbix. I think it's going to be supported for a long time going into the future, it has good

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
20 years ago we used stuff from a weird little company called BlackBox for remote monitoring and control. Looks like they still exist and make kind of what Chuck is looking for, probably overkill though.

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I have a few servers that need to send error notifications. Trying to keep Google accepting those notifications was a real struggle, even when using TLS + SMTP AUTH. They seem to have set up some options recently, but I moved those to a third-party mail provider before those became an option so I

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Bash it is! On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 5:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I think the simple email alert is what we are looking for.. No NMS > needed. > > > > *From:* castarritt > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:33 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SNMP > >

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I think the simple email alert is what we are looking for.. No NMS needed. From: castarritt Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP We've done stuff as ghetto as powering an old wrt54g through the alarm contacts and monitoring

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread castarritt
We've done stuff as ghetto as powering an old wrt54g through the alarm contacts and monitoring its IP address to see when it comes up and goes down. These days all of our sites have either an Alpha or ICT UPS or DC shelf that has alarm monitoring inputs. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:30 PM Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
As long as you support SMTP AUTH, I think that should be sufficient. If necessary, someone could always create a Gmail account for this purpose. Yes, there are some older devices that expect you to set them up as an MTA rather than MUA so they can send unauthenticated SMTP on port 25. That

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
If you don’t need to monitor more than 100 “sensors”, PRTG has a free edition. Note it runs on Windows (doesn’t have to be Windows Server). https://www.paessler.com/howto-free-network-monitoring 100 sensors is not the same as 100 devices. The paid versions are kind of pricey. Based

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Some devices can be configured to send an email if a contact closes, but the way this happens varies between devices. My problem with integrating this on the the sitemonitor platform has traditionally been that you need a rule system in order to determine when to send the email. I.E. what

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
As others have mentioned, the existing firmware in the base 3's is basically SNMP-polling only. The Base 3 was built to be able to do all of the other items, but the whole covid supply chain pretty much killed R around here for a couple years other than keeping product shipping. It has finally

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not following how you are going to use SNMP without a monitoring system.Packetflux Sitemonitor can turn a contact closure into a 1 or 0 OID that an SNMP monitoring system can check at regular intervals, mine mostly polls every 1 minute. But then you would typically have your NMS send an alert

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Thanks, I am going to take a look at the 408 ControlByWeb unit. It would get us there. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: TJ Trout ; Josh Luthman ; Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Chuck, the PacketFlux products are

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Colin Stanners
Chuck, the PacketFlux products are great for many use cases but I'm not sure this is one of them as the non-GPS-sync built in functionality in PF units is very basic. Look at the ControlByWeb products, amusingly their location in Nibley UT is not far from you. I think their X-408 is cost

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
So how do Forrest’s products let you know of an issue? Traps? \Would love to NOT have to have NMS just for this. From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SNMP Packet flux can do it all too, the base

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread TJ Trout
Packet flux can do it all too, the base unit can monitor two voltages and temp and a few contact closures, if you need more volt inputs or closures you add a expansion unit. No email that I'm aware of On Wed, May 8, 2024, 12:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > No, we have fuse alarms, rectifier,

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Maybe Forrest will jump on here for a sales pitch. At a minimum I need contact closures. But temp and DC voltage monitoring would be handy. Not sure the differences in all his products. Email notification would probably be the best for me. From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
No, we have fuse alarms, rectifier, inverter, and other comm equipment alarm contacts. Circuit breaker alarms. That is why historically I liked the netguardian product. It eats everything. Monitors DC voltages etc. Temps From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:13 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread TJ Trout
I would prefer packet flux since it's made in the USA but I don't believe they have on board email, if you don't want to deploy an SNMP server this might be an option https://tyconsystems.com/homepage/shop/tpdin-monitor-web3/ On Wed, May 8, 2024, 12:10 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > What does the

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Bill Prince
I think if your installed equipment all came from one vendor, there might be some way to do their proprietary monitoring solution. However, SNMP as flawed as it might be, is the only standard that is nearly universal (because some implementations are better than others). bp On 5/8/2024

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The alarms come off various devices. They are generally contact closures. We need to route those to something. Netguardians will take a wide variety of discrete inputs, analog voltages, ethernet pings etc. And it puts out things link SNMP traps and even pots dial up pager type of

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Josh Luthman
What does the alarm contact offer? Just SNMP? If so, you need to figure out if the alarm contact is going to be changing the OID or not. Some software works better in this situation. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 3:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > We have nothing at the moment. So before I

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
We have nothing at the moment. So before I purchased a netguardian I though I would ping the borg to see if there is a cheaper or simpler system. We recently discovered that we had a rectifier fault and an inverter fault so our system goes down during a power failure while waiting for the

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread TJ Trout
What's the use case? Do you have an existing snmp system? Sometimes a box with built in email client is less of a hassle, I'm sure there are cloud solutions as well. On Wed, May 8, 2024, 11:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > We are needing to add some monitoring of old fashioned alarm contacts

[AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-08 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
We are needing to add some monitoring of old fashioned alarm contacts in one of our sites. In the past I used Netguardians. Not sure what Forrest has. Is SNMP still the defacto NMS comm method or are there better more modern stuff out there we should be looking at? Best Regards, Chuck