Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

We started buying some Supermicro this year ... several different models - a few orders of stand alone servers but mainly everything was blade systems. X10 Microblade systems and more recently Microcloud systems. While their pricing is really good - I am less than impressed in other areas.

Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

The issue is we found the WISP map and where all the coverage is. The areas we are looking at do not have coverage or anyone nearby really. However I'm pretty sure they have DSL there. So its a bit of a scouting party looking for somewhere to start up where things are needed to provide a

Re: [AFMUG] Twas the night

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/stop_penis_erect_archer.gif - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 1:57:58 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Twas the night Zooey Deschanel, in the shower, in Elf. Baby

Re: [AFMUG] Twas the night

True story. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:58 AM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

Moxa makes some pretty cool versions On Nov 25, 2015 9:23 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > I know you may scoff at the idea of a server based on a lowly ATOM chip. > And the idea of paying around $545 for one, plus RAM and HDD. > > But I am putting a couple Supermicro 5018A-TN4 servers

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

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Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

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Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP on iGPS makes opposite AP invisible?

Maybe. In this case the power level was NA, came back via SNMP as an error not zero. From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP on iGPS makes opposite AP invisible? Like this. On 11/25/2015 10:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Twas the night

Phoebe Cates Fast Times scene STILL elicits a response And the breaking down the door to get at her scene from Body Heat sure to get you to attention... On Nov 26, 2015 7:22 AM, "Tyler Treat" wrote: > True story. > > ___ > Mangled by my

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

What are you doing with VMs? We bought a few DL380s for between $1200 and $1500, and we run several virtual machines on each one. Cost per virtual machine is less than $300, and we can make a new one in a few minutes. bp On 11/25/2015 8:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

Another option for very small form factor units not in a rack and in a more extreme environment is www.mini-box.com Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 9:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Twas the night

Oh, ye.. I had forgotten that sweet bit of film From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:40 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Twas the night Phoebe Cates Fast Times scene STILL elicits a response And the breaking down the door to get at her scene from Body

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

Now add batteries to run that DL380 when power is out. And 4 post racks and rail kits and electricity and air conditioning. I have a pile of older generation DL380 servers that are going to the recycler because I can't justify the space, power, and battery runtime to put them back in

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

On 11/25/15 7:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I assume if they are using IP in the backbone, they aren’t doing it the same way we do VoIP on the last mile, which is very inefficient, and introduces a lot of latency. I supervised a CLEC delivery of SIP trunks yesterday - over a T1 (as EFM) using an

Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for PTP600/300/500?

I think that's the same problem you'll have with all injectors besides the cambium one. On Wednesday, November 25, 2015, Colin Stanners wrote: > Hi, we're looking at options to power PTP600/300/500 straight off 48V - it > seems a bit excessive to buy the PIDU units for

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

That's where ours are. bp On 11/26/2015 9:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I have one DL3xx box still running, but it is at a data center where space, weight, power and A/C are non issues.

Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for PTP600/300/500?

I am pretty sure I have heard of customers using my injector for a PTP600. But it is vague memory that is possibly a hallucination. I wonder how the reset signal works... From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 10:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

I think Adtran is likely the best company in tech when comparing product and support. I wish I could claim I had as good a support team as they have. Amazing. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015, 11:22 AM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 11/25/15 7:27 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I assume if they

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Just wish their products were as good as Calex et al. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 10:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System I think Adtran is likely the best company in tech when comparing product and support. I wish I could claim I had as good a

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

I have some PIII Xeon G2’s complete with SCSI drives. They are amazing pieces of mechanical construction. They weigh a ton. Unfortunately I doubt I could get someone to come and get them for free, except for the metal content. I just hate taking them to the recycler. I have a pile of Cisco

[AFMUG] OT one of favorites

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Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for PTP600/300/500?

In the PTP400 datasheet it says there's a frequency-selective short circuit, seems on the "indicator" pair of wires 4&5; I cannot find similar information in the PTP600 datasheet. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am pretty sure I have heard of customers

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Exactly …. Adtran’s marketing on some of their products and what their “real world experience” is doesn’t like up. Having said that, the TA5000 system has promise and I’ve seen a number of ILEC’s deploying it (and CLEC’s). Calix’s big issue is they have their head up their $$s on a lot of

Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for PTP600/300/500?

Perhaps there is a circuit that needs a frequency selective open that will be shorted for regular POE but something that chokes out the higher frequency. I wonder what the frequency is. Don’t know if I have a PIDU around here I could examine. If anyone has one that they want to open and

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Adtran channel banks are just fine. But their FTTH stuff leaves plenty to be desired. TA5000 is an E7 wanna be. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System Exactly …. Adtran’s marketing on some of their products and

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

LOL … yeah, so true… the one thing I like about TA5000 is the CLI is just like managing a router/switch (cisco’ish). Although E7 is pretty nice, just find the command structure a bit harder to work with From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

Awesome thanks for the link! - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 12:28:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS www.broadbandmap.gov At the top of the map you can turn different technologies on and off.

[AFMUG] OT fun

What did the psychiatrist wear under her dress? Freudian Slip

Re: [AFMUG] OT fun

ROFL From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT fun What did the psychiatrist wear under her dress? Freudian Slip

Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for PTP600/300/500?

Interesting how the 450i and 650 product lines seem to be converging. Similar mechanics, same mounting brackets, and the 450i user guide gives several powering options including 802.3at but also for AC+DC powering, the latest incarnation of the PIDU, P/N C65L002A. But 450i does not seem

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Adtran is a long time telecom industry supplier so they are used to supporting important customers, and given their location they can literally hire rocket scientists. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 12:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System Adtran

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

But in the ILEC world, Adtran has always been the ersatz carrier class vendor. Never quite up to snuff. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System Adtran is a long time telecom industry supplier so they are used to

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Is TA5000 lacking so much? Is calix that much better? Can somebody tell us what features Adran is lacking? We are going to decide soon on the FTTH vendor. Tushar > On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Adtran channel banks are just fine. But their FTTH

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Very popular for custom prem demarc equipment though. When I had a DS3 from Verizon, they put a bunch of Adtran equipment on the wall to terminate the OC3 and hand off 3 x DS3 with test jacks and battery backup. Their IADs are very popular with CLECs. Back when I sold T1 service, their TSU

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Definitely .. that was one area that they have always been pretty solid at. For T1 in companies I dealt with, Pairgain was the biggest player though – still is … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 3:53 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

I’d say it’s still maturing … for example, MGCP support was badly broken for a while and their management platform overwrites any changes you make in CLI directly but for some features you had to do it in the CLI for it to work. Quite a bit of this is fixed. Adtran’s TA boxes are rock

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

I was always comparing them against Alcatel etc. There is no doubt they did the channel bank job very well. And at half the cost of the others. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phone System Very popular for custom prem

Re: [AFMUG] Phone System

Calix is better when you compare E7 with the TA5000. But only for features you may never need like POTS from the ONT. TA5000 is much cheaper. It really is not lacking much but we have to keep POTS running and the E7 along with the Calix ONTs really help with that. From: Tushar Patel Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP on iGPS makes opposite AP invisible?

I think it shows zero because Net-SNMP is like, uh, I don't know what to do with this, so zero it is. On 11/26/2015 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Maybe. In this case the power level was NA, came back via SNMP as an error not zero. *From:* George Skorup *Sent:*

Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto?

Google has the important patents. Lenovo bought the company. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 26, 2015 8:00 PM, "Tyler Treat" wrote: > Well yeah, but I thought Google had killed it off or

Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto?

Alltel. VoiceStream On Nov 26, 2015 6:05 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Google has the important patents. Lenovo bought the company. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Nov 26, 2015 8:00 PM,

[AFMUG] Uac-ap-lr

Any feedback on the new unifi stuff? Looking to replace a 3 month old square unifi ac unit that can't even service a iphone or galaxy at 25ft away clear los inside my house. It's an absolute piece of junk. Open to other brands as well, as long as it's in the same price range. Can't spend 1k on

Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

You are welcome, I do this type of stuff for a living ;-) Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

I just snagged a dell Xeon quad core desktop off a special for $300 shipped. The CPU had ~6500 CPU benchmark. It's tough to beat that for normal uses Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I know you may scoff at the

Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto?

Well yeah, but I thought Google had killed it off or something. Didn't they buy all the rights when it got carved up? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto?

Quasar. “works in a drawer” From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:27 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto? Alltel. VoiceStream On Nov 26, 2015 6:05 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: Google has the important patents. Lenovo bought the

Re: [AFMUG] Uac-ap-lr

I have a UniFi N working great for several years in my homeand have installed some AC units for cattle traders association with no issues for phones tablets and laptops... Range is actually pretty goodstrange you have such bad coverage... On Nov 26, 2015 7:58 PM, "TJ Trout"

Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto?

Strong in the cell phone market. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 26, 2015 7:01 PM, "Tyler Treat" wrote: > Sister in law was given this at the Chicago parade earlier. Some kind of > visor deal.

Re: [AFMUG] HelloMoto?

It's kinda like saying "I thought AT was gone?!?!" The brand doesn't die...someone always picks up the brand. On Thursday, November 26, 2015, Tyler Treat wrote: > Sister in law was given this at the Chicago parade earlier. Some kind of > visor deal. Seeing Moto

Re: [AFMUG] Florida WISPS

Not to discourage you, but I actually spent a good amount of time 2 years ago on the Gulf side researching potential opportunities. The bad news is that it is fairly covered very well in most areas (by WISPs or other carriers) which you can make a business case for from Naples to Panama City

[AFMUG] 802.11 AP Proximity

I'm having some strange issues with a RB951G, Signal is strong, but it has random drops, and high latency. I thought it was just dodgy drivers on my laptop, but now other people at the house are complaining (Parents house, I left, but siblings are still there, Parents have no WIFI devices, so

[AFMUG] OT: 35mm Slide Scanner

I was out at the 'rents today, and they pulled out a bunch of their 35mm slides. Some of them are great family pictures, and historical to the area where they live. I'd love to be able to scan them so they're more easily viewable. Looking for recommendations for a good and easy to use Slide

Re: [AFMUG] Non-Cambium PoE for PTP600/300/500?

The only thing I did not like about the large Brick POE supply for the PTP series is that there dimensions were odd when trying to do an all in rack mount cabinet system. If you set them long ways u can only fit one easily in a one u space but when trying to fit more you become very limited on

Re: [AFMUG] Uac-ap-lr

have a look at e400 cnpilot stuff. Tons of features I like vs the unifi gear. On 11/26/2015 8:58 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Any feedback on the new unifi stuff? Looking to replace a 3 month old square unifi ac unit that can't even service a iphone or galaxy at 25ft away clear los inside my house.

Re: [AFMUG] 802.11 AP Proximity

Yes. This is one of the reasons the MT boards that take multiple radio cards never really worked all that well. I believe we had a RB433 with three cards on 1, 6 and 11 at a site for a while and it sucked. Same stuff, high latency, packet loss, etc. Turn off the channel 6 radio and it got

Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server

This one says 0 to 50 C: http://www.logicsupply.com/ml600g-10/ -Original Message- From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - 8 core ATOM server I looked. I need to hit 120+ degrees for our application. Rory

[AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

Is it possible for a PTP450i master to talk to a PTP450 slave now?

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 14.1.1 Release and PTP

I thought interop was only for PMP? On 11/26/2015 11:38 PM, Matt wrote: Is it possible for a PTP450i master to talk to a PTP450 slave now?