Jiri Jelinek wrote:
Is this really what you *want*?
Out of all the infinite possibilities, this is the world in which you
would most want to live?
Yes, great feelings only (for as many people as possible) and the
"engine" being continuously improved by AGI which would also take care
of all rela
Stefan,
> closing your eyes to reality. This is bad because you
> effectively deny yourself the potential for further increasing your fitness
I'm closing my eyes, but my AGI - which is an extension of my
intelligence (/me) - does not. I fact it opens them more than I could.
We and our AGI should
On Nov 2, 2007 1:19 PM, Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is this really what you *want*?
> > Out of all the infinite possibilities, this is the world in which you
> > would most want to live?
>
> Yes, great feelings only (for as many people as possible) and the
> "engine" being continuo
> Is this really what you *want*?
> Out of all the infinite possibilities, this is the world in which you
> would most want to live?
Yes, great feelings only (for as many people as possible) and the
"engine" being continuously improved by AGI which would also take care
of all related tasks includi
Jiri Jelinek wrote:
Let's go to an extreme: Imagine being an immortal idiot.. No matter
what you do & how hard you try, the others will be always so much
better in everything that you will eventually become totally
discouraged or even afraid to "touch" anything because it would just
always demon
> ED>> So is the envisioned world is one in which people are on something
> equivalent to a perpetual heroin or crystal meth rush?
Kind of, except it would be safe.
> If so, since most current humans wouldn't have much use for such people, I
> don't know why self-respecting productive human-level
Matt,
> You contribute to AGI every time you use gmail and add to Google's knowledge
> base.
Then one would think Google would already be a great AGI.
Different KB is IMO needed to learn concepts before getting ready for NL.
> It is not you that is designing the AGI. It is another AGI. And it i
On 11/1/07, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Vladimir: AI that is capable of general learning should be
> > able to also learn language processing, from the letters up.
>
> Sounds wonderful. Anyone attempting that or even close?
In my G0 architecture, NLP is based on logical deduction
On 11/1/07, Edward W. Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Personal AGIs could be very good psychologists for humans.
>
> If the nano-electronics revolution delivers on its promise, in fifteen to
> twenty-five years most of us should be able to afford and wear (or have
> implanted) personal AGI's
On 11/1/07, Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I figured as much. I haven't yet seen a cogent explanation of
> why folks gave up. For shrdlu, sure .. compute power was limited.
IIRC, the reason SHRDLU wasn't taken any further wasn't to do with
computing power, it was because the progr
--- Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:58:07PM -0700, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> > There is a great temptation to insert knowledge directly,
> > but the result is always the same. Natural language is a complicated
> beast.
> > You cannot hand code all the language
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 06:58:14PM -0400, Pei Wang wrote:
> On 11/1/07, Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > More importantly, I've started struggling with representing
> > conversational state. i.e. "what are we talking about?" "what
> > has been said so far?" I've got some inkling on
On 11/1/07, Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> More importantly, I've started struggling with representing
> conversational state. i.e. "what are we talking about?" "what
> has been said so far?" I've got some inkling on how to expand
> conversational state, but its ad hoc so far.
>
> Thu
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:58:07PM -0700, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> --- Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thus, I find that my interests are now turning to representing
> > conversational state. How does novamente deal with it? What
> > about Pei Wang's NARS? It seems that NARS is a reaso
I read an article decades ago that said Japanese scientist assigned to
months of continuous duty at an international scientific base in
Antarctica were each issued a biologically correct, life-size blow up
doll. Presumably an AGI could be packed into something a little more
baba-licious than that,
On Thursday 01 November 2007 16:39, Linas Vepstas wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:50:12AM -0400, Jiri Jelinek wrote:
> > b) how many dev teams seriously work on AGI
>
> How many are there? A dozen? Maybe 100 people total? Less?
That's a good question. If there really are <100, then shouldn't w
--- Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thus, I find that my interests are now turning to representing
> conversational state. How does novamente deal with it? What
> about Pei Wang's NARS? It seems that NARS is a reasoning system;
> great; but what is holding me back right now is not an ab
On 11/1/07, Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How many? VC's I talked to asked the usual VC questions: who is your
> management team, and can you make all the money back in 2 years?
> Both pose serious difficulties for most discussions on this list.
Difficulties? I can answer both of them
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 02:50:12AM -0400, Jiri Jelinek wrote:
>
> Considering
> a) how important AGI is
> b) how many dev teams seriously work on AGI
How many are there? A dozen? Maybe 100 people total? Less?
> c) how many investors are willing to spend good money on AGI R&D
How many? VC's I ta
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 04:35:34PM -0400, Edward W. Porter wrote:
>
> If the nano-electronics revolution delivers on its promise, in fifteen to
> twenty-five years most of us should be able to afford and wear (or have
> implanted) personal AGI's that can substrantially record all of our lives.
> O
I sure don't. I have read very little fiction in my life and even less
science fiction. (I do, however, love good sci-fi movies)
So, without such remembering, I am guessing being made crazy was
considered better than going to Mars? (Mars always seems to get a bum rap
in the Sci-Fi movies I've se
Heck with AGI Shrinks. More likely the nerds on this list will be marrying robots by 2050:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9044918Time will tell whether robo-spouses will be more maddening or less :-)
-JW
-Original Message- From: Benjamin
Doesn't everyone remember Dr. Smile from Phil Dick's novel "The Three
Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch"??
-- Ben
p.s. it was a robo-psychiatrist whose job was to make you crazy enough that
you could be exempted from being sent to a Mars colony, for reasons of
insanity ;-)
On Nov 1, 2007 4:35 PM, Edwa
Personal AGIs could be very good psychologists for humans.
If the nano-electronics revolution delivers on its promise, in fifteen to
twenty-five years most of us should be able to afford and wear (or have
implanted) personal AGI's that can substrantially record all of our lives.
Once they have rec
Bob: > I'm just waiting for the day when "robopsychologist" jobs become
available :-)
There ARE lots of AI/robopsychologists in sc-fi - to help out all those
paranoid androids.
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I'm just waiting for the day when "robopsychologist" jobs become available :-)
On 01/11/2007, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> And no explanation? You tease...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Voss
> To: agi@v2.listbox.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 5:07 PM
And no explanation? You tease...
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From: Peter Voss
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 5:07 PM
Subject: RE: [agi] a2i2 looking for another AI Psychologist
Yes, I did.
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thur
Yes, I did.
From: Mike Tintner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:54 AM
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
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PV:We are looking for another AI Psychologist
Could someone explain what an AI Psychologist is? Pete
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:53:48PM -0700, Matt Mahoney wrote:
> --- Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Aside from Novamente and CYC, who else has attempted to staple
> > NLP to a reasoning engine?
>
> Many have tried, such as BASEBALL in 1961 [1] and SHRDLU in 1968-70 [2]. But
Thanks,
PV:We are looking for another AI Psychologist
Could someone explain what an AI Psychologist is? Peter Voss seems to have
invented a job title.
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Jiri Jelinek wrote on Thu 11/01/07 2:51 AM
JIRI>> Ok, here is how I see it: If we survive, I believe we will
eventually get plugged into some sort of pleasure machine and we will not
care about intelligence at all. Intelligence is a useless tool when there
are no problems and no goals to think ab
--- Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > AGI does not need promoting.
>
> Considering
> a) how important AGI is
> b) how many dev teams seriously work on AGI
> c) how many investors are willing to spend good money on AGI R&D
> I believe AGI does need promoting. And it's IMO similar with t
To a large degree we're already ruled by computers, and will be even
more so in future. As they say - "if it ain't on Google it never
happened".
On 01/11/2007, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/26/opinion/26brooks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin__
On 01/11/2007, Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a) how important AGI is
If you're main focus is the short term - say the next five to ten
years - then AGI is probably not very important and you can get by
largely with the technologies which are currently available (or
faster/cheaper versi
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