Re: [AFMUG] 2.4GHz OFDM antenna recommendations

2016-03-15 Thread Ryan Ray
Spectrum would be available Sent while mobile > On Mar 15, 2016, at 9:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > Depends primarily on the spectrum > >> On Mar 15, 2016 11:12 PM, "Ryan Ray" wrote: >> Hi there. I've got a site with three 450 2.4ghz 60deg Cambium antennas and I >> need to add

Re: [AFMUG] Centralish Illinois wisps and the tornadoes

2016-03-15 Thread Colin Stanners
There's a lot of people who are annoying or whiny when they bitch; Steve, you're entertaining and often quite witty... some would say "sassy". On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:16 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll bitch the whole time. > On Mar 15, 2016 10:11 PM, "Ty

Re: [AFMUG] 2.4GHz OFDM antenna recommendations

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Depends primarily on the spectrum On Mar 15, 2016 11:12 PM, "Ryan Ray" wrote: > Hi there. I've got a site with three 450 2.4ghz 60deg Cambium antennas and > I need to add two more access points in the same direction to get more > bandwidth. Would you replace the antenna with a 30 degree and add t

[AFMUG] 2.4GHz OFDM antenna recommendations

2016-03-15 Thread Ryan Ray
Hi there. I've got a site with three 450 2.4ghz 60deg Cambium antennas and I need to add two more access points in the same direction to get more bandwidth. Would you replace the antenna with a 30 degree and add two more to cover the same area or just a couple more 60deg on different frequencies

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Lolz On Mar 15, 2016 7:53 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Oh look, the Greeks went away and left us this nice horse as a free gift. > Let’s wheel it inside the gate. What could go wrong? > > > *From:* Keefe John > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:58 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Are you saying you're burglarizing chucks house while he's gone? Because, I'm just saying, I like cheap tv's On Mar 15, 2016 10:38 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" wrote: > > i will be at animal farm tomorrow and wedor is it thurs > > > - Original Message - > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica

2016-03-15 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i will be at animal farm tomorrow and wedor is it thurs - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica I'm boycotting everything that's not animal farm. If I actually went to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sounds like a twisted game of settlers of catan On Mar 15, 2016 10:00 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > Well we have some acres and mules unaccounted for. Too many people start > asking questions, people lose their acres and mules > On Mar 15, 2016 8:18 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > >> I just d

Re: [AFMUG] Centralish Illinois wisps and the tornadoes

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I'll bitch the whole time. On Mar 15, 2016 10:11 PM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > Don't make him help you, he means it! > > -Ty > On Mar 15, 2016 8:15 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> News is makin it out to be bad. I can cut out tommorrow if youre hit and >> yo

Re: [AFMUG] Centralish Illinois wisps and the tornadoes

2016-03-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Don't make him help you, he means it! -Ty On Mar 15, 2016 8:15 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > News is makin it out to be bad. I can cut out tommorrow if youre hit and > your guys are at the fun time drinking event. This is not me being nice, > I'm still a dick, but a lot of you have guys o

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Well we have some acres and mules unaccounted for. Too many people start asking questions, people lose their acres and mules On Mar 15, 2016 8:18 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I just don’t know why the Bureau of Land Management is getting into a > racial issue. Most of them are white. Must be gen

Re: [AFMUG] OT More politics

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Kind of puts poor cell service into perspective, doesnt it On Mar 15, 2016 8:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I outlived communism in Burma. I remember when it started. I had a > little girlfriend from there named Lila that was a refugee. My young brain > could not comprehend that if he she went

Re: [AFMUG] Antennas Behind Wood or Glass in Old Building?

2016-03-15 Thread Christopher Gray
I've been looking into the MikroTik mAnt sectors they just released, it seems they are one of the most simple / shallow sectors that could be flush mounted (disguised / less noticeable). Any ideas for other sectors / panels with relatively flat front surfaces? I've discussed replacing building comp

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I'm boycotting everything that's not animal farm. If I actually went to one of these things, it would be animal farm. I dreamed about Chuck knitting, I need to see this. On Mar 15, 2016 8:23 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > You will see... > > *From:* George Skorup > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7

[AFMUG] OT More politics

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I outlived communism in Burma. I remember when it started. I had a little girlfriend from there named Lila that was a refugee. My young brain could not comprehend that if he she went home she could never come back. Hoping for the same in Cuba.

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
You will see... From: George Skorup Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica Did they make you wear the lab coat for the AF experience? On 3/15/2016 8:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is� rocking.� I had to go home early but everybody else is up

Re: [AFMUG] WISPAmerica

2016-03-15 Thread George Skorup
Did they make you wear the lab coat for the AF experience? On 3/15/2016 8:19 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is rocking. I had to go home early but everybody else is up going strong.

[AFMUG] WISPAmerica

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Is rocking. I had to go home early but everybody else is up going strong.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I just don’t know why the Bureau of Land Management is getting into a racial issue. Most of them are white. Must be generational guilt or something... From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? I really hat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
It's actually not. I only affiliate with people who understand the true concept of tolerance. On Mar 15, 2016 8:06 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > You win the most confusing post of the day. > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 8:03 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I really h

[AFMUG] Centralish Illinois wisps and the tornadoes

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
News is makin it out to be bad. I can cut out tommorrow if youre hit and your guys are at the fun time drinking event. This is not me being nice, I'm still a dick, but a lot of you have guys out of state and I dont want you bitching about not having staff or wasting the hotel cost for your guys to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
You win the most confusing post of the day. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 8:03 PM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I really hate that black lives matter is automatically equated to black > people. Blm is a VERY small subset of an already small subset of the black > community. D

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I really hate that black lives matter is automatically equated to black people. Blm is a VERY small subset of an already small subset of the black community. Definetly not representative of the whole. And I'm a non apologetic racist, every one of my black or Mexican friends will verify this. Hopef

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread timothy steele
That phone has been on Engadget a few times most think it is a scam to get government funding.. LG G3 still the best phone ever made and can pick them up on eBay for around $50 if your looking for a budget phone On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 8:53 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Oh look, the Greeks went away and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oh look, the Greeks went away and left us this nice horse as a free gift. Let’s wheel it inside the gate. What could go wrong? From: Keefe John Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone I dont see how a phone could cost $4 even

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
This is used extensively by tower service companies working for the big-4 cellular carriers, or subcontractors thereof... It's not cheap: http://www.midwestunlimited.com/products/3Z-RF-Aligner-%252d-GPS-Antenna-Alignment-Tool.html As best I understand it doesn't use a magnetic compass, which is

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Rory Conaway
After all the crap about Trump supporters being violent, I’ve got a timeline about who did what when. The point is, MoveOn organized the protest a week in advance and Bill Ayers was involved in getting organizers into the event. After the event, Black Lives Matters moved in and started the vi

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Yeah or a peep sight of some kind. Two rings you can line up and look through. The airfibers have that hoist loop on top. Add another smaller one on the front top of the dish and there you go. -Ty On Mar 15, 2016 6:07 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > I wish sectors came with some kind of center line.

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Jay Weekley
I wish sectors came with some kind of center line. Preferably slightly raised. Edward Brooks wrote: Thanks everyone! This was enlightening. I have been using the "Cellular Industry" mindset due to tower construction and I have been trying to stay very accurate as far as azimuths to keep our

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Edward Brooks
Thanks everyone! This was enlightening. I have been using the "Cellular Industry" mindset due to tower construction and I have been trying to stay very accurate as far as azimuths to keep our coverage maps as accurate as possible and to keep from self-interfering with our other towers. -Ed

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Ty Featherling
I'll have to try that. We adopted TowerCoverage.com recently. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Towercoverage.com actually has a cool "vr" / camera android app for > alignment that works pretty well. > On Mar 15, 2016 5:00 PM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > >> Ditto

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Towercoverage.com actually has a cool "vr" / camera android app for alignment that works pretty well. On Mar 15, 2016 5:00 PM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > Ditto. Same for sectors or dishes. Most of the time on Backhauls I can see > the other side enough to recognize it through binoculars. If not I

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Ty Featherling
Ditto. Same for sectors or dishes. Most of the time on Backhauls I can see the other side enough to recognize it through binoculars. If not I use the Google Earth method there too. When done I use my phone to take a photo with the phone pressed against the top rear of the sector so that they are al

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Jeremy
We also eyeball it using Google Earth and landmarks. I can never get a compass to work reliably enough in the vicinity of the tower. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > What, you don't just assume the tower is level and use the notched degree > hash marks on the antenna vert

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Mathew Howard
No, I assume the tower is not level and do that anyway :P On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > What, you don't just assume the tower is level and use the notched degree > hash marks on the antenna vertical adjustment bolt? :P > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke >

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
What, you don't just assume the tower is level and use the notched degree hash marks on the antenna vertical adjustment bolt? :P On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > for sector antenna elevation, one of these... > > http://www.amazon.com/iGaging-AngleCube-Digital-Level-Bevel/dp/

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
for sector antenna elevation, one of these... http://www.amazon.com/iGaging-AngleCube-Digital-Level-Bevel/dp/B002LL0BIC If you've planned out coverage with an unusual uptilt or downtilt due to terrain (or built in electrical downtilt) and are giving the sector to a 3rd party installer to hang. O

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Never mind, you said sectors. Those you can guess at. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment I was working on an electronic version of my accu-aim scope a few years ago. I discovered that no matter how far I exte

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I was working on an electronic version of my accu-aim scope a few years ago. I discovered that no matter how far I extended the flux gate sensor, any tower of decent size threw it off. Best to use a hand held GPS at the base of the the tower and start walking. After a few tries you will fi

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
They should do that, give existing illegals 90 days to report. Then they help build the wall in exchange for the front of the line on legal immigration. No deportation unless declined On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > They figure if they're going to get stuck with the bill an

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

2016-03-15 Thread Bill Prince
They figure if they're going to get stuck with the bill anyway, why not use cheap(er) labor. bp On 3/15/2016 2:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: nice, but on the mexican side theyre already doing that On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Ryan Ray > wrote: https

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The bossman is there, be nice to him. Talk him into buying me pretty things On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:14 PM, Matt Hardy wrote: > Gino, we learn about our new products from you here on the list ;) > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Gino Villarini > wrote: > >> Any announcements? >> > > --

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
nice, but on the mexican side theyre already doing that On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Ryan Ray wrote: > https://media.giphy.com/media/3ornjHASZFGhBKoDYs/giphy.gif > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Deny deny deny >> On Mar 14, 2016 6:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >>

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Matt Hardy
Gino, we learn about our new products from you here on the list ;) On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Any announcements? >

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 I'm willing to bet that's the most common practice these days. I know an older guy who uses a compass and then he takes orange marking paint and draws an arrow in the grass. Honestly, it's not like the sector antenna has a rifle sight. It's basically dead reckoning no matter what you use

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
For AF24 alignment and similar (rooftop to rooftop) at the 4 to 5km range, you can tie a 2'x2' piece of cardboard spray painted orange to the far end AF24, while it's powered off, to help new or less experienced people acquire aim on the building. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Josh Reynolds wr

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
tie a string to the remote antenna, its the best way but if you do find a cood, affordable and reliable solution, let me know On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Edward Brooks wrote: > Anyone!!?? I watch posts about the strangest things go on in here and not > even one reply to a valid question?!

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Bill Prince
Absolutely. With this compass you really can't be within 5-10 feet of any large metallic object and expect good results. Walking 100' away from the tower and shooting a back azimuth is the way to go. However, it's usually good for 1 degree resolution if you know how to use it. bp On 3/15/2

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Darren Shea
Honestly, we just pull up Google Earth, draw a line from the tower with the proper heading and look for landmarks against which to aim for sectors and coarse adjustment of BHs. I don’t know if it’s any more accurate, but it’s definitely on the same cost plane as standing in a field. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Edward Brooks
Bill, have you had any issues with the tower itself causing "issues" with the compass? On 3/15/2016 2:51 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We use a Suunto precision compass for initial alignment (http://www.suunto.com/en-US/Products/Compasses/Suunto-Tandem/Suunto-Tandem-360PC-360R-G-Clino-Compass/). How

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Bill Prince
We use a Suunto precision compass for initial alignment (http://www.suunto.com/en-US/Products/Compasses/Suunto-Tandem/Suunto-Tandem-360PC-360R-G-Clino-Compass/). However, we will make adjustments based on signal levels we get at the subscriber end. bp On 3/15/2016 1:46 PM, Edward Brooks wro

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
We eyeball it. We look at a map, identify landmarks, and align based on that. For AF24 backhauls you can attach a scope on a rail to the side of it. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Edward Brooks wrote: > Anyone!!?? I watch posts about the strangest things go on in here and not > even one rep

Re: [AFMUG] AP Sector Alignment

2016-03-15 Thread Edward Brooks
Anyone!!?? I watch posts about the strangest things go on in here and not even one reply to a valid question?! On 3/10/2016 11:36 AM, Edward Brooks wrote: Over the last year our "low-cost" digital compass has degraded to the point of being unreliable and now useless. We have been looking at a

Re: [AFMUG] New Trango 24 ghz radio

2016-03-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Less expensive per link than a 1+0 configuration of the Stratalink 24 with 1', 2' or 3' dishes? That's their previous 24 GHz 1024QAM single polarity radio. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Joe Novak wrote: > I heard similar/better price then what is out now. > On Mar 15, 2016 2:53 PM, "Gino Vil

Re: [AFMUG] New Trango 24 ghz radio

2016-03-15 Thread Joe Novak
I heard similar/better price then what is out now. On Mar 15, 2016 2:53 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > https://www.trangosys.com/products/stratapro-series/ > > price? >

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hah :) On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > I think I’ll hold off upgrading until the Ansible model is released. > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > Velociter Wireless > > 209-838-1221 x115 > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Chris Wright
I think I’ll hold off upgrading until the Ansible model is released. Chris Wright Network Administrator Velociter Wireless 209-838-1221 x115 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any N

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
8gb via future firmware, and 2/3/5 ghz compatibility via future firmware On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Well, I admit the price does seem a little high, but I think we could deal > with that if it was a little faster... I just don't think that 4gbit/hz is > going to be

Re: [AFMUG] New Trango 24 ghz radio

2016-03-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ONE MILLION DOLLARS On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > https://www.trangosys.com/products/stratapro-series/ > > price? >

[AFMUG] New Trango 24 ghz radio

2016-03-15 Thread Gino Villarini
https://www.trangosys.com/products/stratapro-series/ price?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Does it involve theft and slave labor? On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I've got a business plan we should talk about... > On Mar 15, 2016 1:00 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > >> Steal the whole phone and sell it for $4? >> >> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Keefe John >>

Re: [AFMUG] "Attack on trump" video

2016-03-15 Thread Ryan Ray
https://media.giphy.com/media/3ornjHASZFGhBKoDYs/giphy.gif On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Deny deny deny > On Mar 14, 2016 6:37 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> Mea culpa >> On Mar 14, 2016 6:34 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: >> >>> I don't believe anything any of them sa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
I've got a business plan we should talk about... On Mar 15, 2016 1:00 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Steal the whole phone and sell it for $4? > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Keefe John > wrote: > >> I dont see how a phone could cost $4 even if it was built from stolen >> parts using slave l

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Steal the whole phone and sell it for $4? On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Keefe John wrote: > I dont see how a phone could cost $4 even if it was built from stolen > parts using slave labor. > > > On 3/15/2016 11:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > You can buy TWO of these phones for less than you c

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread Keefe John
I dont see how a phone could cost $4 even if it was built from stolen parts using slave labor. On 3/15/2016 11:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote: You can buy TWO of these phones for less than you can buy lunch. Heck, you could buy 100 of these phones, and save $300 off the price of 1 iphone. I don't ge

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, I admit the price does seem a little high, but I think we could deal with that if it was a little faster... I just don't think that 4gbit/hz is going to be enough. On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > That's crazy!! How can they expect anyone to pay $32 for an access p

[AFMUG] OT: The $4 Android phone....

2016-03-15 Thread Bill Prince
You can buy TWO of these phones for less than you can buy lunch. Heck, you could buy 100 of these phones, and save $300 off the price of 1 iphone. I don't get it. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/unboxing-video-reveals-wonders-4-android-phone-182430448.html -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Keefe John
Some fancy mimosa stuff. On 3/15/2016 10:48 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: Any announcements?

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Travis Johnson
That's crazy!! How can they expect anyone to pay $32 for an access point. If it was $29 I would order 1,000 of them right now. LOL Travis On 3/15/2016 9:50 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 4gbit/hz 900mhz systems full capacity 32 dollar access points 4 dollar cpe On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
We’re all going to be rich!! Hahahaha! From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica? 4gbit/hz 900mhz systems full capacity 32 dollar access points 4 dollar cpe On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Gino Vil

Re: [AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
4gbit/hz 900mhz systems full capacity 32 dollar access points 4 dollar cpe On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: > Any announcements? > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the t

[AFMUG] Any News from Wispamerica?

2016-03-15 Thread Gino Villarini
Any announcements?

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Uhm Alaska is behind you and would like a word :) On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jon Bruce wrote: > Also, Canada is bigger and on top, if this were prison, USA would be the > b**ch. > > > On 3/15/2016 10:55 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: >> >> I'm trying so hard to not respond ;) >> >> Canada would b

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

2016-03-15 Thread Jon Bruce
Also, Canada is bigger and on top, if this were prison, USA would be the b**ch. On 3/15/2016 10:55 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: I'm trying so hard to not respond ;) Canada would be the country that years ago invaded the US and burned down the White House ... my how times have changed! haha -O

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2016-03-15 Thread Bill Prince
But we're all happy with you Steve. ;-) bp On 3/15/2016 7:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I'm never happy with anybody, but that's not politics On Mar 15, 2016 9:06 AM, "Glen Waldrop" > wrote: I’ve been avoiding the list for the most part the past f

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

2016-03-15 Thread Paul Stewart
I'm trying so hard to not respond ;) Canada would be the country that years ago invaded the US and burned down the White House ... my how times have changed! haha -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:34 AM To

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2016-03-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
I think they make a pill for that... Damitol, I think it’s called... From: Ty Featherling Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] this list No that's genetics. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: I'm never happy

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
Well said. From: justsumname . Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? The difference between 1968 and now, is, Saul Alinksy had not written his book, telling his fellow rabble-rousers how to disrupt and destroy a political system

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
Well said. Gary Johnson might be close to that, but I haven't actually heard him speak, just read his stuff. I like the libertarian ideas, "We're going to take over the country and leave everyone the hell alone." -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Sunday, March 13, 20

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2016-03-15 Thread Ty Featherling
No that's genetics. -Ty -Ty On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm never happy with anybody, but that's not politics > On Mar 15, 2016 9:06 AM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > >> I’ve been avoiding the list for the most part the past few days

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2016-03-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I'm never happy with anybody, but that's not politics On Mar 15, 2016 9:06 AM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > I’ve been avoiding the list for the most part the past few days. > > Often I come here to read tech without getting into politics. > > There have been a few instances where it has gone too far,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?

2016-03-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
Heh, bass man... and I suck at it. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? And how many of us actually know how to play the banjo? Glen Waldrop wrote: For contrast, I’m in rural Alab

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2016-03-15 Thread Glen Waldrop
I’ve been avoiding the list for the most part the past few days. Often I come here to read tech without getting into politics. There have been a few instances where it has gone too far, though I think it was pulled back just in time. Everyone, just take a breath. We’re all on the same side. Tho

Re: [AFMUG] Antennas Behind Wood or Glass in Old Building?

2016-03-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Try to get a minimum of 2 wavelengths away and better up to 10. Past 10 you will have pattern distortion but the impedance and gain will be unaffected. Or, get as far as you can. If under 2 wavelengths expect weird behavior. From: Christopher Gray Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 10:43 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

2016-03-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
What's a Canada? On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Jon Bruce wrote: > Hockey stick for Canada? > > > On 3/14/2016 5:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Now do this with a Cricket bat for your overseas market in ZA, IN, PK, BD, > NZ, AU, UK... :-) > > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] Baseball bat vs PTP 650

2016-03-15 Thread Jon Bruce
Hockey stick for Canada? On 3/14/2016 5:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Now do this with a Cricket bat for your overseas market in ZA, IN, PK, BD, NZ, AU, UK... :-) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Josh Luthman mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Give me a couple 650 and a bat. I'

Re: [AFMUG] this list

2016-03-15 Thread Paul Stewart
Well said… I love to argue too – meaning all in good fun and often results in good constructive debate…. ;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] this list One thing I love about this list,