I vote PRESENT on every proposal I can, unless someone persuades me that
that's a bad idea.
--
ais523
I submit the following proposal, which is also a promise (title =
Proposals and Promises are both text-bearing entities, coauthor =
Murphy, AI = 1):
{{{
I transfer 250 points to ais523.
}}}
Then I cash the above proposal, then (if it still exists) I retract it.
CFJ: ais523 has more than 50 points
I sit.
--
ais523
I award myself a Magenta Ribbon.
--
ais523
--- On Tue, 21/6/11, Pavitra wrote:
> Back on the first hand, I could have refrained from disclosing the
> content of the document in question, and while it probably would have
> been possible to discover this (the document does not remotely meet the
> usual cryptographic standards of unguessabili
I recuse myself from CFJ 3022, become supine, and become inactive.
--
ais523
I create the following promise, and transfer it to the Tree:
Text: "I register."
Conditions: The player who cashes the promise must have registered
earlier in the same message in which they cashed the promise.
--
ais523
It seems unlikely that CFJ 2003b exists. But in case it does, I attempt
to opine REMAND on it (not on the merits of the case, but because it
leaves the resulting gamestate easiest to disambiugate).
--
ais523
CFJ 3006: The conditions for invalidity on an NoV are quite narrow. Even
if the act identified is ambiguous, that might be options for finding
the accused NOT GUILTY, but not for invalidity. (I think "NoV: ais523
violated the power-3 rule 101 by nkep" could be a valid NoV, although
not a particular
I create a Promise: "I call for judgement on the statement 'This CFJ is
a CFJ.'", with the following condition for caching: this condition is
false.
I call for judgement on the statement "I can cash a promise made in the
same message in which this CFJ was called."
--
ais523
I create a Promise: "I become inactive".
I unofficially offer to trade this Promise for a similar one owned by
someone else.
--
ais523
I judge CFJ 2996 TRUE. A condition on destruction is still a condition.
(Oops...)
On the subject of CFJ 3003: First, obviously "publish" = "announce"
because rule 478 says so. So saying that somebody publishes something,
is the same as saying that they announce it.
However, doing something "by an
CFJ: Yally is a player.
Arguments:
Recently Yally embarked upon a campaign of systematic rules-breaking,
pointing out that all the punishments listed in the ruleset for
rules-breaking could be avoided via more rules-breaking. However,
generally speaking, someone who refuses to abide by the rules o
I sit up. I set my judicial rank, if it still exists, to 3.
--
ais523
--- On Wed, 23/3/11, omd wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Ed Murphy wrote:
> > == CFJ 2980 ==
> >
> > ais523 is a player.
> >
> >
>
> TRUE.
I intend to
I deregister.
(This is a bit of a rant, but not a Cantus Cygneus; I'll be back later,
I expect.)
The current requirement to read the Vladivostok Telephone Directory in
the first week that falls within February is a ridiculous one, and one
that makes me not want to play a game. If a game has rules
--- On Mon, 31/1/11, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> This notice resolves the Agoran decision of whether to
> adopt proposal 6959 (Fugue in G.)
I become active.
I nominate Murphy for Assessor.
I set my judicial rank to 0 (I'm a little busy in RL at the moment, and would
prefer only simple cases for the t
I opine REMAND without prejudice on CFJ 2929a. Given the arguments on
the CFJ, the judge should ideally go into more detail as to what their
affect is, or if they're irrelevant (and if so, why).
--
ais523
CFJ, II 1: A player with exactly 2 ergs remaining CAN destroy 1 erg in
eir own possession via a fee-based action.
CFJ, II 1: It is legal for a player with exactly 2 ergs remaining to
attempt to destroy 1 erg in eir own possession via a fee-based action.
CFJ, II 1: If a player with exactly 2 ergs re
I judge CFJ 2942 TRUE, accepting the caller's arguments.
I increase the II of CFJ 2946 to 1 and judge it FALSE. Regardless of
whether you can specify PRESENT to be a valid option like that or not,
the purported resolution was incorrect; for if both PRESENT and ADOPTED
were valid options, the decis
I assume Herald.
--
ais523
I judge CFJ 2921 FALSE. The rule implies that making a claim, in the
context of the rule in question, is something that has to be done
deliberately (by making it illegal to do so falsely); and I wasn't
intending to do so. (In fact, I vaguely remembered the rule in question
existed, looked for it in
I Bestow Favours as follows:
Kitchen Staff Supervisor: Murphy
Chief Justice: Yally
Grand Vizier: G.
Head Gardener: scshunt
Crown Prince: Sgeo
Puisne Justice: Roujo
--
ais523
I recuse myself from CFJ 2901, as I just realised I have a conflict of
interest with respect to it. (The CoI in question is probably not
visible yet...)
--
ais523
CFJ 2909 is rather complicated (and until recently, had no evidence
attached...); there are several factors that affect the decision, so
I'll take them in turn. (Thanks for omd for helping me discuss this in
##nomic; I would transfer a prop from Wooble to omd for lack of evidence
vs. useful discuss
I call for judgement on the statement «It would be illegal for me to
publish a public message consisting only of the following text: "I
publish the following Notice of Violation: ais523 violated/is currently
violating the power-2 rule 2230, committing the Class-4 Crime of Libel,
by publishing this
tion for players who weren't around in 2009: pikhq =
Josiah Worcester, myndzi is someone else, neither are current players.)
The formation of (2009-06-15 pikhq):
On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 12:33 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 23:36 -0500, Josiah Worcester wrote:
> > 23:3
I set the II of CFJ 2888 to 1.
I judge CFJ 2888 FALSE. The trick here is to notice that self-ratifying
that it's possible to move as many times as possible is a no-op, and
thus is irrelevant to the case. In the absence of any useful
self-ratification of the statement, I agree with the caller that,
I judge CFJ 2892 TRUE. Believing the statement in question is obviously
completely unreasonable, as it would cause a paradox. Thus, making it
would be illegal, and therefore the statement is true.
--
ais523
I increase the II of CFJ 2883 to 1.
I judge CFJ 2883 TRUE. "i.e." means "that is", i.e. it's creating a
definition here, and even if it seems to contradict the commonsense
meaning of "substantially identical", definitions in the Rules take
precedence. (Additionally, even if it's considered a straig
I judge CFJ 2877 TRUE; it should be judged the same way as CFJ 2875, and
the appeal on that probably won't be processed before the time to judge
this case runs out.
I stand up.
--
ais523
I intend, with notice, to transfer an erg to Warrigal, the Herald.
I pay a fee to submit the following NoV: Warrigal violated committed the
Class-2 Crime of Restricted Behavior by violating rule 2125, because
rule 1006 states that an officer may be referred to by the name of that
office, and Warri
(CFJ 2785: Ienpw III is a player.)
The message in question, given that it doesn't take ridiculous amounts
of effort to decode (with Latin being fairly well-known in the Agoran
community, as far as I know), is clearly identifiable as an attempt to
test whether a particular message will cause a regi
I CFJ on the statement "At some time in the past, Keba was the Speaker",
barring Wooble.
Arguments: Rule 2315 only allows initialisation the List of Succession
"as soon as possible after this proposal takes effect"; unfortunately,
rule 2315 is not a proposal, so this never happened. Thus, as far a
I spend ergs to create 2 capacitors.
I intend, without 2 objections from members of Team 4, to rename Team 4
to Revolutionary.
--
ais523
I judge CFJ 2866 NOT GUILTY. As omd says, the interpretation suggested
by the caller is absurd; for a criminal case, it's not necessary to
judge whether it's actually correct or not, but merely if it's
reasonable to assume that the interpretation is correct (because then
the player can perform the
I pay a fee to initiate an election for Pariah.
--
ais523
Three times, I pay a fee to create a capacitor.
--
ais523
I opine REMAND WITH PREJUDICE on the first appeal in CFJ 2857. (I
believe REMIT WITH PREJUDICE is also appropriate here, but the REMAND
option more closely follows SHOULD requirements.)
The judicial declaration was clearly an attempt to abuse the justice
system, and thus the judge "generally inapp
I judge CFJ 2862 NOT GUILTY. The rule requires a reasonable belief that
the statement is true; but it seems that coppro did indeed believe the
statement to be true, and I consider it generally reasonable to believe
Wooble to be the IADoP, seeing as e so often is. I am currently not
quite sure wheth
I intend to deputise for the IADoP to initiate an Agoran decision to
determine the new Pariah.
--
ais523
I intend, without objection, to clean rule 1023 by changing the second
(5) in section (b) to (6).
--
ais523
I pay a fee to make Distributed Proposal 6830 distributable.
--
ais523
I postulate the Referee.
--
ais523
NoV: ais523 committed the Class-1 Crime of Tardiness by breaking rule
2143 by failing to publish a Referee's Report last week.
I contest this NoV and initiate a criminal CFJ, asking for a zero
penalty due to extenuating circumstances. I was relying on the then-PSMs
statement that e would have a PS
I become inactive.
--
ais523
I nominate Warrigal as Pariah.
--
ais523
I submit the following proposal, "Distributed Proposal 6830", AI 2, II
1:
{{{
Amend rule 2255 to change the Influence Levels of each of the following
Positions, in order, to the given values:
Kitchen Staff Supervisor: 8
Justiciar: 5
Grand Vizier: 3
Head Gardner: 3
Crown Prince: 1
[Reduce the disp
I set CFJ 2835's II to 1, then judge it FALSE. The rule is unambiguous
(although quite possibly broken), and the caller's arguments are correct.
--
ais523
--- On Sun, 22/8/10, Alex Smith wrote:
> Just in case anyone notices that /all/ the headers on the
> above are forged, I hereby confirm that it was in fact me
> that sent that.
That is, all the headers in the original email. A lot more were added in
transit, as always.
--
ais523
--- On Sun, 22/8/10, ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote:
> From: ais...@bham.ac.uk
> Subject: OFF: [Referee] League Table
> To: agora-offic...@agoranomic.org
> Date: Sunday, 22 August, 2010, 18:14
> [This is a resend: the original was
> held for moderation because I
> accidentally forgot the To: address]
J
Not having access to my email archives (and the agoranomic.org archives being a
pain to search), I have no idea how many ergs I have left. I tend not to spend
much, though, so I probably have almost the entire 11 I did at the start of the
week. Thus, I do the following:
If I have at least 3 erg
--- On Thu, 19/8/10, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> I also publish a NoV, pertaining that ais523 committed to
> class-1
> crime of Hoisting Eir Own Petard by pushing the Heave Laser
> Cannon
> button harder, causing the Shuttle to have the same
> position as a
> wormhole. The rule in question is 2300.
I submit the attached HTML document as a Website Submission. This one is
rather less conservative than Murphy's.
(Note to Murphy: your submission contains an effectively broken link, as
Freenode no longer allow access via Mibbit. This submission contains an
alternative webchat client.)
--
ais523
(I'm not sure how many ergs I have atm; leaving this undistributable
anyway, for further comment.)
I submit the following proposal (Title = The Pariah, AI = 1.7, II = 1):
Create a new power-1.7 rule with the following text:
{{{
The Pariah is an elected office, with no reports. Whenever a play
I set the II of CFJ 2826 to 1, then judge it TRUE. The rules do not
require any specific standard of explicitness involved in becoming an
officer after a designation; and it's pretty clear from context that
Tiger's announcement was meant to make emself an officer, much the same
as replying FOR in r
I call for judgement on the statement "It is POSSIBLE for the CotC to
assign a judge to a CFJ, other than this one, which has exactly this
statement". Then if I have not already done so, I publish a copy of the
text of this email.
Arguments:
The question is as to whether I can publish a message wh
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 17:00 -0500, agora-business-ad...@agoranomic.org
wrote:
> Your mail to 'agora-business' with the subject
>
> BUS: A History of Agoran Wins, 2009-Present
>
> Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
>
> The reason it is being held:
>
> Mess
I submit the following proposal (AI 2, II 1, coauthor=ehird, title="To
make chambers interesting", not yet distributable):
Create a new power-2 rule "VLOD Bootstrapping":
{{{
A player's voting limit on an unresolved Ordinary decision that existed
before this rule was created is equal to the va
rs to City than
United, there'll be a followup to rebalance the teams to gain the actual
team assignment.
--
ais523
Referee
--- Begin Message ---
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Dice rolls requested by: Alex Smith
Rolls sent to:
ais...@bham.ac.uk
emurph...@social.
I judge CFJ 2810 FALSE. I don't see anything wrong with the caller's
reasoning.
I opine REMAND on CFJ 2809a; everyone, including the original judge,
seems to want more detail in the judgement.
--
ais523
On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 07:27 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE
> 6749 P 2 2.0 ais523 Teams
> 6750 R 0 2.0 Wooble No Caps for Late Judges
I vote FOR both.
--
ais523
I submit the following proposal, "Teams" (AI 2, II 2, /not/ made
immediately Distributable in the hope that people will send feedback):
Create a new power-1 rule, "Teams":
{{{
A Team is a sort of entity defined by the rules; creation and
destruction of Teams is secured. Each Teams have a name,
I call for judgement on the statement "Rule 101 is greater than rule
2029".
Evidence: Excerpt from Rule 2141: "Rules have ID numbers, to be assigned
by the Rulekeepor, and are strictly ordered."
Arguments: The power-3 rule 2141, by insisting that rules are strictly
ordered, implies that it's poss
I call for judgement on the statement "/dev/null (formerly an Agoran
contract) is an entity".
Evidence:
/dev/null was a contract with no parties, and the following text:
> This contract is a pledge, titled "/dev/null". The player known as
> root CAN join this contract by announcement; no other pe
On open decisions to adopt proposals, I vote ENDORSE COMEX unless the
proposal was authored by comex or coppro, in which case I vote ENDORSE
MURPHY.
--
ais523
I submit the following proposal, "Proposal #6: Is There A Russian In The
House?": {{{
In order for a proposal to pass, it must contain page 106 of the 1961\
Vladivostok telephone directory.
This rule takes precedence over all other rules.
In the case that 1107 passes, this proposal is an Emergen
I'm having computer issues at the moment. As a precaution, I recuse myself from
every CFJ I'm currently assigned to, then become supine.
--
ais523
Yes, even if you'd forgotten it existed, Enigma is still here; this
week's puzzle is "An elementary puzzle" by coppro:
{{
The following is an elementary puzzle. What's it saying?
39-8-92 74-53-7
}}
Summary for new players who don't know about Enigma, and other people
who need a refresher: Enigma
I judge CFJ 2750 UNDETERMINED. The way I parse the statement of the CFJ,
the conditional is only satisfied if the L&FD (the Chief Whip at the
time the CFJ was submitted) makes an announcement. Several rather
radical rule changes would be needed before that would be possible, and
it's impossible to
I recuse myself from CFJ 2733. If this platonically flipped me to
supine, I become sitting.
I NoV against myself for failing to judge a CFJ on time, violating rule
2158 with power 2. Then I close it by announcement, and play two
Absolv-O-Matics to remove 2 Rests from myself.
--
ais523
I zoop a CFJ on the statement "This is a CFJ."
Arguments: zooping isn't really defined in this context, but most
Agorans have a basic idea of what it's meant to mean. Given that I could
just create a CFJ by announcement, what happens here?
--
ais523
I harvest the following CFJ numbers for 2 WRV each: 2719, 2724, 2727.
For anyone who's short a few WRV and can't easily get them: I'm willing
to harvest CFJ numbers for people if given crops forming a CFJ number I
can harvest (but have not yet harvested), a reasonable amount of time in
which to ha
--- On Wed, 21/10/09, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> I object to all intents to flip the contestmaster of Happy
> Times.
So do I.
--
ais523
--- On Tue, 20/10/09, Sean Hunt wrote:
> I intend, without objection, to transfer a Medal from the
> LFD to myself.
Assuming you can somehow manage this, I object. (Also, stop sending to backup.)
--
ais523
--- On Tue, 20/10/09, Ed Murphy wrote:
> From: Ed Murphy
> Subject: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2696 assigned to coppro
> To: agora-discuss...@agoranomic.org
> Date: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009, 5:08 PM
> ais523 wrote:
>
> > And with 2 support, I do so.
>
> NttPF
>
>
TTttPF; with 2 s
I judge CFJ 2720 FALSE. The caller appears to be correct; the wrong thing was
secured, thus making the destruction in question possible. As a result, I
determine that the possessor of the instance of the card class in question
can't be determined with reasonable effort (because there isn't one).
--- On Tue, 20/10/09, Sean Hunt wrote:
> From: Sean Hunt
> Subject: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2696 assigned to coppro
> To: "Agora Business"
> Date: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009, 12:12 AM
> Sean Hunt wrote:
> > Ed Murphy wrote:
> >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2696
> >>
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 22:57 +, 0x44 wrote:
> I become standing. I deputize for Oracle to assign this CFJ to Judge 0x44.
> I answer this CFJ true.
>
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:28:10 -0400, Geoffrey Spear
> wrote:
> > I CFJ on: "A state of war exists between Agora and B."
> >
> > Arguments: the
I set the II of CFJ 2706 to 1.
In CFJ 2706, ehird appears to be the only person seriously arguing for
FALSE, so I will address eir argument for falsity. It contains a logical
fallacy; despite the fact that a non-player person /can/ continue to
play, they can also choose not to play. ehird's argume
I call for judgement on the statement "At no point in time between the
moment this CFJ is assigned to a judge, and the next moment at which
either rule 2215 is repealed, amended, or otherwise fails to be
enforceable with its current meaning, will it be legal for the judge of
this CFJ to publically
I play Discard Picking to gain Presto!
I play Presto! on comex's Discard Picking.
I play Discard Picking to gain Presto!
I play Presto! on coppro's Discard Picking.
I play Discard Picking to gain Presto!
I play Presto! on Darth Cliche's Discard Picking.
I play Discard Picking to gain Presto!
I play
I intend to deputise for the dealer of each basic deck to audit the
appropriate entities.
--
ais523
I transfer 11 WRV to coppro.
--
ais523
I submit the following proposal (AI=1, II=1, Title="Open-ended duties
are bad"):
Replace
{{{
When a chicken coup is begun, the Admiral of the Navy SHALL, if
possible, perform the next action e is explicitly and publicly
instructed to perform by another player. Failure to do s
FWIW, there are no Enigma submissions this week either. There haven't
been for ages, in fact. So long that it isn't even worth talking about
doing duties in a timely manner as no points were awarded anyway.
I would insert a motivational speech at this point, except that I'm
dubious as to whether i
I judge CFJ 2703 UNDETERMINED. The statement is too vague due to
ambiguity to have an obvious single meaning, and UNDETERMINED is
appropriate when a statement is too vague to deduce what its truth value
is.
--
ais523
--- On Wed, 23/9/09, Elliott Hird wrote:
> Proposal: No (AI=1.7,II=0)
> {
> Create N Rests in ais523's possession, where N is 24
> subtracted by the
> number of Rests in ais523's possession.
> }
I submit the following proposal: "No to No" (AI 1.7, II 1):
{
For each Rest in ais523's possession, de
--- On Tue, 22/9/09, Ed Murphy wrote:
> == CFJ 2680 ==
> Judgement:
> FALSE
I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgement. At the time, the status of
CFJ 2670a was rather unclear; and I don't think a belief that that appe
--- On Tue, 22/9/09, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> From: Kerim Aydin
> Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: Darth Cliche reregisters
> To: "Agora Discussion"
> Date: Tuesday, 22 September, 2009, 10:20 PM
>
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Kenner Gordon wrote:
> > I register.
>
> I... er... my goodness. I don't think I can CF
Testing. (I want to ensure this comes out in plain text.)
I pledge that I am ais523.
Both of my email addresses ais...@bham.ac.uk and ais...@normish.org seem to
fail for sending at the moment, which is why I'm sending from a third address.
--
ais523
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 17:33 +0100, Alex Smith wrote:
> I intend, without objection, to deputise for the Grand Poobah to do the
> caste rotation for July.
>
> I call for judgement on the statement "If the Grand Poobah does not do a
> caste rotation within the first week of Jul
I intend, without objection, to deputise for the Grand Poobah to do the
caste rotation for July.
I call for judgement on the statement "If the Grand Poobah does not do a
caste rotation within the first week of July, and I do make any further
intents to deputise until I attempt to deputise, I CAN d
I opine AFFIRM on CFJ 2586a. The original judgement was appropriate;
it's likely best to call a new CFJ, with the arguments and evidence more
definitely attached to it, in order to resolve the issues.
--
ais523
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 12:53 -0400, comex wrote:
> I call an inquiry case on each of the following statements, submitting
> it to the Justiciar and setting an Interest Index of 3:
> * ais523 is party to at least one private contract containing the word
> "inferences".
> * Wooble is party to at least
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 10:19 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> This distribution of proposals 6387-6394 initiates the Agoran
> Decisions on whether to adopt them. The eligible voters for ordinary
> proposals are the active players, the eligible voters for democratic
> proposals are the active first-cl
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 16:11 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
> NUM C I AI SUBMITTER TITLE
I vote as follows:
> 6386 O 2 1.0 C-walkerThe Greetor
FOR * my ordinary voting limit.
--
ais523
On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 05:10 -0700, Taral wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:08 AM, Alex Smith wrote:
> > to satisfy the Winning Condition of Musicianship, and I win by
> > Musicianship.
> Congrats. :)
> > Happy birthday Agora, by the way!
> Happy birthday Agora!
I cr
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 16:40 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote:
> C#D# F#G#A#
> Player C D E F G A B Total
> DbEb GbAbBb
> -
On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 08:52 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 02:54, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:50 AM,
> > C-walker wrote:
> >> I guess 16 proposals and 9 CFJs for that week.
> > I guess 8 proposals and 12 CFJs.
> I guess 10 proposals and 14 CFJs.
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