[AFMUG] bridgewave eagle 80ghz

Who is using it? Is it a good product? something better on the market? THX Daniel

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

If you could throw in some capital that would be nice too, I'm my bankers running joke, so your good advice is like a fresh kick to the teeth :-) On Aug 2, 2016 8:03 PM, "Jon Langeler" wrote: > Keep us occasionally posted on more of your picks if you could... > > Jon

Re: [AFMUG] B11

Greater total throughput, FDD, more spectral efficiency. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jon Langeler" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] B11

Any reason to go AlfoPlus over Mimosa 11? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 2, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > *nods* You have SIAE in the middle of the two as far as cost goes, but > similar capabilities.as the Ceragon radio. > > > > - >

Re: [AFMUG] Fitbit stock

Keep us occasionally posted on more of your picks if you could... Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 2, 2016, at 8:11 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > Well did anyone take my advice and buy Fitbit stock a month ago? You > could have made 8% just today... that's

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

How did the Purewave work for your NLOS customers versus Cambium PMP100 gear? Ken Hohhof wrote: So what are people using to replace their 3.65 WiMAX equipment like Cambium 320 and Purewave/Mercury? Is Bai Cells the answer? In any case, it seems like a forklift upgrade. I would like to say

[AFMUG] Fitbit stock

Well did anyone take my advice and buy Fitbit stock a month ago? You could have made 8% just today... that's 96% APR. :) Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

+1 for Radio Mobile. It has a bit of a learning curve, but you can have most of the items you wanted, sans the potential interference assessment. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > We have a basic system built into Towercoverage.com J > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] B11

*nods* You have SIAE in the middle of the two as far as cost goes, but similar capabilities.as the Ceragon radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jesse Dupont"

Re: [AFMUG] B11

We're in the process of licensing multiple 2x80MHz channels in 11GHz now. The Cambium PTP820 supports 1+ Gbps full duplex using 2x80MHz channels on 11GHz (in 2+0 config). It definitely costs more. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/2/16 14:05, Joe

Re: [AFMUG] Calix e7 cost?

I probably won't say from where now... :-) On Tuesday, August 2, 2016, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Ssshh :) > > On Aug 2, 2016 3:44 PM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote: > >> I've

Re: [AFMUG] Calix e7 cost?

Ssshh :) On Aug 2, 2016 3:44 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > I've never signed one and have gotten pricing. > > On Tuesday, August 2, 2016, can...@believewireless.net < > p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > >> Call them. You have to sign an NDA to get pricing.

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

The only time I have really seen the need is the larger diameter cable helps with longer runs of cable especially with POE. As others have said though I am starting especially on backhaul to do all fiber. It is cheaper easier to weatherproof. If it gets water in the jacket and you have it

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

We have a basic system built into Towercoverage.com ☺ [DennisBurgessSignature] www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 2,

Re: [AFMUG] B11

On 8/2/16 14:05, Joe Novak wrote: For some reason I thought that 80 MHz channels where coordinated as 2x40MHz channels (continuous). I am sure I read it somewhere... but I'm not so sure now. There's a table for 80MHz pairs in 47 CFR 101.147. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] B11

yep From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B11 Can’t get 80 MHz channels in the US at 11 GHz can you? From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, August 02,

Re: [AFMUG] CMM2 sync output to CMM Micro

As-in a standard Cable TV coax splitter? 3.5dB loss per port? Could you point me to a part #? On 8/2/2016 2:32 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: Doesn't answer your question, but we recently used a coax splitter to sync two CTM'2 together with one GPS antenna. Worked like a champ. On Tue, Aug 2,

Re: [AFMUG] B11

For some reason I thought that 80 MHz channels where coordinated as 2x40MHz channels (continuous). I am sure I read it somewhere... but I'm not so sure now. I found this in reference to when they started allowing 80 MHz channels in the US.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

LTE will nickel and dime you with licensing costs no matter who you buy it from. With Baicells it's a trickle of $/month/user. With Telrad it'll add up to something like $25/user* but only a one time expense (until you need to license more users). They both say they have to pay the 3GPP who

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

But if it was 1% of all the company purchases, the 1% would come back to the company, right? So unless it was for company travel I could get gigged on it in theory. I have the (probably mistaken) belief that burning company miles for personal use would probably be a safer way to cheat? From:

Re: [AFMUG] Calix e7 cost?

I've never signed one and have gotten pricing. On Tuesday, August 2, 2016, can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Call them. You have to sign an NDA to get pricing. > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] B11

The PHY is 1733 Mbps aggregate, so depending on the chosen window sizes, the top real world TCP speeds we’ve seen are between 1200-1300 Mbps aggregate (75/25 or 50/50 mode), or 600-650 Mbps symmetric (50/50). For 11 GHz this assumes high/low pairing of 80 MHz and both polarizations

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

We've been using Chase "Ink" business cards for a while now. I'm not sure of the % back but it's at least 1% on everything. You can choose from a bunch of options for rewards, a paper check, statement credit, gift cards and possibly some other choices. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] B11

Can’t get 80 MHz channels in the US at 11 GHz can you? From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B11 In an 80 MHz wide FDD channel (so actually 2 x 80 MHz, high and low), and both polarities, I believe so. It's a 256QAM 5/6 radio at its

Re: [AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

Not relevant to most of the list, but a local credit union that has a card with 1% cash back on everything. Paid once a year. I find that if you run enough money through it that 1% cash back lets you buy a "better" airline ticket using your own money, than something that earns miles which come

Re: [AFMUG] B11

In an 80 MHz wide FDD channel (so actually 2 x 80 MHz, high and low), and both polarities, I believe so. It's a 256QAM 5/6 radio at its best modulation and code rate, same as an Exalt ExtremeAir18 which is 1 Gbps full duplex in 80 MHz wide FDD both polarities. No getting around the shannon

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

When the polar icecaps melt and everything turns into Waterworld, we will be posting about reflections off water instead of flat cropland. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 3:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited yeah, but a guy with a good

[AFMUG] OT Same question with a twist

A few months ago we had a pretty good discussion about the best deals for credit cards. Today, I am looking for a better deal for company purchases. I like my Capital One Visa that gives good miles. I use the miles and like to store them up for my annual trips to England. But I figured I

[AFMUG] B11

Can the B11 do 1Gbps Symmetrical? If not what is best Symmetrical? Thanks

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

it would be really nice if Mimosa could do this with their cloud management system On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Brian Webster wrote: > Eric, > > You are correct on all points. My suggestion is to use > Radio Mobile, most of the time you can get the

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

yeah, but a guy with a good deal on towers for those who had insurance could make a killing On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: > The fires are clearing a lot of foliage away from the west right now... > Unfortunately it is also clearing away the houses

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

The fires are clearing a lot of foliage away from the west right now... Unfortunately it is also clearing away the houses that would have used said service... On 08/02/2016 01:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: 2.4FHSS was a different beast, for whatever reason at distance it penetrated

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

2.4FHSS was a different beast, for whatever reason at distance it penetrated better than 900mhz, maybe the higher power, maybe how the frequency hopping worked, I dont know. just sucks it was 1.5mbps. 900mhz failed 50% of the time where 320 would pick them up, and there were just some that only

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

So what are people using to replace their 3.65 WiMAX equipment like Cambium 320 and Purewave/Mercury? Is Bai Cells the answer? In any case, it seems like a forklift upgrade. I would like to say some other frequency band, but what? If not 900 MHz, it seems there is no unlicensed band that

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

Eric, You are correct on all points. My suggestion is to use Radio Mobile, most of the time you can get the premade antenna pattern files so you could run each sector or PTP link properly. Then with each sector or link run I would set up a separate folder in Google Earth for

Re: [AFMUG] Calix e7 cost?

Call them. You have to sign an NDA to get pricing. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > whats is the avg price of a e7 olt ? >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

one of the documents i was reading said 20% throughput loss from extended range, thats what i was asking about real word experience from, 320 documentation across the board was always questionable. I would love to not use it, but 320 was the (dont start the penetration argument) only thing at

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Probably will work with cat3 On 8/2/2016 9:38 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Belden 1588A. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Chuck McCown > wrote: I need some cat5 in 1-2 pair only. Need a physically smaller cable and only 100 Mbps

Re: [AFMUG] CMM2 sync output to CMM Micro

Doesn't answer your question, but we recently used a coax splitter to sync two CTM'2 together with one GPS antenna. Worked like a champ. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: > We have an old CMM2 at a site and want to add a CMM Micro to the mix to >

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

See attached link budget sheet. Back in the day, 5%-8% capacity loss was the number thrown around with extended range enabled. IMO, disable extended range and deny those distance subs. You'll increase your overall capacity as a result. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:05 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

I last research this a couple of years ago, and I really hope somebody can tell me I'm wrong here, but I think you'll run into a few things: a) the serious software that is available is $ and assumes you are a major mobile phone carrier like T-Mobile or AT b) software that does not cost a

Re: [AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

I'm also interested in this. The only suggestion I got before was the obvious one. Plot coverage maps for each antenna and see where they overlap. I'm sure software exists -- Original Message -- From: "SmarterBroadband" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/2/2016

[AFMUG] CMM2 sync output to CMM Micro

We have an old CMM2 at a site and want to add a CMM Micro to the mix to add AP's. Instead of using a second GPS antenna, can I use one of the old CMM2's sync ports to output sync to a CMM Micro (set to slave mode) via the AUX port?

[AFMUG] Frequency Planning / Coordination software

Anyone know of any software out there that we could enter all our Sites Backhauls AP's Frequencies sector directions and beam widths and it would show possible interference? We are getting so many towers now that 5 GHz planning is getting more and more difficult. Trying to keep

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited

at 10mhz we get 40 eirp correct? Anyone using the extended range know how much real world sector capacity loss we have? is the aggregate with loss on 10mhz going to be less than the throughput at 7mhz? On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > Yes, but there

[AFMUG] Calix e7 cost?

whats is the avg price of a e7 olt ?

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

I have hundreds to do, but they are temporary. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 10:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5 If this is a one-off project, why not just measure what you need and go to a home store that carries indoor/outdoor telephone cable by

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mikrotik SFP+

I get SFP+ SMF modules from fiberstore.com and they all seem to work fine in the variations of Mikrotik. You can get them operationally matched as Cisco as an option when buying them. The Mikrotik shouldn’t care. They are about $70 each, or about $140 a pair plus about $50 shipping from fiber

Re: [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA?

The first lift truck. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 6:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA? Changing street lamps 1910's style. Rory Conaway . Triad Wireless . CEO 4226 S. 37th Street .

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mikrotik SFP+

Eric, I have no problem with going single mode. Are you suggesting the Mikrotik S+31DLC10D or a different one? Also, are there any compatibility issues between a 3rd party SFP and a Mikrotik CCR-1036? Thank you for your prompt reply to what is probably a very simple issue. Gilbert On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Mikrotik SFP+

That is an 850nm SX multimode for use with 50/125 OM3 or OM4 MM cable. But before you start buying multimode I suggest you just put a 1310nm LX singlemode SFP+ in both ends, as they are like $36 a piece these days. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <

[AFMUG] OT Mikrotik SFP+

I need to setup a short 100ft 10G link between my Mikrotik and a Cisco device. I was looking at the Mikrotik S+85DLC03D for the Mikrotik. Does anyone know the equivalent for the Cisco side? I know 1G SFPs come in flavors like SX, LX, BX, ZX..., but know nothing of 10G. Gilbert

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

Agreed. I'm just using ToughCable until the gear I use starts accepting SFPs. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] Anyone Installing Cat6 / really thick Cat5e?

Chris, I am using the Shireen Double Shielded Cat6 on my towers and really like it. We use the following connector. Platinum Tools 106190. We are using our standard crimps with it and have had no problems with the cable certifying correctly first time. The crimps are the standard ones from

Re: [AFMUG] NAT64

In what quantity, for a /24, a /22, a /20? Huge difference in pricing between 'buying' by the individual /24 or something much larger. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > We have seen it go from $1 to $10 per IP since April. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds

[AFMUG] UBNT Airprism sectors?

Anyone tested the UBNT Airprism sectors? Need some density in a site and was planning on using them with EPMP radios – GPS sync should help with the tight spacing

Re: [AFMUG] NAT64

Yes, and reasonable predictions I have seen are between $40-$60 per. Some claim $100-200 per, depending on how businesses, software devs, AWS, etc react. On Aug 2, 2016 8:37 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > We have seen it go from $1 to $10 per IP since April. > > *From:* Josh

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

If this is a one-off project, why not just measure what you need and go to a home store that carries indoor/outdoor telephone cable by the foot? Even if it was ancient quad wire (I hope they don’t still sell that), it shouldn’t matter if the only other thing in that conduit is fiber, since

Re: [AFMUG] Buying a COW? Where?

I worked late and took wife to dinner. Try looking for Glen Martin telescoping systems used or military surplus. Easy to build one your self... Trailer, angle, unistrut and three sections of model 30 tower from epcom with base and top. Tower sections are light.Build a cross beam towards

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Outdoors in conduit. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5 Does it need to be OSP, or is this indoors? Maybe cross-connect cable without a jacket (like this:

Re: [AFMUG] Buying a COW? Where?

Found it .. https://solaristechnologies.com/tough-tower/ On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > There is a company in the Dallas area who was at Wispapolooza a few years > ago ... Solvaris or something like that, who makes them. They had one at > the show. > >

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Yeah, it is replacing a drop from a handhole to a house. Using the old drop to pull in a fiber and something copper to keep the POTS line going until we can cut in the fiber. Jumper wire would probably work. No shield. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:54 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Does it need to be OSP, or is this indoors? Maybe cross-connect cable without a jacket (like this: http://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Cat3-Telephone-Wire-Cable/XCONNECT1PRBL?gclid=CPyorOr-os4CFZFufgodrl0F2Q)? bp On 8/2/2016 7:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

If you only need 1 pair and it doesn’t have to be jacketed, most electrical supply places like Graybar have CO crossconnect wire in Cat3. You can also get Cat5 like this: https://www.siemon.com/e-catalog/ECAT_GI_page.aspx?GI_ID=mpc_category-5e-cross-connect-wire When I used to do a lot of work

Re: [AFMUG] Buying a COW? Where?

There is a company in the Dallas area who was at Wispapolooza a few years ago ... Solvaris or something like that, who makes them. They had one at the show. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I have built a few custom trailers with tilt up towers. > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Yeah, I am thinking perhaps cat3. It will have DSL on it. Maybe even jumper wire. From: Justin Wilson Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5 Sounds like you need cat-3? If you need physically small cable there are several folks who make

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Sounds like you need cat-3? If you need physically small cable there are several folks who make very small patch cables up to 70 some feet. Even flat cable. Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Thanks, that ought to work, but not much in cost savings. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:38 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5 Belden 1588A. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I need some cat5 in 1-2

Re: [AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

Belden 1588A. On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I need some cat5 in 1-2 pair only. Need a physically smaller cable and > only 100 Mbps max. Anyone ever heard of such a thing? > -- *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* Tel:

Re: [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA?

yeah, looks fine to me! On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > He’s got a safety rail, sheesh! > > *From:* Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:29 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA? > >

[AFMUG] 1 pair cat 5

I need some cat5 in 1-2 pair only. Need a physically smaller cable and only 100 Mbps max. Anyone ever heard of such a thing?

Re: [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA?

Just needs some cones and a hardhat and he’ll be “aright” . :-) Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric > On Aug 2, 2016, at 9:29

Re: [AFMUG] Buying a COW? Where?

I have built a few custom trailers with tilt up towers. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying a COW? Where? No One has any input? Jeez, the Tecate must been deep last night! On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Buying a COW? Where?

No One has any input? Jeez, the Tecate must been deep last night! On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I know a guy who has a really nice army surplus unit. Not sure where he > got it, but maybe if you know somebody in the business of surplus army >

Re: [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA?

He’s got a safety rail, sheesh! From: Rory Conaway Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 7:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA? Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] NAT64

We have seen it go from $1 to $10 per IP since April. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 7:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NAT64 I could also argue here that ipv4 pricing is still continuing to rise, and will do so for the foreseeable future. Buying it now will

[AFMUG] Think this one gets by OSHA?

[Changing street lamps 1910's style.] Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net

Re: [AFMUG] IRR

Very much prefer RADB from a user’s perspective - works very well and their support is awesome… RADB mirrors all of the other registries (ARIN being one example). > On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > Lots of major carriers use Merit RAdb (not free). They

Re: [AFMUG] NAT64

For what it’s worth, acquiring more IPv4 space is much preferred…. if you figure $8-$10 per subscriber when purchasing the IP blocks (assuming that’s needed) then perhaps increase your installation charge by $10 to absorb that cost? Dual stack is truly the best solution hands down … everything