Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-20 Thread Mathew Howard
g outside the box” or “get back in the damn box”. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:56 PM >> *To:* AFMUG >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner >> >> >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-20 Thread Matt Hoppes
f.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:33 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
n view it as “thinking outside the box” or “get back in the damn box”. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:56 PM > *To:* AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner > > > > You would need dual carrier, beca

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
“get back in the damn box”. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:56 PM To: AFMUG Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner You would need dual carrier, because I'm talking about using the single core Aviat radios, to keep it as cheap as possible. An AF11

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Mathew Howard
ems to me > the appropriate cost comparison would be 2 x AF11X vs 1 x single carrier > Aviat. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:08 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz co

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Aviat. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner I don't see how it can be a lot cheaper. Ignoring potential differences in licensing/coordination, last I checked a complete

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread chuck
, 2020 11:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner So theoretically, you could probably get them with SMA connectors and put them on the radio side of the AF11 diplexors? On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:33 AM wrote: The problem is keeping one transmitter out

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Mathew Howard
if > you have to use 2 of them and some outboard stuff to do what other vendors > can do with one radio. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:33 AM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users G

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Mathew Howard
y methods I know. You can get > both at 11 GHz with waveguide or SMA connectors. > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Radabaugh > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 7:06 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner > > This is usuall

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Matt Hoppes
you > have to use 2 of them and some outboard stuff to do what other vendors can do > with one radio. > > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:33 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
rd stuff to do what other vendors can do with one radio. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2020 8:33 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner The problem is keeping one transmitter out of the other. So yo

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread chuck
: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner This is usually done using wave guides rather than at the electrical level due to the high losses that occur when trying to do it using transmission lines. It’s a pretty complex piece of waveguide design - not something you

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-19 Thread Mark Radabaugh
This is usually done using wave guides rather than at the electrical level due to the high losses that occur when trying to do it using transmission lines. It’s a pretty complex piece of waveguide design - not something you can cobble together. The vendors with full product lines in the micr

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-18 Thread Tim Hardy
FYI, the ODU 600 has three separate diplexer tuning ranges for the 11 GHz band, but frequencies coupled together on the same polarization must use the same diplexer range. AFAIK, there is no guidance on the AF-11 on this or the required minimum T-T and T-R spacing as well as requirements for PIM.

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Since the AF11 already has different diplexers for the two sub-bands, I suspect it might work if you have one high band and one low band link, but I seriously doubt they'd work too well if they're both in the same sub-band. It seems pretty unlikely that there are any N type couplers available, sin

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-18 Thread Tim Hardy
I’m not sure if there are any N type couplers, but there are WR90 to N connectors and UDR/PDR couplers available (these are used when combining frequency pairs together on the ODU 600 for example). Bigger question would be how two AF-11s would work together on the same path/same antenna system.

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-18 Thread Bill Prince
That would be a tall order. AF11 radios are two-pole already, and the diplexers have a N connector. if you had the right frequencies; maybe, but it is difficult for me to visualize. bp On 1/18/2020 12:23 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Does anyone know of a 10-12ghz combiner module? Example - I want

Re: [AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Why would you want to do that? even if you can find the parts to make it work, it's most likely going to cost more than just buying some Aviat radios, and it isn't going to work as well. On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 2:24 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Does anyone know of

[AFMUG] 11 ghz combiner

2020-01-18 Thread Matt Hoppes
Does anyone know of a 10-12ghz combiner module? Example - I want to run two airFiber 11x radios on one dish. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com