Re: [agi] Fwd: Job offering Astro-naughty!

2008-11-03 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/11/1 Joel Pitt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My commitment is with OpenCog at the moment - but this looks like a really cool project/job that may suit some of you on this list :) It sounds like cool stuff for sure, but in the last few years I've had experience of American tech companies

RE: [agi] Cloud Intelligence

2008-11-03 Thread John G. Rose
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] True, we can't explain why the human brain needs 10^15 synapses to store 10^9 bits of long term memory (Landauer's estimate). Typical neural networks store 0.15 to 0.25 bits per synapse. This study -

Re: [agi] Unification by index?

2008-11-03 Thread Russell Wallace
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Benjamin Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Prolog clause database effectively has this same problem. It solves it simply by indexing on the functor of the outermost term and the first argument of that term. This may be enough for your problem. As Donald Knuth

Re: [agi] An AI with, quote, 'evil' cognition.

2008-11-03 Thread Trent Waddington
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In terms of MMOs, I suppose you could think of Selmer's approach as allowing scripting in a highly customized variant of Prolog ... which might not be a bad thing, but is different from creating learning systems.. Also in

RE: [agi] Cloud Intelligence

2008-11-03 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Mon, 11/3/08, John G. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This study - http://www.cogsci.rpi.edu/CSJarchive/1986v10/i04/p0477p0493/MAIN.PDF is just throwing a dart at the wall. You'd need something more real life instead of word and picture recall calculations to arrive at a number even

[agi] Re: [redwood] ICBS Seminar: - Michael Spivey

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Tintner
This is interesting because it challenges the discrete, stepped, Turing machine conception of thought with a continuous dynamics model. {If anyone knows of more stuff along these lines, I'd be v. interested]. Here's a pdf of Spivey's ideas.

Re: [agi] Re: [redwood] ICBS Seminar: - Michael Spivey

2008-11-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
I just want to note that there is no real distinction btw continuous-variable models like this as typically used, and computable, Turing-machine-type models. For instance, biologists do detailed simulations of the continuous variables underlying neural activity, on digital computers. And

Re: [agi] Re: [redwood] ICBS Seminar: - Michael Spivey

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Tintner
Ben, He is v. explicitly talking about a paradigm shift and the mind-as-computer as just one in a series of technological metaphors. Perhaps this will be clearer if you look at his latest book The Continuity of Mind on Amazon, where you can read the introduction. (Sheer philosophy-of-science

Re: [agi] Re: [redwood] ICBS Seminar: - Michael Spivey

2008-11-03 Thread Ben Goertzel
Well, you need to distinguish between A) the contemporary, von Neumann computer as a metaphor and B) the abstract, mathematical computer as a theoretical framework These are really quite different things ... -- Ben G On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Mike Tintner [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

[agi] Mathematical models of autonomous life

2008-11-03 Thread Jan Klauck
Researchers from the German Max Planck Society claim to have developed mathematical methods that allow (virtual and robotic) embodied entities to evolve by their own. They begin with a child-like state and develop by exploring both their environment and their personal capabilities. Well, not very

Re: [agi] constructivist issues

2008-11-03 Thread Charles Hixson
That's a lot stronger and more interesting that the theories that I was referring to. Also a lot more complex. **This is getting way off topic, so the rest should probably be ignored.** One of the theories that I was referring to contained only 0 and a rule that given a number allowed you