Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-14 Thread Mathew Howard
post office and 911 systems would all > have most locations in them. I am sure there are locations without > official addresses, but if someone has been living there and paying > property taxes, pretty sure the local tax man has an address for the > location. > > *

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-14 Thread Mark Radabaugh
s WISP > > > > > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 12:07:38 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough > > Well, the census tiger database, us post office and 911 systems would all > have most locations in them.

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 12:07:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough Well, the census tiger database, us post office and 911 systems would all have most locations in them. I am sure there are locations without

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-14 Thread chuck
. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough I've been in some debates lately with some people that insist that not every location has an (available) address. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:48:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough Most counties and all 911 systems have the MSAG Master Street Addressing Guide. Just a database cut and paste job. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:33

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread chuck
Who is gonna know or point it out? From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 3:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough I guess the real question is what is the penalty for including an address that you can't cover, or don't know for sure that you can

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
I think those issues are vague at this moment. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 10/13/2017 5:08:40 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough I

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:30 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough > > On 10/13/17 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> Most counties and all 911 systems have the MSAG Master Street Addressing >> Guide. >> Just a database cut and paste job. >> > > > Cut and paste doesn't do site surveys for each of those addresses. >

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Brian Webster
: Friday, October 13, 2017 1:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough Right now NY State is funding construction in areas that have service because those service providers failed to supply any 477 data at all. They're also NOT funding construction in places

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread chuck
turf. You only have to say you can serve it within 10 days of being asked. That gives time for roof top tripods, tree trimming etc. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 11:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough On 10

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
That's a fact. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 10/13/2017 1:26:58 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough It seems a lot less cut and dried with wirele

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Steve Jones
there is a difference between rural/urban and actual coverage, even for wireline. we pick up alot of "covered" DSL addresses that get told 768k real throughput is good fed dollars simply should not be going to cover data access in rural areas IMHO fed dollars shouldnt be going toward data access

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/13/17 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Most counties and all 911 systems have the MSAG Master Street Addressing Guide. Just a database cut and paste job. Cut and paste doesn't do site surveys for each of those addresses.

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Jason McKemie
gt; -- Original Message -- > From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com');>> > To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascr

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Adam Moffett
it, otherwise you'll have somebody building on top of you with public money. -- Original Message -- From: "Jason McKemie" <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> Sent: 10/13/2017 12:10:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread chuck
And you only have to do this once. If that makes them happy enough to give you money, why not? From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough Or Postal carrier routes. On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 11:48 AM, <

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Cameron Crum
, October 13, 2017 10:33 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough > > On 10/13/17 9:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >> I presume y’all have the addresses of your customers >> How is this difficult? >> > > > I have addres

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread chuck
Most counties and all 911 systems have the MSAG Master Street Addressing Guide. Just a database cut and paste job. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 10:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough On 10/13/17 9:20 AM, ch

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/13/17 9:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I presume y’all have the addresses of your customers How is this difficult? I have addresses of my customers, of course, but not the individual addresses of all possible customers. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread chuck
: Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough Each street address or household? Are you kidding me? These tech sites are so misguided as far as ISPs go it is pathetic. On Friday, October 13, 2017, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/isp

Re: [AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Jason McKemie
Each street address or household? Are you kidding me? These tech sites are so misguided as far as ISPs go it is pathetic. On Friday, October 13, 2017, Steve Jones wrote: > https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/isps-dont-want- >

[AFMUG] Apparently 477 is not enough

2017-10-13 Thread Steve Jones
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/isps-dont-want-to-tell-the-fcc-exactly-where-they-offer-internet-service/