Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

3-4 weeks was the usual turn around time for dragonwave. SAF has a location in Denver, CO so if I really had to I could drive over the mtn and pick up a radio. Or they can next day ship one to me. -Sean On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 8/2/17

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

On 8/2/17 6:40 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: We had about 6 horizon compact plus units that all had currupted software. They would suddenly stop working and then would fail to reboot because the boot image was currupted. Had to send them all back to Canada to get fixed. Some were in warranty but

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

8, 10 ,12 foot for 6 GHz (used) sitting in Uvalde Texas Bet the would be priced right??? Rory did you ever call on them? Mitch On 8/2/2017 2:52 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: I’ll check and see what a 4’ might do. That would be reasonable. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

I will say, I really like the UBNT ONT, and I've been thinking of offering it as a premium option because of the display. Having the ability to show usage easily is very nice. I just feel UBNT missed the price mark here, and missed the opportunity to do something big like ngpon2 with 40gb/s

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

Like I suggested, it does require attention... better be safe than sorry...but I do enjoy your style Steve...BTW..as soon as wife makes Tamales I will send you a dozen .. Jaime Solorza On Aug 2, 2017 7:36 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > GFI simply looks at the current going out on

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

We had about 6 horizon compact plus units that all had currupted software. They would suddenly stop working and then would fail to reboot because the boot image was currupted. Had to send them all back to Canada to get fixed. Some were in warranty but many were out of warranty and we had to pay

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

They had the catbird seat when they sold those bazillion units to that company that put them up nationwide. Don’t remember the name, clearlink or something. They cratered and got bought by Sprint I think. DW had more money than God after that transaction but the squandered in a huge facility

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

GFI simply looks at the current going out on the hot wire and the current coming back on the neutral. If the currents are not identical, the little transformer they pass through creates an output voltage that trips the unit. The transformer is wired such that the two currents cancel each

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

I dont know what actually is happening when a leg is out at a grain elevator that drops to the 60-80, something at the transformer i assume. This is the site i went to swap a ptp500 to a 650 last week and broke their manlift, this site and i have history, will probably be where i die, i made

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

Hum...have several dozen Dragonwave 11GHz links here and in Midland for hospitals and law enforcement...very reliable and support has always been excellent. Interesting comment. Jaime Solorza On Aug 2, 2017 6:45 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: That's what happens when

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

I see 60-80VAC at grain sites all the time when a phase is out. Pain in the ass. The GFI recept on the gen could just be going bad. Could also be something as simple as noise/surge suppression in your UPS causing it. I wouldn't worry about it. On 8/2/2017 7:12 PM, Steve Jones wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

That's what happens when you're not competitive and put most of your eggs in the cell co basket. On 8/2/2017 6:20 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: plus dragonwave is based in Canada (nothing against Canadians!) so when you have warranty or repair issues everything has to go through US customs which

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

Zero is where it needs to beloop suggestion can lead to problems...GFI is required because of location I assume? Jaime Solorza On Aug 2, 2017 6:12 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Millivolts not amps > > On Aug 2, 2017 7:08 PM, "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

Millivolts not amps On Aug 2, 2017 7:08 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Milliamps. But its a brownout/power outage > > On Aug 2, 2017 6:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > > Did it read zero? If not , have that checked...we spent all morning with >

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

If floating your ground alleviates the symptoms, a small voice inside my head is telling me you’ve got a ground loop somewhere. That can cause weird stuff in sensitive electronics and was the bane of my past life in the AV world. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

Milliamps. But its a brownout/power outage On Aug 2, 2017 6:57 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Did it read zero? If not , have that checked...we spent all morning with engineers, electricians and us chasing a weird diesel generator to UPS issue...Fluke meters galore...

Re: [AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

Did it read zero? If not , have that checked...we spent all morning with engineers, electricians and us chasing a weird diesel generator to UPS issue...Fluke meters galore... Jaime Solorza On Aug 2, 2017 5:51 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > At a grain elevator right now,

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

Just plain math the radio with the highest qam wins From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" > Date: Monday, July 31, 2017 at

[AFMUG] Gfi kicking on portable generator

At a grain elevator right now, brownout type issue, 60v some places none at others. Not our chair, not our problem, except our portable generator gfi trips every time the cutover switch engages. We ended up just bypassing the cutover and only wiring phase and neutral to the generator outlet,

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

plus dragonwave is based in Canada (nothing against Canadians!) so when you have warranty or repair issues everything has to go through US customs which can delay things for a Lnn time. 2 cents -sean On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 4:43 PM, John Seaman

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

Trango Apex Lynx is between 486Mbps - 761Mbps FDX, depending on packet size. You can also get a combiner and run two of them on one dish. On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Hardy, Tim wrote: > Understand that - not an FCC issue - a frequency congestion issue. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

Dragonwave is looking a little dicey http://www.obj.ca/index.php/article/dragonwave-directors-resign-firm-delisted-tsx From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Max BW on a 6 GHz 60 Mhz wide channel

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

Get those pucks outa here! bp On 8/2/2017 2:06 PM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: Update. Looks like I had 2 bad pucks out of the box. Replaced them with what I think is the older pucks and they have been working fine for a few days. I am sending cambium the bad pucks.

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

Try putting them in the freezer before you attempt to use them. http://www.currentzionsville.com/2014/01/07/why-they-freeze-hockey-pucks/ From: Craig Schmaderer Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues Update. Looks like I had

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP1000 GPS Antenna Issues

Update. Looks like I had 2 bad pucks out of the box. Replaced them with what I think is the older pucks and they have been working fine for a few days. I am sending cambium the bad pucks. From: Af on behalf of Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

I’ll check and see what a 4’ might do. That would be reasonable. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Hardy, Tim Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 12:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link And good luck finding one – none made for years. From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

And good luck finding one – none made for years. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Not only that, the beamwidth would make them impossible to aim. From: Chris Wright

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

Not only that, the beamwidth would make them impossible to aim. From: Chris Wright Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 1:17 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link 8’ dishes are stupid-big for a 10 mile link on 18GHz. What kind of speeds are you trying to push? Chris Wright

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

8’ dishes are stupid-big for a 10 mile link on 18GHz. What kind of speeds are you trying to push? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

It's funny to me that I was just on FS.com the other day and I saw they sell attenuators and I thought to myself, why on earth would you want to attenuate the signal? Now I know. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > To

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

listserv must have scraped off the attachment From: Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 11:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question For the record that data is derived from the National Land Cover Dataset (NLCD). That data is built using satellite and aerial data

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

H My choices would be as follows:- 11Ghz (2ft Dishes) .(depending on how much spectrum is available.. I would do B11 (to grab channel) or AF11 if you have to squeeze out a channel ..check the spec's it is very interesting to note on what it can do on narrower channels ) 6Ghz

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

For the record that data is derived from the National Land Cover Dataset (NLCD). That data is built using satellite and aerial data and classifies the ground clutter for each 30 meter square. Roger converted that data to a format similar to the SRTM file format so that Radio Mobile can read and

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

To clarify, there is no real intelligent attenuation on any optical product I have ever seen. Some can do a 2-3db depending on the product, but it's never really a truly intelligent system with bidirectional communication between the optics to negotiate power levels. I may be wrong but this is

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

How could they? TX and RX are different optic sources. You might have a TX power level much higher on one end than the other due to manufacturing differences or different equipment. On Aug 2, 2017 12:10 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" wrote: > Hmmm, that's not good if it can't

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

It just all depends on the SFPs you're using. Check their spec sheets. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

The bidi SFPs that I'm using have tolerances high enough that they can be connected with a 3ft patch cable with no issues. I don't think there is any auto-attenuation going on though. On Wednesday, August 2, 2017, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Hmmm, that's not good if it

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

Hmmm, that's not good if it can't auto-attenuate down. Sounds like they need to fix that. Most of my SMF lasers and links are short and 'hot', but doesn't seem to bother anything I'm currently using. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

Yeah, each optical interface has a different maximum and minimum operational range. You should be able to find that rating in SFP/SFP+ docs, ONT/OLT docs, etc. It pays to keep a stock of some -6dB or -9dB pluggable attenuators on hand. You'll need them when you go to install subs too. On Aug 2,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON

I need to print a retraction here. I have been talking to Martin at UBNT and he shows me the error of my ways. I do not have a 50% failure rate. In fact, it's a 0% failure rate. My signal was just too hot. I'm new to the SM Fiber game, so I'm learning as I go. I didn't realize the signal could

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

Perfect, thanks. From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question In Mobile Radio under Internet Options. Land cover can be downloaded from the internet and saved locally. I have mine pointing to "Landcover - Site 2" which

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

In Mobile Radio under Internet Options. Land cover can be downloaded from the internet and saved locally. I have mine pointing to "Landcover - Site 2" which is http://www.ve2dbe.com/geodata/landcover/ On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > The last I

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

My 10 mile Dragonwave links had 3 footers I think. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Use a pair of B5cs with RD-34 dishes with RF Armor shield kits, I’d be shocked if you can’t get 100Mbps without disrupting

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

The last I remember getting data for something similar it came from NASA. This might be a place to start: https://data.giss.nasa.gov/landuse/ If you do a google for NASA land search you get a few thiings that might help. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:17 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > But

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

Use a pair of B5cs with RD-34 dishes with RF Armor shield kits, I’d be shocked if you can’t get 100Mbps without disrupting anything else. I just checked a 10 mile 18GHz link in Arizona and they wanted me to use 8’ dishes. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

Yeah, I have used 18 GHz out to 10 miles before in Utah. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link Seems like a waste. 11 GHz is ripe for four miles. In a dry climate, 18 GHz would work as well. - Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

But where does the data come from? Seems like Roger was giving it away one year at AnimalFarm. I probably got a disk but I doubt I could ever find it. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 6:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question Thats an option you select

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

11ghz on small 2 foot antennas is perfect, but youll probably end up with more channel than you need for 100mb, but better to be futureproofed than to be bottlenecked in a year On Aug 2, 2017 8:34 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" wrote: > Where in the US will it be located? > > 18

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

Where in the US will it be located? 18 or 11 are your most likely bets. You could also look at 3.65 or 2.4 PTP. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Aug 2, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Eric Rogers

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

certainly. but seems a little waste full. that's really the sweet spot for 18 On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > What about 6 GHz? > > Adair Winter wrote: > >> Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking >> If you can't do 5 (and you probably

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

Seems like a waste. 11 GHz is ripe for four miles. In a dry climate, 18 GHz would work as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jay Weekley" To:

[AFMUG] OT...time to update resume'?

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Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

What about 6 GHz? Adair Winter wrote: Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on DFS or UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers

Re: [AFMUG] Stranger Things ....

Ok. Will try firmware first. Thx Jaime Solorza On Aug 1, 2017 9:38 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > We have seen weird issues with Toughswitches, most the 8-port versions > under heavy load. If it continues, try reloading the firmware first. If > that doesn’t work, try

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

2.4ghz or 3.65ghz if you're far from civilization and no one else on those sites is using those. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: > I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over 100M. I > fear that 5GHz will be out because of all

Re: [AFMUG] Four Mile Link

Forget 24, 60, 80Ghz if that's what you're thinking If you can't do 5 (and you probably can if you think you can pull on DFS or UNII-1) than 11 and 11ghz are about your only options. On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Eric Rogers wrote: > I need a link that is capable of

[AFMUG] Four Mile Link

I need a link that is capable of 4.25 miles, and something over 100M. I fear that 5GHz will be out because of all the used spectrum, but wanted to ask what are my options? Eric Rogers www.pdsconnect.me (317) 831-3000 x200