[AFMUG] Commscope/Andres antenna with mimosa

we have VHLP3-11W and VHLP4-11W with SAF radios hung on them. We have a quote to go 2+0 on them that's much more than a mimosa solution. mimosa "supposedly" can give us more throughput. is there an adapter to hang a mimosa b11 on these antennas? I prefer SAF, we haven't had any issues that were

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

You were supposed to get a can of holy Tecate from Jaime to bless it. Or maybe you drink it and then piss on the plant. I forget. On 8/7/2017 8:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote: so, one of my habanero plants has zero capsaicin, like none. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Justin Wilson

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

It identifies as a bell pepper. You need to be more understanding. I was born that way. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 7:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX so, one of my habanero plants has zero capsaicin, like none. On Mon, Aug 7,

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

so, one of my habanero plants has zero capsaicin, like none. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: > Thank you Mitch! > > Being one of the owners or MidWest-IX I wanted to address this then > someone please kill this thread. > > > 1.I am not sure who Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

I have the same experience as Brett. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Brett A Mansfield < li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote: > I have a 1500M link that is currently at 4 9's using the 35cm model. I get > about 1Gb throughput including overhead. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On Aug 7,

Re: [AFMUG] Industrial UPS

I might do exactly that. The AC UPS's are all either too big or the wrong device. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2017 7:56:13 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Industrial UPS Yeah I realized what that Phoenix was after I posted.

Re: [AFMUG] Industrial UPS

Yeah I realized what that Phoenix was after I posted. Why u no buy switches with DC, bro? . ducking I've been mostly happy with the Planet MGSW-28240F switches we're using for some FTTx stuffs. They have a single AC and dual DC. Haven't even bothered with DC yet, because they're probably

Re: [AFMUG] Industrial UPS

Not quite. That Phoenix contact model is unusual for industrial units in that it's AC in and AC out. There's an APC model which is just as expensive and includes a huge 5ah battery and no external connector. I was hoping for something smallish that takes external batteries, is fit to live

Re: [AFMUG] Industrial UPS

Never bought one, but... https://www.alliedelec.com/altech-corp-cbi4810a/70236451/ On 8/7/2017 6:01 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I like the looks ofthis Phoenix Contact UPS,

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Inches/year means nothing for 55-85 GHz links... Seattle gets a ton of rain and some coastal areas or places where the clouds are trapped by mountains a lot more (Lynn Valley, North Vancouver BC for example). But all are only in rain zone D. It's the frequency of instances of certain figure, N,

[AFMUG] Industrial UPS

I like the looks of this Phoenix Contact UPS,

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

I think Dave is just being trolled, him being such an unremittent Moto/Cambium apologist. On 8/7/2017 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I certainly don’t mind if more join our party, as long as they behave themselves... *From:* Joe Novak *Sent:* Monday, August 07, 2017 1:50 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Metrolinq gents responded quickly...too far. I appreciate honest answers...I will definitely look at them for shorter links. Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 3:59 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Annual rainfall 9.69 inches a year...we get most of it July through August.

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Annual rainfall 9.69 inches a year...we get most of it July through August. Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 2:43 PM, "Carl Peterson" wrote: > Are you really in zone F? Isn't most of Texas in M? Not that it makes a > big difference. 1.9 miles isn't reasonable > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX

Thank you Mitch! Being one of the owners or MidWest-IX I wanted to address this then someone please kill this thread. 1.I am not sure who Eric Kuhnke is. We have never had dealings with him nor have I ever spoken to him except on Facebook. Not sure what got under his skin but he has a

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

The WISPA AMS sent bad files to the listserv, again. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > "I fucking did you asshole. .. take me off this spam shit list." > > "Fuck off... stop email to this addressdumb shit" > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

" I fucking did you asshole. .. take me off this spam shit list." " Fuck off... stop email to this addressdumb shit" - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett"

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

I doubt if you'd even be able to get Metrolinqs to connect to eachother at 1.9miles. They have integrated antennas, so 2' dishes aren't an option (not that 2' dishes would be enough to make it work anyway). There are lots of things that can do 100Mbps on that short of a link though... in that

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

What's the short version of what they were arguing about? Pop vs Soda? -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2017 4:04:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa There was quite an interesting conversation there yesterday. Lots of

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

I have a 1500M link that is currently at 4 9's using the 35cm model. I get about 1Gb throughput including overhead. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield > On Aug 7, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Still wouldn't do it... 60 GHz with 2ft/60cm dishes is good for

Re: [AFMUG] DW shutsdown

Does anyone know what is the technical issue that stopped their Indian sales? On Aug 3, 2017 8:41 AM, "Gino A. Villarini" wrote: > http://www.rcrwireless.com/20170803/business/backhaul- > firm-dragonwave-enters-receivership-tag17 > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President >

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Are you really in zone F? Isn't most of Texas in M? Not that it makes a big difference. 1.9 miles isn't reasonable On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Still wouldn't do it... 60 GHz with 2ft/60cm dishes is good for 900-1100 > meters max in rain zone

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

Let me guess, you just kept saying to add an SFP slot? ducking.. On 8/7/2017 3:04 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: There was quite an interesting conversation there yesterday. Lots of swearing. Actually, today I'm seeing unsubscribe notices from all kinds of WISPA e-mail lists. - Mike

Re: [AFMUG] DW shutsdown

Seven plus years ago, Bridgewave had a pretty decent http GUI (basic, but everything important to get a link up and monitored/managed in RFC1918 IP space) for the GE80 80GHz product. It's not rocket science. On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Ha, yea.

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Still wouldn't do it... 60 GHz with 2ft/60cm dishes is good for 900-1100 meters max in rain zone D with high reliability where you can actually treat it like a fiber cable, and it won't drop out except in truly exceptional rainstorms. In the five nines per year statistical range. 1100 meters =

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna tower engineering

Rohn has been Rohn out of Peoria, IL again for several years now. No, I don't think they'll do engineering for free. Maybe on a multi-site project using all new steel. Hit them up and see I guess. On 8/7/2017 2:50 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Having not ever worked near the gulf coast, I need to

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna tower engineering

For even a very small self supporter you need to go down more than 3'. Just bought a Trylon Supertitan KD (model H710) 60' and the total excavation depth is about 6' for pad+pier. Ten cubic yards concrete. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I think the

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna tower engineering

I think the whole are is about 3 feet above a swamp. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 2:07 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna tower engineering The main issue is water table... depending where you are, once you put a shovel in ground water seeps in.. Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] fusion splicer recommendations?

We recently got brand new Fujikura 12S Kit #2 for $3200. From a vendor, not ebay. -- Original Message -- From: "Rob Genovesi" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2017 4:01:39 PM Subject: [AFMUG] fusion splicer recommendations? found some info on the list but it was

Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

Hmmm I am not a Linux guy. Will have to take a look. It looks like there is a windows version but it needs a few things loaded first. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:24 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna tower engineering

The main issue is water table... depending where you are, once you put a shovel in ground water seeps in.. Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 1:51 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Having not ever worked near the gulf coast, I need to put up some small > towers just tall enough to reach

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

There was quite an interesting conversation there yesterday. Lots of swearing. Actually, today I'm seeing unsubscribe notices from all kinds of WISPA e-mail lists. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Not enough choice in rate plans in the google section. And they did not cover everyone. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:59 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs Sure, but why/how/which part is substandard?

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

Ya soglasen tovarishch Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 1:53 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > I certainly don’t mind if more join our party, as long as they behave > themselves... > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Monday, August 07, 2017 1:50 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

[AFMUG] fusion splicer recommendations?

found some info on the list but it was about 2 years ago so I thought I'd ping again and see if there's any new info out there. Looking for recommendations on the E-bay variety fusion splicers (ie: $3-5k) - wondering what people have tried and liked? IE the Eloik ALK-88

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Sure, but why/how/which part is substandard? Jared > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs > > iProvo sold out (gave the system away) to Google. Still substandard. > > -Original

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

200 km from the international space station to a resupply ship. I am sure it works at 200 km. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles Yes, absolutely agreed, just as much as people who believe the "up to 200 km"

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

True, but it would be nice to have the real, up to date data and projections on all the projects. Jared > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 > From: "Chuck McCown" > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs > > Well in the case of UTOPIA, it has been

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Friend asking with 2 ft dishes Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 1:45 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > 1.9 miles 60 GHz with those tiny antennas? > > I wouldn't even try that distance with the Bridgewave 60 GHz product with > 60cm dishes on both ends in rain zone C... Forget

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

Yes, absolutely agreed, just as much as people who believe the "up to 200 km" claims on Ubiquiti marketing materials, they will be disappointed with reality vs. marketing material claims from 80 GHz PTP vendors. When it gets down to the level of sales engineers who can predict nines of uptimes for

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

I certainly don’t mind if more join our party, as long as they behave themselves... From: Joe Novak Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa Apparently the entire world is considering how many hits the thread had this morning. Trina has

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Well in the case of UTOPIA, it has been running a long time. And the numbers are regularly published out here. It is a financial mess for certain. Not much wiggle room in the facts of the situation. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:50 PM

[AFMUG] Antenna tower engineering

Having not ever worked near the gulf coast, I need to put up some small towers just tall enough to reach over the trees. The trees appear to be perhaps 50 feet tall. I presume this is zone C. Does Rohn (or whoever owns them now) do that kind of engineering for free? I really don’t want to

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

Apparently the entire world is considering how many hits the thread had this morning. Trina has been helping resolve this, from what I know. Joe On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Dave wrote: > Is anyone else getting emails from the ubnt_users List when they never >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

I've also read rebuttals and critiques of that same report, all without adding too much clarity to the issue. For sure the report has some shortfalls and errors, but the whole thing is turning more or less into a he said, she said mess. It'd be real nice to have a proper long term analysis

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

Just not seeing the application for a product that had no rain fade margin. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles Elva-1 just installed a demo link in NYC which is about 2 miles, roof to roof, for their new 10

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

Nothing that sticks out. From: Dave Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:46 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa Is anyone else getting emails from the ubnt_users List when they never opted to be on the list?? --

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

Elva-1 just installed a demo link in NYC which is about 2 miles, roof to roof, for their new 10 Gbps product. On a clear sunny day 80 GHz products will link at ridiculous distances like 9-10 miles but have basically no fain fade margin whatsoever. On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 9:52 PM,

[AFMUG] ubnt_users@wispa

Is anyone else getting emails from the ubnt_users List when they never opted to be on the list?? --

Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq question

1.9 miles 60 GHz with those tiny antennas? I wouldn't even try that distance with the Bridgewave 60 GHz product with 60cm dishes on both ends in rain zone C... Forget F. 100 Mbps at 1.9 miles seems like a good fit for two AF5X with the smallest dishes, does it have to be 60 for some reason?

[AFMUG] Metrolinq question

Can these 60Ghz do 100 mbps at 1.9 miles in my area? Zone F Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

I don't know how much of that is marketing bullshit, but Elva has a news item up on their website where they claim to have installed a 6.3 mile production link in Moscow. Jared     Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

there's a tcptraceroute tool available for Linux. apt-get install tcptraceroute on Debian type systems -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/7/2017 3:22:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool I don’t think you can. I

Re: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

I don’t think you can. I would try ping or telnet along with tracert to prove some ports work. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool Anyone know of any tool that can do a trace route with a port number?

[AFMUG] Trace Route by port tool

Anyone know of any tool that can do a trace route with a port number? We have an issue where micro cells have stopped working on some our network. They use some specific ports. I want to Trace Route out and see where a specific port is being blocked. Is this possible?

Re: [AFMUG] Syncbox 12 and 900Mhz 450i

SBJ aux seems to work fine. Haven't seen anything that would make me believe our 900 450i is out of sync. I do have one site with a Rev i SB 12. 4x90 FSK cluster and a single 900 450i sector on it. The 450i is on a 5MHz channel. 17 SMs registered. Most running 6X MIMO-B. A couple 8X. A couple

[AFMUG] Syncbox 12 and 900Mhz 450i

I have a customer who is having problems reusing frequencies at multiple sites with a syncbox 12. This particular customer is stating that switching to a sync over power solution works, but using a syncbox does not at these sites. Or more accurately at any of his sites. These are 450i 900Mhz

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Here is the study: https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/6611-report-municipal-fiber-in-the-united-states-an Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102    -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT Eclipse

Don't forget to wear your amulet with a safety pin near your tummy if you are pregnant...not sure if this a Mexican wives tale or same in other cultures... Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 10:11 AM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > Why you are very wise to use a video imager...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

iProvo sold out (gave the system away) to Google. Still substandard. -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 11:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs That's interesting. Can you share more details about being a service

Re: [AFMUG] OT Eclipse

Why you are very wise to use a video imager... This actually came from personal experience where I used a "solar rated" neutral density filter with my telescope can came very close to burning out an eye when it fractured... On 08/06/2017 03:56 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: At the least it's

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

Hey, now... according to Siklu's link budget calculator, at 12 miles in e-band, you could get 99% availability! Okay, yeah... I'm a little sceptical that you could even get that... and that is at 2Gbps, not 10. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:13 AM, David Milholen wrote: > I dont

Re: [AFMUG] OT Municipally funded ISPs

Is the bottom line the fact that there isn't an actual person or persons that will lose a whole lot of money if it doesn't work out? Seems like people are real ambitious when playing with other peoples money. Sterling Jacobson wrote: I agree with that. The numbers never added up. iProvo

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

Elva is what Solectek uses Jaime Solorza On Aug 7, 2017 6:14 AM, "David Milholen" wrote: > I dont think thats an assumption at all :) > > > > On 8/7/2017 5:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > That'll go about 2 miles, I assume. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

I dont think thats an assumption at all :) On 8/7/2017 5:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: That'll go about 2 miles, I assume. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] moving 10gbps 12 miles

That'll go about 2 miles, I assume. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@afmug.com Cc: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 11:52:42 PM Subject: Re: