Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?

2016-04-09 Thread Jeremy
om:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:05 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? > > Out of curiosity Chuck, was that a State or Federal regulator? > > > On 2/4/2016 12:41 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Di

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
FCC Staffer. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? Out of curiosity Chuck, was that a State or Federal regulator? On 2/4/2016 12:41 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Directly from the mouth of one of the

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2016-02-04 Thread Adam Moffett
bsidies were part of the valuation. *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? Yeahbut, the welfare check is tied to providing dial tone, but

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
times goes on but they will also be raising the speed limit. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? I don’t see how they fund it all without expanding the USF contribution base to include broadband. It

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2016-02-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
people to pay for their own broadband or move to the city. Maybe if Trump wins, he’ll get Mexico to pay for it. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:41 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? Directly from the mouth of one of the key regulators

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2016-02-04 Thread Josh Luthman
40 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2016 12:19 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" >> <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hmmm

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2016-02-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
no upside to claiming more than > you > > can do on a 477 turf wise or speed wise but there is a big downside. > > > > From: Cameron Crum > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:10 AM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage

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2016-02-04 Thread Jay Weekley
uot; mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: Hmmm.news to me Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> To: mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] who is using tow

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
that is how they feel. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? Virtually all of northern Illinois is already marked as served. But I think the ILECs did this to themselves by lying about their speeds

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2016-02-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
valuation. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:24 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? Yeahbut, the welfare check is tied to providing dial tone, but can be taken away by an unsubsidized broadband competitor overlapping the turf. From

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2016-02-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > FTTH. Lots of nice RUS loans available at zero percent interest for the > rural ILECS to upgrade. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:25 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is using to

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
FTTH. Lots of nice RUS loans available at zero percent interest for the rural ILECS to upgrade. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:25 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? So what happens now that broadband is 25/x and practically

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2016-02-04 Thread Cameron Crum
XSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Chuck McCown" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:10:48 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? > > There are already FCC cases on the books where both s

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
o: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? I don't think that's true of broadband. Frontier and AT&T DSL only goes to where it goes. If you are in their territory but beyond the DSL limit or on a loaded pair, sorry Charlie, no broadband for you. In fact, AT&am

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2016-02-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
e turf. > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:14 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? > > A duty to serve... phone... not broadband. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computin

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeahbut, the welfare check is tied to providing dial tone, but can be taken away by an unsubsidized broadband competitor overlapping the turf. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? A duty to serve

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2016-02-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? There are already FCC cases on the books where both sides did drive testing and the WISP lost. Based on subscription level should be fine. Some wisps just draw a 20 mile arc around each AP and

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2016-02-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
;s what we see in Illinois. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? ILECs have their maps defined by the state regulators, so while their actual broadband coverage in their turf may

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2016-02-04 Thread Mike Hammett
; To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:10:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? There are already FCC cases on the books where both sides did drive testing and the WISP lost. Based on subscription level should be fine. Some wisps just draw a 20 mile arc arou

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2016-02-04 Thread Mike Hammett
ier. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? What you basically just said is that WISPs can't lie about their coverage areas despite 50% of the maps of the LECs, ca

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? Not sure how they would do “drive testing”. You actually have experienced this happening? Or you mean challenges? I thought they were using the lazy method like assuming if no one had ported out a POTS line to you, then

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 9:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? What you basically just said is that WISPs can't lie about their coverage areas despite 50% of the maps of the LECs, cablecos, and larger WISPs being total bul

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2016-02-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
a big downside. From: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? I'm not sure even areas as small as census blocks groups allow you to be surgically accurate. On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Chuck M

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2016-02-04 Thread Cameron Crum
ter be getting surgically accurate on your 477 >> filings. You do sign them under penalty of perjury and there will be >> telcos challenging your coverage data. >> >> *From:* Dennis Burgess >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 7:07 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >>

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2016-02-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
t; Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:10 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? > > I'm not sure even areas as small as census blocks groups allow you to be > surgically accurate. > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Chuck McCown

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
: Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? I'm not sure even areas as small as census blocks groups allow you to be surgically accurate. On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would say

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2016-02-04 Thread Cameron Crum
ere will be > telcos challenging your coverage data. > > *From:* Dennis Burgess > *Sent:* Thursday, February 04, 2016 7:07 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? > > > We also do the Form 477, i.e. broadband deployment data as we

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2016-02-04 Thread Chuck McCown
, 2016 8:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? +1000 for this solution.. Unless you invest the time and effort to build a custom solution like towercoverage I dont complain about the number of customers it has brought to us and the countless times it has

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2016-02-04 Thread Dennis Burgess
f David Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com? +1000 for this solution.. Unless you invest the time and effort to build a custom solution like towercoverage I dont complain about the number of customers it has brought to us and t

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2016-02-04 Thread Dennis Burgess
Fuller Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? suggestion - take our antenna plots directly from pokeycode, i mean powercode, and automatically populate all our towers in towercoverage... :) - Original Message -

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2016-02-04 Thread David
Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> To: mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com <http://towercoverage.com>? Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 10:22 PM

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
gt; > - Reply message - > From: "Josh Luthman" > To: > Subject: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? > Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 10:22 PM > > Uh you can dude. Been a while since they enabled that. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-23

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
take our antenna plots directly from pokeycode, i mean >>>> powercode, and automatically populate all our towers in towercoverage... :) >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> *From:* Dennis Burgess >>>> *T

[AFMUG] Who is using towercoverage.com?

2016-02-03 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Hmmm.news to me Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 10:22 PM Uh you can dude.  Been a while since they enabled that. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-23

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2016-02-03 Thread Jeremy
tenna plots directly from pokeycode, i mean >>> powercode, and automatically populate all our towers in towercoverage... :) >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message - >>> *From:* Dennis Burgess >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
; *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:51 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? >> >> Thanks for all of the kind comments and suggestions. The pricing is the >> same as since its inception, we have

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2016-02-03 Thread Jeremy
t; *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:51 PM > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? > > Thanks for all of the kind comments and suggestions. The pricing is the > same as since its inception, we have a dedicated staff to answer questions > as well a

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2016-02-03 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Technologies, Inc. den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? wow, the

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2016-02-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
t > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy > /sarcasm > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:31 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? > > > > wow, the pricing is a whole lot more realistic t

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2016-02-03 Thread Dennis Burgess
<mailto:den...@linktechs.net> – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net<http://www.linktechs.net/> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:31 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.co

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2016-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? Normally lead generation and prospective customer qualification would be part of a CRM or Salesforce Automation system, not a Billing system. It sounds like you are using the term Billing System to describe an all-in-one business automat

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2016-02-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
greeting on your phone that says Press 1 for Billing, Press 1 for Sales, Press 1 for Support, or remain on the line to hear these choices again. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? Oh

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2016-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Oh... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 8:09:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
therswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Josh Luthman" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:46:24 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?

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2016-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:27:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com ? $25/mo is n

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
hebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -------------- > *From: *"Josh Luthman" > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Wednesday, February 3, 2016 5:27:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercover

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2016-02-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Re: [AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com? $25/mo is not much. I strongly recommend signing up for it simply for the EUS form. If you get ONE customer out of the purchase, you made money. Any more than that is gravy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

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2016-02-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
that was the problem, no amount of manipulation would get the los numbers anywhere near right, the answer was copy and pasted from them every single time. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > So much this, too. It puts a lead into Powercode so I can see where > interest > > Jos

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
So much this, too. It puts a lead into Powercode so I can see where interest Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2016 7:14 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: > I have used it for over a year and love it, the biggest benefit is it >

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2016-02-03 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have used it for over a year and love it, the biggest benefit is it gives me a way to historically keep track of people that want service, even if I can't service them, I can always go on the map and see where the potential customers that want service are and I can build to them. I don't even use

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2016-02-03 Thread Sean Heskett
Good data in = good data out! I went thru our network and plotted all our APs. I then went thru and validated already installed clients to see if the signal matched the model's prediction. If it was more than +\- 3db then I went and changed the model to match the real world. It is now very accur

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2016-02-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
wow, the pricing is a whole lot more realistic than it used to be, still expensive if you wanted to plot every antenna, but omni will get you the gist of it. hopefully their support is better than a repetitive canned response now On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > $25/mo is no

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2016-02-03 Thread Josh Luthman
$25/mo is not much. I strongly recommend signing up for it simply for the EUS form. If you get ONE customer out of the purchase, you made money. Any more than that is gravy. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 6:

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2016-02-03 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
good luck with that. The only response youll get is The results you get will only be as valid is the information you put into it On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Tim Reichhart < timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote: > Who on this list is using towercoverage.com? I want to know how accurate > it i

[AFMUG] who is using towercoverage.com?

2016-02-03 Thread Tim Reichhart
Who on this list is using towercoverage.com? I want to know how accurate it is because I have an account now with them and I am doubt its very accurate to give out an good signal from my tower. Because I really hate spending 25 dollars per month and its not going to be accurate. Tim