Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Bill Prince
e- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." Best quote of the day. Thanks Lewis! :) On

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2016-06-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
to >> see what comes out. >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 AM Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> That Amy, she has some odd tastes >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Paul Stewart
: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network I am not saying that clearfield was the cheapest or best. For a fiber virgin they seemed to offer a good end to end solution that solved the issues i knew nothing about and did so without a large capital investment in equipment. On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12

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2016-06-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I've been saving this cartoon for next time Steve gripes about his woman not making the sammiches. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Are you not entertained? On Thu, J

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
;> >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Lewis Bergman >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Low hanging fruit. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:3

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2016-06-16 Thread George Skorup
hanging fruit. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? >> >>

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Luthman
uit. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? > >> >> > >> >> From: Lewis Bergman > >&

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2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
maybe. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? >> >> >> >> From: Lewis Bergman >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM >> &g

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Luthman
> From: Lewis Bergman > >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > >> > >> > >> Damn. That was supposed to be self rape > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:28 PM Lewis Bergman > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Wow. Not a single auto correct self tape on that and there were abunch > of > >>> lew hamming fruit. > >>> > >>> >

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2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
Hamming code? >> >> From: Lewis Bergman >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >> >> >> Damn. That was supposed to be self rape >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016,

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
Low hanging fruit. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building

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2016-06-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Damn. That was supposed to be self rape On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:28 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: Wow. Not a single auto correct

Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
wrote: >> >>> I’ll have to remember that chunk is the expert. >>> >>> *From:* Lewis Bergman >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >>> >>>

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
16 11:46 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >> >> >> I love my Samsung auto correct. I stopped reading it Beggs i send just to >> see what comes out. >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 AM Chuck McCown wr

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
to remember that chunk is the expert. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > > > I love my Samsung auto correct. I stopped reading it Beggs i send just to > see what

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2016-06-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ll have to remember that chunk is the expert. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network I love my Samsung auto correct. I stopped reading it Beggs i send just to see what comes out. On Thu, Jun 16, 2016

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2016-06-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
hat today anyway. A couple of years from now? Maybe. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network We're looking at our first fiber neighb

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2016-06-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Sounds like an endorsement, the "Sterling Jacobson Method". I approve. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Every so often, y

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
;> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >>> >>> "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
to > see what comes out. > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> That Amy, she has some odd tastes >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Josh Reynolds >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >>

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
:39 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > > "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." > > Best quote of the day. Thanks Lewis! :) > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Lewis Bergman > wrote: > > I want Amy good

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
That Amy, she has some odd tastes -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." Best quote of the day. Thanks Lew

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network I had been thinking in terms of a entry every 2-4 homes (drop cables from entry directly to house on each side). Seems excessive. It does seem more managable if

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Every so often, you do what is called a "ring cut" or "mid entry" with a splice case. Run drops forwards and back from the splice case.

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
r >>> outside the dwelling? >>> >>> On 06/16/2016 09:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> >>>> Something that small, run 144 count fiber, home run to each dwelling and >>>> then choose active or PON back at your cabinet. >>>> >&

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2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
-Rob On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Hours. So you want to minimize the number of entries you do. > > *From:* Bruce Robertson > *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:28 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > >

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
Noob question - mechanically, how do you break out an individual fiber >>> outside the dwelling? >>> >>> On 06/16/2016 09:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>>> Something that small, run 144 count fiber, home run to each dwelling >>>> a

Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Every so often, you do what is called a "ring cut" or "mid entry" with a splice case. Run drops forwards and back from the splice case. 8 drop

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
ide the dwelling? >> >> On 06/16/2016 09:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >>> Something that small, run 144 count fiber, home run to each dwelling and >>> then choose active or PON back at your cabinet. >>> >>> -----Original Message- From: Rob G

Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
as it will give you more capacity on each drop to sell and is really > cheaper to do if you do it via the Sterling Jacobson method. > > -Original Message- From: Bruce Robertson > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:20 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building smal

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
hod. -Original Message- From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Noob question - mechanically, how do you break out an individual fiber outside the dwelling? On 06/16/2016 09:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

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2016-06-16 Thread Bruce Robertson
age- From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network We're looking at our first fiber neighborhood project, about 90 homes. The neighborhood will

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
e- From: Rob Genovesi >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >> >> We're looking at our first fiber neighborhood project, about 90 homes. >> The neighborhood will be fed via wir

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2016-06-16 Thread Bruce Robertson
: Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network We're looking at our first fiber neighborhood project, about 90 homes. The neighborhood will be fed via wireless and fiber used for distribution. It's 100% aerial in remo

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Something that small, run 144 count fiber, home run to each dwelling and then choose active or PON back at your cabinet. -Original Message- From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network We're looking a

[AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
We're looking at our first fiber neighborhood project, about 90 homes. The neighborhood will be fed via wireless and fiber used for distribution. It's 100% aerial in remote private neighborhood. Currently in the research/feasibility stage, but I hope this will be our first build and a good project