Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-19 Thread Paul Stewart
hin >reason) ;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: May 19, 2016 3:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures Agreed from a end user perspective but not so much in a $$$/sq ft revenue perspective of a datacenter operator. With th

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-19 Thread Mike Hammett
.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:37:38 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor).

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-19 Thread Eric Kuhnke
most 200TB raw capacity) they draw around 16kW > of > > power J > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke > > Sent: May 14, 2016 7:50 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data cen

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-19 Thread Josh Reynolds
raw capacity) they draw around 16kW of > power J > > > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke > Sent: May 14, 2016 7:50 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > > > > How does a 44U cabinet

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-19 Thread Eric Kuhnke
May 14, 2016 7:50 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > > > > How does a 44U cabinet need 208V 60A for storage arrays? > > In a 4U chassis the max hard drives (front and rear) is about 60 x 3.5"... > > Say each drive is 7.5W T

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-19 Thread Paul Stewart
Hahah… I’ve seen that several times especially in telco CO’s ;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: May 14, 2016 11:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures I remembering being at a data center on a hot summer day. Power went

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
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Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-15 Thread Josh Luthman
______ > > > > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > > To: af@afmug.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:40:09 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > > > > I remembering being at a data cen

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
t; > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:40:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > > I remembering being at a data center on a hot summer day. Power went out, > generator started. Things were fine... then all the air conditioners > switche

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Josh Luthman
; -- > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:14:49 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > > Wow that's cool! What kind of hardware are they? > > &

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
on 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 12:14:49 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > Wow that's cool! What kind of hardware are they? > Josh L

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Chuck McCown
, 2016 9:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures FYI, Electrical Code (NECA) and most datacenters require the power not to be loaded beyond 80% of breaker capacity... i.e. 16amp draw on a 20amp circuit. Additionally, one also has to have head room on the power circuit

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 7:50:22 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > How does a 44U cabinet need 208V 60A for storage arrays? > In a 4U chassis the max hard drives (front and rear) is about 60 x 3.5"... > Say each drive is 7.5

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
Or if you had 3 or 4 mx960s per cabinet... 38A per power supply x 4 power supplies = 152A. 152A per chassis x 3 = 456A. An MX2020 is fun if running via DC power. ". A total of four PDMs can be installed into a router. Each DC PDM operates with up to nine separate feeds of either 60-amp or 80-amp

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Josh Reynolds
with better designs .. > > > > One of our data centers runs at 78F and have no issues – each cabinet is > standard 208V 30A as you mention but can go per cabinet much higher if > needed (ie. 208V 60A for storage arrays) > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On B

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/14/16 16:50, Eric Kuhnke wrote: In a really dense 2.5" environment all of the above is of course invalid, you could probably need up to 7900W per cabinet I have customers that peak at 10kW per cabinet, but that's HPC, not storage. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
e no issues – each cabinet is standard 208V 30A as you mention but can go per cabinet much higher if needed (ie. 208V 60A for storage arrays) *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke *Sent:* May 11, 2016 5:15 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center tempe

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-13 Thread Paul Stewart
for storage arrays) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: May 11, 2016 5:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures There have been some fairly large data set studies done shown that air intake temperature for huge numbers of servers

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-12 Thread Paul McCall
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures We did a 4.9ghz project for a municipality once, their server room was like a freezer, you could see your breath

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
gain, my data may be old as I >>> worked in that industry 20 years ago.. >>> >>> On 05/11/2016 02:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >>> Yep, hot is good according to Google. Somewhere >>>

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Travis Johnson
-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures Ours is at 68deg F, and

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Robert Andrews
11, 2016 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures Ours is at 68deg F, and we monitor dewpoint and humidity ranges. Howev

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
;>>> old as I worked in that industry 20 years ago.. >>>>> >>>>> On 05/11/2016 02:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yep, hot is good according to Google. Somewhere there is a rotating >>>>>> media study th

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
gt;>>>> Yep, hot is good according to Google. Somewhere there is a rotating >>>>> media study that shows they last longer at higher temps. Who woulda >>>>> thunk. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds &g

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
er at higher temps. Who woulda >>>> thunk. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures >&

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Keefe John
thunk. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures Ours is at 68deg F, and we monitor dewpoint and humidity ranges. However... http://www.geek.com/chips/googles-most-efficient-data-center-runs

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Robert Andrews
: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures Ours is at 68deg F, and we monitor dewpoint and humidity ranges. However... http://www.geek.com/chips/googles-most-efficient-data-center-runs-at-95-degrees-1478473/ On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep, hot is good according to Google. Somewhere there is a rotating media study that shows they last longer at higher temps. Who woulda thunk. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 2:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
51 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures > > apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and > it always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear > in the racks anyway > > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
I have a jacket I leave in the data room. Thankfully our noc is a different building from retail. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:51 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and > it always gets turned back to

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
now. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and it always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
62 to 72 is all I was looking for, just curious =) Thanks for the quick answers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Depends on where the temperature

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Depends on where the temperature sensors are? If we're talking about colocation type cabinets with front-to-rear airflow, and mesh doors on both ends, air intake temperature should be around 20C on the intake side. Or open two-post/relay racks in a room? Hot aisle/cold aisle separated, or

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and it always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear in the racks anyway On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Larry Smith wrote: > On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ours is at 68deg F, and we monitor dewpoint and humidity ranges. However... http://www.geek.com/chips/googles-most-efficient-data-center-runs-at-95-degrees-1478473/ On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data

Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Larry Smith
On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote: > Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice > building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor). I try to keep my NOC room at about 62F, that puts many of the CPU's at 83 to 90F. Many of the bigger

[AFMUG] Data center temperatures

2016-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center. Our really nice building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor).