Our first 450m should arrive this week. We plan to replace an existing 450
AP that has 66 customers for our first deployment.
However, I do not want to do this until I have heard that there are some
installed and working.
Does anyone have 450m up and running. Would you please share your
The 450M which has 3 ports only seems to come with one cable pass-through!!
Anyone know where I can buy extra of these metal pass-throughs?
Cambium, Please could you provide all 3 pass-throughs? We should be able to
install this out of the box without having to go and buy extras???
Tha
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 7:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Our first 450m should arrive this week. We plan
, we are escalating support cases to our team that has a
lot of experience in deploying this model.
Matt
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
Rise Broadband
?
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain nameless,
which has ~1100 active customers across more than 12 sectors of 450m. They are
You were supposed to say that in your head, not out loud.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:18 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Rise Broadband
?
From: Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Tuesday, November
ember 1, 2016 9:18 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Rise Broadband
?
*From:*Matt Mangriotis
*Sent:*Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
*To:*af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
I will say that we have a [very large] custome
Well, now youve ruined Cambiums marketing slogan for me:
http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/gomassive/
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Isn't it kind of c
It was a snapchat...
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Isn't it kind of common knowledge now? I think I heard Anthony Wiener was
tweeting about it.
bp
On 11/1/2016 7:25 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
You were sup
They created this thing for a reason. And that right there is
it. Nuckin futs.
On 11/1/2016 9:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Rise Broadband
?
*From:* Matt Mangriotis
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
I will say that we have a [very
M, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Rise Broadband
>> ?
>> �
>> From: Matt Mangriotis
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:08 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>> �
>> I will say that we have a [very large] customer that will remain n
The other thing I worry about is 14.1.2 was so stable, but here we go with
15.x. Can someone else go first?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Now get the SM costs down so
Exactly.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 6:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
01, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few weeks ago where an operator (not in
the US) with over 100 SMs! on a single 450 sector proved that a performance
boost of 3-3.5x is possible simply by swapping to a 450m sector. And
Aren't the beams 7 degrees?
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of SmarterBroadband
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 11:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
That is 100% why I want to use it. We have an overloaded AP a
Sorry typo
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 12:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Arent the beams 7 degrees?
Chris Wright
Network Administrator
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf
problem. I also
hope the 17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
The data that Matt showed us at HQ a few wee
also hope
> the 17 degree beams will reduce interference seen by the AP.
>
> �
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 8:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
>
, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another solution to
market that you could also load 100subs on and not have the thing choke.
Hopefully Airfiber PTMP will be that. Also what I don't understand
> that should be pushing the 100 in the next 60 days.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:05 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
&g
Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Rory,
Is that Mimosa A5 running in WIFI mode or do you have TDMA firmware for it?
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Rory Conaway
mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
I’ve got Mimosa Ne
Because it's capable of transmitting different data on each of the 7 2x2
MIMO emitters in the same frame. aka MU-MIMO. Think about a single 2x2
sector. It can talk to only one SM. Now add another sector facing the
same direction. You've doubled your capacity, right? Sure, but you're
using twice
; TDMA.
>
> Rory
>
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:28 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> Rory,
>
> Is that Mimosa A5 running in WIFI mode or do you have TDMA fir
how many arrays are in in? 7 or 14? I wonder if it wont transmit on two
adjacent arrays at the same time
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
http://www.wavelinc.com
tel. 419-562-6405
fax. 419-617-0110
> On Nov 1, 2016, at 10:41 PM, George S
Most of our traffic is UDP one direction, NetFlix so it doesn’t seem to be an
issue.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 7:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Are all the clients able to see each other
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
how many arrays are in in? 7 or 14? I wonder if it wont transmit on two
adjacent arrays at the same time
Sent from my iPhone
Kurt Fankhauser
Wavelinc Communications
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
My understanding is that as long as it can get enough diversity between two
sms it will transmit at the same time, up to 7 simultaneous transmissions.
Same for rx.
The key word here is diversity. There are lots of different ways to get
diversity. Which of these cambium is able to exploit with t
2016 10:13
An: af
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
My understanding is that as long as it can get enough diversity between two sms
it will transmit at the same time, up to 7 simultaneous transmissions. Same
for rx.
The key word here is diversity. There are lots of different ways to get
t Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:05:18 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Cambium will never lower SM price until a competitor brings another solution to
market that
s WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 1, 2016 9:05:18
AP costs to be worried
about.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Kurt Fankhauser"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:13:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium
?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:19 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
For sure frame utilization is important. My thoughts are that if you're loading
up that many clients on an AP, maybe you ought
riginal Message -
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:30:36 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
How is being able to serve 100+ subs from one AP a bad thing?
Whether APs are cheap or expensive, we are not in the business of buying APs,
we are i
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>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:13:06 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG]
ovember 2, 2016 9:42:25 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Don't offer significantly faster speeds in your area unless your forced to by a
competitor. If your competitor is offer 3mbps packages then you can offer
10mbps packages and be safe. But no sense in offering 50mbps packages
.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:30:36 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
> How is being able to serve 100+ subs from one AP a bad thing
tps://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>
"af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
I can buy a used PMP450 AP for $1200.00. Add KP Omni for $250 so $1,400.00. The
mimosa A5-18 Omni lists for $999.00 so the PMP450 is not that much more. I've
seen used 450 SM's
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<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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From: "Kurt Fankhauser" < <mailto:lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
To: <mailto:af@afmug.com> af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:13:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMU
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Make them pay for it though, don't leave money at the table unnecessarily. Time
Warner could be selling me a 10gig fiber connection over the same fiber stand
that they are selling me a 1gig. Why are they not giving me 10gig? Because I
know the fiber can h
af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
>
>
>
> Make them pay for it though, don't leave money at the table unnecessarily.
> Time Warner could be selling
That would be nice. While some see 3.65 GHz as the replacement for 900 MHz, we
have been using it to replace 2.4 GHz.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Ken
3GHz 450m is supposed to happen next year. Pretty sure Matt said they're
going to certify it under Part 90 as well so we can actually use it.
On 11/2/2016 11:07 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
On a side note, I wish there was a 450m in 3.65 GHz, where we are
limited both in channel size and total spectru
12:18 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Ken,
I may be mistaken but at Wispalooza I thought I heard cambium say that
3.65ghz will be the next frequency they do 450m in, *if* they were to
do another frequency at all. 2.4Ghz would be the last, not even sure
if it would even
While some see 3.65 GHz as the replacement for 900
> MHz, we have been using it to replace 2.4 GHz.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 2, 2016 12:18 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMU
e PMP320/FSK.
So yes PMP450 is expensive.
*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Kurt Fankhauser
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. November 2016 15:38
*An:* af@afmug.com
*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
I can buy a used PMP450 AP for $1200.00. Add KP Omni for $250 so
$1,400.00. The m
Yes. If you are out of spectrum 450 shines. A UBNT operator has to build
another tower to hang another sector.
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: Bill Prince
Datum: 02.11.2016 20:43 (GMT+01:00)
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Or use horns
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Stefan Englhardt"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 3:16:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Yes.
+1
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Where are you selling those sms?
From: Af on behalf of Kurt Fankhauser
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
Date:
On this list with the Friday posting.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 8:17 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> +1
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:*
be
> perfect but it is not dead end like PMP320/FSK.
>
>
>
> So yes PMP450 is expensive.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *Im
> Auftrag von *Kurt Fankhauser
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. November 2016 15:38
> *An:* af@afmug.com
&
ce of APs
>>> this is not neccesary. As it is .ac it might get an 802.11ax upgrade in the
>>> future. UBNT-802.11n products have an upgradepath which might not be
>>> perfect but it is not dead end like PMP320/FSK.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So yes PMP450 is expensive.
>>>
t be perfect but it is not dead end
like PMP320/FSK.
So yes PMP450 is expensive.
*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Kurt
Fankhauser
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. November 2016 15:38
*An:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Cam
PMP450 is expensive.
*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Kurt
Fankhauser
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 2. November 2016 15:38
*An:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
I can buy a used PMP450 AP for $1200.00. Add KP Omni fo
:48 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m
Oh.. so $400 CAD is about $300 USD right now. And if you're talking 3.6GHz,
then, yeah, that's about right.
Don't worry, the US$ will collapse after the election.
On 11/2/2016 9:42 PM, George Skorup wrote:
$400 for
gt; <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/U
I agree with Adam, we have to be able to install out of the box.
Tushar
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
>
> The 450M which has 3 ports only seems to come with one cable pass-through!!
>
> Anyone know where I can buy extra of these metal pass-throughs?
>
> Cambium, P
AFAIK, the Cambium OEM cable gland is a specialty item produced by Lapp
for Cambium. It doesn't even say Skintop on it. So it's not surprising
that they're $30 a piece and only come in 10 packs. Ask your reseller.
They might even have to order them for you.
An alternative, since I've had to or
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450M
AFAIK, the Cambium OEM cable gland is a specialty item produced by Lapp for
Cambium. It doesn't even say Skintop on it. So it's not surpr
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