Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Yes. ...registers are alien to most standard Ethernet...words and such...I know the headaches serial is not so that Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 9:21 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > PROFIBUS is the frickin devil. > > I spent a lot of time running ethernet and fiber and dealing with issues > f

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Its Siemens. .its Profibus...watch Rise of the Hackers from Nova and u will these PLCs on it. Not sure if thats what gear was sabotaged by Stuxnet virus which messed with VFD s that messed up centrifuges. Higher RPM to damage them. Very low (2hz I think) to make them wobble and thus toppled.

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

PROFIBUS is the frickin devil. I spent a lot of time running ethernet and fiber and dealing with issues for an Astec Asphalt mixing plant a few years back. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/22/2015 07:12 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Industrial automation porn! Jaime Solorz

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Industrial automation porn! Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 8:50 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Ahhh PROFIBUS? > > Josh Reynolds > CIO, SPITwSPOTS > www.spitwspots.com > > On 05/22/2015 06:39 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >> >> My consultant Lewis Bergman has advised me to offer proof of my >> statemen

Re: [AFMUG] mt ospf question

This argument has come up several times and In most cases it is a matter of preference. It does actually make a difference in how these routes are treated. For 90% or more of the people it will not make a difference and you choose your preference. Some like to use the networks statement as an A

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Ahhh PROFIBUS? Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/22/2015 06:39 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: My consultant Lewis Bergman has advised me to offer proof of my statements, drinking and work ..voila. RTU in the boonies outside Borger. Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Oh no I definitely do, remember I'm passing these costs to the customer! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > An electrician would consider two GFCI’s in series unprofessional. It

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Inside as well Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 5:27 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > An electrician would consider two GFCI’s in series unprofessional. It > does not provide any more protection, and in the even one of them trips, it > is likely to cause confusion. > > That said, there are DIN rail mou

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Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

An electrician would consider two GFCI’s in series unprofessional. It does not provide any more protection, and in the even one of them trips, it is likely to cause confusion. That said, there are DIN rail mount GFCI modules with no outlet just the test and reset buttons, you could wire one ah

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*SM Authentication is bypassed when SM registers via ICC* Now this is cool. This is something I suggested when ICC first came about. So if you're doing authentication but still want to use ICC the way I think all of us would want (true out of box deployment, remote auto-provisioning), this cer

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Right the outlets. Not inside the enclosure (at least mine). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 22, 2015 5:43 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > All outlets here at well sites are GFCI period.So u get used to it. > > Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

All outlets here at well sites are GFCI period.So u get used to it. Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 2:36 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > NEC says you need one GFI device on a circuit. So tell them two is not > code? :) > > On 5/22/2015 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I'm using that enclosure no

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

NEC says you need one GFI device on a circuit. So tell them two is not code? :) On 5/22/2015 3:11 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm using that enclosure now. Need to dremel room for a GFCI. I hate them as well. They're doing a breaker, GFCI and that will go to the GFCI in the box. That's what th

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

I'm using that enclosure now. Need to dremel room for a GFCI. I hate them as well. They're doing a breaker, GFCI and that will go to the GFCI in the box. That's what they want, so that's what I'm charging for. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Tro

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

I hate GFCIs, they are problem causers. How about just replacing the breaker on that circuit with a ground fault breaker? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 1:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet Does such a thing exist? My current plan is to take

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

http://www.l-com.com/productfinder/finderresults.aspx?ftype=ENCLOSURES&finderid=5&steps=14x12x7+Inch%7c120+VAC%7cNone Find one you can adapt, swap the outlet for a GFCI. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/22/2015 11:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Gotta have both (customer requi

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Gotta have both (customer requirement). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > You could wire your box to the load side of a separate outdoor GFCI. Then > the GFCI can also act as a

Re: [AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

You could wire your box to the load side of a separate outdoor GFCI. Then the GFCI can also act as a convenience outlet and disconnect switch. Just a thought. On 5/22/2015 3:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Does such a thing exist? My current plan is to take a small box with a normal outlet and r

[AFMUG] NEMA enclosure with GFCI outlet

Does such a thing exist? My current plan is to take a small box with a normal outlet and replace it, but that requires a bit of dremel work and hence won't look at pretty. I only need a small work space, looking at 14x12x7 right now. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wa

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

That's pretty much why we handle it like we do. $25 fee, we waive it half the time. Since I'm not the only guy doing the work anymore and I have employees to pay now the service call fee will be increasing. When I've got nothing going on I don't really mind riding the country roads with the

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

I'm referring to Time Warner Cable. I guess that's comparing apples and orangutans though. I would say that the major competitor would be out of business at some point.

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Welcome to the land of sunshine, flat roofs, and pre-manufactured housing. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls Dust? Painted roof??? That's all totally foreign

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

You bill the customer for that and the customer passes it on to the Damages department. My guess is they get refunds on their service but I don't know for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:43 AM, CB

Re: [AFMUG] vivint

They are building a hub on my Mother-in-law's house. I plan to check it out more closely next time I'm down there. On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I am in... > > Jaime Solorza > On May 22, 2015 6:57 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > >> if someone wants to pay somebody lots o

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Or when the satellite or phone guy or contractor trys to splice the cable back togetherhorrible Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] charging for service calls Date: Fri, May 22, 2015 10:28 AM The roo

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Flat roof?! That would be absolutely amazing. How often do you burn your hands? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Welcome to the land of sunshine, flat roofs, and pre-manufac

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Dust? Painted roof??? That's all totally foreign to me. We use shingles 90% of the time and sheet metal 9% of the time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Our clue is when th

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Our clue is when the new roof is so clean, there is nothing on the bottom of our shoes when we walk on it. Any painted roof in Arizona will leave dust on the bottom of the shoe from the paint after a period of time. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: F

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

>Then they deny anyone even touched it. SLAP!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > The roofer thing is classic out here but it’s even more fun when they > don’t tell you that’s

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

The roofer thing is classic out here but it’s even more fun when they don’t tell you that’s what happened and you get there, the radio is upside down and it’s toast. Then they deny anyone even touched it. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, May 2

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Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Dogs. Roofers that didn't move the "satelite dish" that happens to be laying on the ground facing 180* the wrong way. Gardeners that thing the black line going up the wall is a root or something. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

We have never charged for tree growth. We do charge for customer related issuesbad routersweed whacking etc. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Paul Stewart" To: Subject: [AFMUG] charging for service calls Date: Fri, May 22, 2015 10:10 AM I would

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

I would say that the major competitor would be out of business at some point. For tree growth and other stuff that's a much more grey area and my experience has been not to charge customers. Having said that, if the customer is insistent on a specific location that you have already suggest

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Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

And I forgot to mention, there are about 75-100 people in the room. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 6:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls Although it was so long I had the lawyer shorten it to wh

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

We don't charge for moving antenna due to tree growth. Unless it requires putting up a pole or tower. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls Good points. However, there's no contentio

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Although it was so long I had the lawyer shorten it to what he said was an unenforceable single page, our original contract specifically spelled out that it was the customer's responsibility to take care of tree growth. I don't think we ever charged anyone for it but we normally didn't move equipme

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Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

My lawyer from the firm Dewey Cheathum and Howe will be contacting you. I used my holographic reading glasses to read it while drinking Luche de Dulce coffee from Pino NM and I have a thought. Someone has to pay for that.You will be getting a commission check once my lawyer settles with Cerve

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Good points. However, there's no contention over charging for bullet holes in the equipment (AFAIK). Really it seems like nobody disagrees that if the customer broke it, the customer should pay for it. The specific case that's causing disagreement is tree growth which requires us to move the

Re: [AFMUG] vivint

I am in... Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 6:57 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > if someone wants to pay somebody lots of money to fail I am always > available. While I have succeeded at a few things, I have plenty of > failures I can put on my resume. > > On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Rory Conawa

Re: [AFMUG] vivint

+1 Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On May 22, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > if someone wants to pay somebody lots of money to fail I am always available. > While I have succeeded at a few things, I have plenty of failures I can put > on my resume. > >> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:

Re: [AFMUG] vivint

if someone wants to pay somebody lots of money to fail I am always available. While I have succeeded at a few things, I have plenty of failures I can put on my resume. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > They are spending all that money for 10MHz? Maybe they should merge >

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

I don't believe you read it Jaime. I have never seen you do any work without posting a picture of it. Since you provided no photographic evidence of your reading this email thread I can't substantiate your having read it. In fact, now that I think of it, I think you post more non work Tecate photo

Re: [AFMUG] C3VoIP-150 Gateway

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Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Half price sale? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 8:20 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls I am billing you guys a consulting fee of 100.00 an hour just to read this. Jaime Solorza On May 22,

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Well said! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Shayne Lebrun Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 6:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls If all service calls are chargable, but you waive where it's your fault, or otherwise indica

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

I am billing you guys a consulting fee of 100.00 an hour just to read this. Jaime Solorza On May 22, 2015 4:23 AM, "Shayne Lebrun" wrote: > If all service calls are chargable, but you waive where it's your fault, > or otherwise indicated, you're an awesome business doing right by your > customer

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

If all service calls are chargable, but you waive where it's your fault, or otherwise indicated, you're an awesome business doing right by your customers. If you roll for free, then charge when you find the customer's been using the radio for target practice, you're a greedy bastard who's out to

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

Similar concept at company I used to work for … All service calls were billable @ $85/hr if I recall the right rate. Customer had to acknowledge the charge before a truck would roll. Minimum 1 hour however due to wide range of travel distances for customers. Customer’s were told howev

Re: [AFMUG] OT antimatter

Make it so number one …. (couldn’t resist) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT antimatter Only if you add Jon Stewart to the tub too. On 05/21/2015 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown wrot

Re: [AFMUG] charging for service calls

We explain a $75 service charge. If it's our equipment or if it's our problem, fixed without charge. If it's hit by the weedwhacker, or poe plugged in backwards, or something that is their fault, it's charged. Regards, Chuck On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > If our servi