11:10:02 AM, you wrote: *
>
> Last time I did some calculations, you run into timing limitations before
> you run out of light.
>
> *From:* Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Eth
;mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I will say, I really like the UBNT ONT, and I've been thinking of offering it
as a premium option because of the display. Having the ability to show usage
easily is
Title: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
Chuck,
We are pushing 30km with our GPON using C Lasers. Our zhone equipment allows use to slide that 20km window to fix the timing issues. That port is on a 20km-40km timing window instead of the standard 0km-20km.
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Best
Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I will say, I really like the UBNT ONT, and I've been thinking of offering it
as a premium option because of the display. Having the ability to show
Last time I did some calculations, you run into timing limitations before you
run out of light.
From: Chuck Hogg
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
It doesn't work that way, "turn down&qu
down the tx power.
>
> With PON there's a single Tx source for the entire network, it can't turn
> down because you may have subs at 1km and other subs at 20km.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Reynolds"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/
.
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 7:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
We had to pad much of our gear in the Datacenter as well as the NOC in the
office on short single mode runs, including our Juniper MX960s.
On Aug 3
x27;t turn
>> down because you may have subs at 1km and other subs at 20km.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Reynolds"
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 8/2/2017 1:29:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Activ
iginal Message --
> From: "Josh Reynolds"
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/2/2017 1:29:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>
> To clarify, there is no real intelligent attenuation on any optical
> product I have ever seen
ecause you may have subs at 1km and other subs at 20km.
-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Reynolds"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/2/2017 1:29:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
To clarify, there is no real intelligent attenuation on any optic
hat may be more related
>>>> to the way it's throttled then the GPON.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've been playing with several of these ONT/OLT over the past week. I
>>>> really like them. Though I have a 50% failure rate on the nano
currently using.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UB
and links are short and 'hot', but doesn't seem to
>>> bother anything I'm currently using.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>>> Sent
bother anything I'm currently using.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT
On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>
> I need to print a retraction here. I have been talking to Martin at UBNT
> and he shows me the error of my ways.
, 2017 12:10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
Hmmm, that's not good if it can't auto-attenuate down.
Sounds like they need to fix that.
Most of my SMF lasers and links are short and 'hot', but doesn't seem to bother
anythin
.com ] On Behalf Of Brett
> A Mansfield
> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>
> I need to print a retraction here. I have been talking to Martin at UBNT
> and he shows me the error
fmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I need to print a retraction here. I have been talking to Martin at UBNT and he
shows me the error of my ways. I do not have a 50% fa
t; >> On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:31 PM, wrote:
> >>
> >> We have good luck with 32 customers per 2.4 Gbps down on GPON. Lotsa
> overhead. No problems, not even close, so far. And we are selling more
> Gig circuits than ever before.
> >>
> >> -Origin
ose, so far. And we are selling more Gig
>> circuits than ever before.
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson
>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:19 PM
>> To: 'af@afmug.com'
>> Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GP
on the
> brand of PON, but somewhere beyond a couple hundred units.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jason McKemie" >
> To: "af@afmug.com " <
> af@afmug.com >
> Sent: 8/1/2017 12:03:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition f
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I started with active because I didn't have to learn anything new. Ethernet is
simple, and on a small scale ethernet is cheap.
You definitely hit a threshold where PON becomes cheaper. Depends on the brand
of PON
ssage --
From: "Jason McKemie"
To: "af@afmug.com"
Sent: 8/1/2017 12:03:35 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I'm only doing active at the moment.
On Tuesday, August 1, 2017, Chuck Hogg wrote:
I'm surprised you are bothering wi
gt;>
>>>
>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 ports
>>> active…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps
>>> rate plan not being fast enough
t;>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would be 8 U plus 4 U space, which I think is probably my max
>>>> amount of rack space in the cabinets I am using right now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is likely a lot less power t
share ratio is obviously much worse in the long run.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 ports
>>> active…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then in the future if I run into clients com
"af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I saw ZTE starting at $2k plus. How is that cheaper? Also is the management via
CLI?
Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.
Gino A. Villar
t;>>>
>>>> That is likely a lot less power than the 12U of 48 port switches I can use
>>>> right now, but the share ratio is obviously much worse in the long run.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid a
gt;>>
>>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 ports
>>> active…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps
>>> rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1
>> Maybe I do a Hybrid and put 4 of the OLT, and still have 4x48 ports
>> active…
>>
>>
>>
>> Then in the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps
>> rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to 18, I can move
>> them b
the future if I run into clients complaining about their 1Gbps
> rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to 18, I can move
> them back to 1 to 1 active.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>
31, 2017 2:46 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>
> I have heard a lot of complaints from DirectCom customers about their Fiber
> never being close to what they pay for, but that may be more related to the
> way it's t
Title: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I'll throw my 0.02 in for zhone. Over 2100 ont's on our system now.
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*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet
to GPON
GPON is 2.5 downstream 1.25 upstream per port.
rate plan not being fast enough on the share ratio of 1 to 18, I can move
> them back to 1 to 1 active.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
&g
Mansfield
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I have heard a lot of complaints from DirectCom customers about their Fiber
never being close to what they pay for, but that may be more related to the
way it&#
wo weeks on their demo, lol!
>
> I hope that's not real data they are mirroring/using.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:47 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] U
m] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 2:22 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
GPON is 2.5 downstream 1.25 upstream per port.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
&l
they are mirroring/using.
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
I have heard a lot of complaints from DirectCom customers about
And we are selling more Gig
> circuits than ever before.
>
> -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 2:19 PM
> To: 'af@afmug.com'
> Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
>
> Anyone tried their PON OLT
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
We have good luck with 32 customers per 2.4 Gbps down on GPON. Lotsa overhead.
No problems, not even close, so far. And we are selling more Gig circuits
than ever before.
-Original Message-
From: Sterling Jacobson
7;
Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U
unit?
I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet for
the OLT 1U unit.
Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full
;Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:19:36 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 cli
ubject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT Transition from Active Ethernet to GPON
Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U unit?
I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet for the
OLT 1U unit.
Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have
Anyone tried their PON OLT CPE and OLT 8 port (128 clients per port) 1U unit?
I see pricing around $70 retail for OLT, but haven't seen pricing yet for the
OLT 1U unit.
Also, I'm active fiber right now, so I have full 1 to 1 panels in the rack
already.
If I wanted to 'migrate' to OLT from acti
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