Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network

2016-06-16 Thread Bill Prince
m <mailto:af@afmug.com> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network I love my Samsung auto correct. I stopped reading it Beggs i send just to see what comes out. On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 11:40 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Tha

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2016-06-16 Thread Eric Kuhnke
gt;> From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >>> >>> "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." >>> >>> Best quot

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2016-06-16 Thread Paul Stewart
nal Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." Best quote of the day. Thanks Lewis! :) On Thu, Jun 16, 2016

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2016-06-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I've been saving this cartoon for next time Steve gripes about his woman not making the sammiches. -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 1:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Are you not entertained? On Thu, Jun 16

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
it. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? >> >> >&

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2016-06-16 Thread George Skorup
ailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? >> >> >> >> From: Lewis Bergman >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM >> >> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Luthman
ewis.berg...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Low hanging fruit. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >

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2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
l.com> >> wrote: >> > Low hanging fruit. But more like getting ass hammered maybe. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Luthman
; > >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? > >> > >> From: Lewis Bergman > >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM > >> To: af@afmug.com > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > >> > >> > >> Damn.

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2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
f...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >> Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? >> >> From: Lewis Bergman >> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >> >> >> Damn. That was supposed to be self

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
o:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > > > Damn. That was supposed to be self rape > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:28 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Wow. Not a single auto correct self tape on that and there

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2016-06-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is hamming fruit like a Hamming code? From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 12:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Damn. That was supposed to be self rape On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:28 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
t. >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016, 12:17 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >> >>> I’ll have to remember that chunk is the expert. >>> >>> *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM >

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >> >> >> I love my Samsung auto correct. I stopped reading it Beggs i send just to >

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
wrote: > I’ll have to remember that chunk is the expert. > > *From:* Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > > > I love my Samsung auto correct.

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2016-06-16 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ll have to remember that chunk is the expert. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network I love my Samsung auto correct. I stopped reading it Beggs i send just to see what comes out. On Thu, Jun 16, 2016

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2016-06-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I don't have experience with pole attached stuff or GPON so I'm just speculating. But it's probably close to the same labor cost to string a small count main line for GPON as it would to string a 96 or 144 count mainline for active. The actual drop splice might be less time and maybe a bit

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2016-06-16 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Sounds like an endorsement, the "Sterling Jacobson Method". I approve. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Every so often, y

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
.@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> That Amy, she has some odd tastes >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM >>> To: af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buil

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
June 16, 2016 10:39 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network >> >> "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." >> >> Best quote of the day. Thanks Lewis! :) >> >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Le

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
une 16, 2016 10:39 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > > "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." > > Best quote of the day. Thanks Lewis! :) > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Lewis Bergman

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
That Amy, she has some odd tastes -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network "I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." Best quote of the day. Th

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network I had been thinking in terms of a entry every 2-4 homes (drop cables from entry directly to house on each side). Seems excessive. It does seem more managable

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
to. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Every so often, you do what is called a "ring cut" or "mid entry" with a splice case. Run drops forwards and back from the splice

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
"I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass." Best quote of the day. Thanks Lewis! :) On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass. Bunches of midspan > splits seems to be a pita. I'd the place

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2016-06-16 Thread Rob Genovesi
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Hours. So you want to minimize the number of entries you do. > > *From:* Bruce Robertson <br...@pooh.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:28 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMU

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
o:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network > > That's what I was looking for, thanks. How long does it typically take to > insert that in the middle of a 144 count? Looks like a job... > > On 06/16/2016 09:24 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Isn't

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Every so often, you do what is called a "ring cut" or "mid entry" with a splice case. Run drops forwards and back from the splice case. 8 drop

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2016-06-16 Thread Lewis Bergman
I want Amy good at it but it was a passion in the ass. Bunches of midspan splits seems to be a pita. I'd the place is small enough and small you are just learning maybe do smaller fiber count so you have less cuts and just run more. But, chunk is the expert. We opted to spend more on

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2016-06-16 Thread Jaime Solorza
u do want that option > as it will give you more capacity on each drop to sell and is really > cheaper to do if you do it via the Sterling Jacobson method. > > -Original Message- From: Bruce Robertson > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:20 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
hod. -Original Message- From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network Noob question - mechanically, how do you break out an individual fiber outside the dwelling? On 06/16/2016 09:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

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2016-06-16 Thread Bruce Robertson
> With active, each strand has to run back to a switch somewhere. Right, I got that. I'm talking mechanically on the pole, in front of the house. How do you suck their one fiber out of the 144 count up on the pole? On 06/16/2016 09:22 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: On gpon via a splitter. 1

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2016-06-16 Thread Josh Reynolds
On gpon via a splitter. 1 fiber in, multiple fibers out. Can be on the pole, in a pedestal, or even in the ground in a hand hole. With active, each strand has to run back to a switch somewhere. On Jun 16, 2016 11:20 AM, "Bruce Robertson" wrote: > Noob question - mechanically,

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2016-06-16 Thread Bruce Robertson
Noob question - mechanically, how do you break out an individual fiber outside the dwelling? On 06/16/2016 09:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Something that small, run 144 count fiber, home run to each dwelling and then choose active or PON back at your cabinet. -Original Message- From:

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2016-06-16 Thread Chuck McCown
Something that small, run 144 count fiber, home run to each dwelling and then choose active or PON back at your cabinet. -Original Message- From: Rob Genovesi Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Building small GPON network We're looking at our