Yep, I would never use them above 6 GHz if possible. Return loss goes to hell.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:33 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
I was taught to avoid N connectors above 6 GHz...SMA up to 18GHz ..
On Feb 3, 2016 11:38 AM
? SMA connectors seem to
> have a more pronounced stop when they’re tight.
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:35 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
>
> Yeah, it is interesting to watch a N connector on a netwo
That One Guy /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
>
> tighten it til the sleeve pops off, cuss, put a new end on and tighten it
> just a little less.
>
> There is probably a torque rating
>
>
When the sleeve pops off, you just use vinyl tape to keep it on. Lots of tape.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 12:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
tighten it til the sleeve pops off, cuss, put a new end on and tighten it just
a little
:38 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
>
> How tight is “fully tight”?
>
> I was taught hand tightened or equivalent, rather than put a wrench on it
> and crank it until it bottoms out. Is that wrong? SMA connectors seem to
> have a more pronounced
Compressing the rubber gasket.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
How tight is “fully tight”?
I was taught hand tightened or equivalent, rather than put a wrench on it and
crank it until it bottoms out. Is that
: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
Yeah, it is interesting to watch a N connector on a network analyzer set for
return loss/VSWR/reflection coefficient.
It gets better with every turn and keeps on improving right up to the last bit
of movement. Anything less than fully tight is
: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] weird problem
3/4 of a turn on an N connector is a lot. You were probably loosing a lot of
RF out that port.
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Dan Petermann wrote:
We have two 11GHz links on the same freqs. One V and
3/4 of a turn on an N connector is a lot. You were probably loosing a lot
of RF out that port.
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Dan Petermann wrote:
> We have two 11GHz links on the same freqs. One V and one H pol. These are
> dual links, 2 - 40Mhz channels. The radios are Dragonwave, one Quant
We have two 11GHz links on the same freqs. One V and one H pol. These are dual
links, 2 - 40Mhz channels. The radios are Dragonwave, one Quantum and the other
a Horizion Duo.
We had to replace the IDU of the Quantum with a DUO and put the link into DUO
compatibility mode.
After replacing the
16, 2016 2:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I’ve had tons of auto negotiation problems with Cisco equipment. Admittedly,
this was mostly between Mikrotik and Cisco, but even putting another device
between them or replacing the MT unit with something else
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I’ve only ever run into one bug with Cisco. It was fairly minor, but I opened
a TAC case. It was resolved in the next release, and I got an email from
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Think he just finished writing a book!
Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220
very large businesses they do the job nicely,
but for anything bringing in less than $10k a month, I just don’t see the need
for Cisco.
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 12:47 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Think he just
ears for
> the latest features but also have to accept some risks and rely on the
> community for support.
>
>
> From: Mike Hammett
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 8:12 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
>
> I never sa
latest features but also have to accept some risks and rely on the
community for support.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 8:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I never said Mikrotik was at the total performance scale of the others. I&#
ke Hammett
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From: "Paul Stewart"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:51:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Hmmm.. disagree on that one. I have been part of those conversa
to work and others don’t.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Not necessarily - one needs to be familiar with the hardware specs on the
particular Cisco
the two 100G
ports are limited to 180Gb/s so it’s only very slight.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
To be fair, I can put something like 128x100Gbps
use cgnat)
Not defending Juniper here despite really liking their gear… the same situation
happens in Cisco too …
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The complaints with Mikrotik are rarely about performance, though. They're
about bugs, lack of desired features, being ignored in general. If perfor
Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The #1 thing I learned at NANOG was that the big vendors are just as full of
shit as the little vendors. Cisco, Juniper, AlcaLu, etc. are all just as likely
to
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:37 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The #1 thing I learned at NANOG was that the big vendors are just as full of
shit as the little vendors. Cisco, Juniper, AlcaLu, etc. are all just as likely
to ignore problems and create bugs
*"Eric Kuhnke" mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:49:12 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
This is sort of an illustration of why I am still very wary of
Mikrotik for r
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> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:49:12 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
>
> T
t;
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Monday, January 11, 2016 4:44 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
>
>
>
> We had raons bit no dangling cables. Leve
Problem with download
hahaha
From: Josh Reynolds<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
In my best Steve impression:
"Fuck DOCSIS"
Ahem. :)
On Jan 15, 201
: Friday, January 15, 2016 10:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Glen, I’m missing something. You told me what? I don’t think it’s a Mikrotik
issue at this point but I’ll know more in a couple hours.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
hahaha
From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
In my best Steve impression:
"Fuck DOCSIS"
Ahem. :)
On Jan 15, 2016 9:41 AM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote:
So can you fix Rory’s download pr
Problem with download
Well, I’m not going to say I told you so, but... [Smile with tongue out]
From: Rory Conaway<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I understand.
Personally I’m not a fan of the CCR series anyway.
They don’t seem to have all the bugs worked out yet.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The complaints with Mikrotik are rarely about performance
Well, I’m not going to say I told you so, but...
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:53 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I understand. However, we have determined this isn’t a Mikrotik issue. The
Edgerouter we put in worked for 24
m
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:41:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
So can you fix Rory’s download problem?
(trying to pull the thread back from fanboy tastes-great-less-filling Mac-vs-PC
territory)
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:33 AM
T
Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2016 9:33 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
>
> My circle of friends has a pretty good success rate at getting Mikrotik
> bugs fixed. www.thebrotherswisp.com
>
> Mikrotik does have some gr
So can you fix Rory’s download problem?
(trying to pull the thread back from fanboy tastes-great-less-filling Mac-vs-PC
territory)
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
My circle of friends has a pretty
dors."
>>>>> The one at the international vendor chimed in, "and we pay 10x more for
>>>>> that right."
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't lose sight of that.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, Cisco is known
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From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:15:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Everybody compla
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From: "Eric Kuhnke"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:05:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Totally in agreement that serious bugs exist on all platforms an
about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To think otherwise is simply blind arrogance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>
permodel girlfriend takes too long in the bathroom.
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2016 7:37 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
>
> The #1 thing I learned at NANOG was that the big vendors are just as
t;>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https:/
: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The #1 thing I learned at NANOG was that the big vendors are just as full of
shit as the little vendors. Cisco, Juniper, AlcaLu, etc. are all just as likely
to ignore problems and create bugs as Mikrotik, Ubiquiti, etc.
When sitting at a table at about 1 AM one
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From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:58:47 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
You’re saying the Juniper/C
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> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke"
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday,
You’re saying the Juniper/Cisco/Brocades of the world traditionally did not
meet their advertised throughputs? I thought they were pretty good about that.
Can you clarify?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 8:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with
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To think otherwise is simply blind arrogance.
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From: "Eric Kuhnke"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:49:12 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
This is sort of an illustration of why I am still very wary of Mikrotik for
routers.
There&
m. This makes no sense since we have
> 12 of the already running with no issues.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:54 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMU
-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
This is sort of an illustration of why I am still very wary of Mikrotik for
routers.
There's a myriad of Cisco routers available with 12 to 2
24 hours, then breaks again. Up to
> Level 4 tech support.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem
This just gets even better. Worked 24 hours, then breaks again. Up to Level 4
tech support.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
We are taking it to
We are taking it to the Mikrotik forum. This makes no sense since we have 12
of the already running with no issues.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:54 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
I’m not terribly happy with ROS since 6.29.
Maybe it’s just still not 100% yet.
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 8:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Replaced the Mikrotik routers with an Airrouter, it works. Replaced with an
Problem with download
We tried 3 Mikrotik routers, 2 cable modems, and two radios from two different
manufacturers.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird P
We tried 3 Mikrotik routers, 2 cable modems, and two radios from two different
manufacturers.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2016 8:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
MTU?
Last time I had
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
Nailed the problem down to the Mikrotik router having a problem with DNS
caching whether it’s Cox or Google. Not sure where to go from there since the
other 12 don’t have a problem.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
4:44 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
We had raons bit no dangling cables. Level 3 says no errors to the modem and
we had a tech out already. We are changing the 2011 to a 450 just to confirm
before we eacalate further.
Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
Typed o
.
Original message
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Date: 1/11/2016 10:38 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
If it just started and youre in an area hit by storms, some of the neighbors,
mostly the empty houses with no tenants at this point
quality until loaded, then watch
> the quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
>
>
> The Netgear ro
quality until loaded, then watch the
quality drop to nearly nothing and loose connection.
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 8:25 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
The Netgear router has nothing to do with it, I was just using their website
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:12 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with download
You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router? They used to have a problem
with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago. The fix was to
disable SPI Firewall
You mention Netgear, is this a Netgear router? They used to have a problem
with downloads stalling, but that was quite a few years ago. The fix was to
disable SPI Firewall.
From: Rory Conaway
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 6:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Weird Problem with
We have a cable circuit that can do everything except download. There is a
Mikrotik router between the computer and the cable modem. Haven't tested
taking the router out yet but we have tried 2 routers, same results.
Basically, downloads either don't start or start and then just crash. Game
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