Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3753 Assigned to omd

2019-07-02 Thread Rebecca
No On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > So would I face prejudice if I were to open the exact same CFJs again > later once we actually get CHoJ fixed? > > Jason Cobb > > On 7/3/19 12:38 AM, omd wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 7:49 PM Jason Cobb > wrote: > >> Dang it; you are

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8196-8201

2019-07-02 Thread Ørjan Johansen
Your proposal numbers have some off-by-100 errors. Greetings, Ørjan. On Wed, 3 Jul 2019, James Cook wrote: Votes inline. IDAuthor(s) AITitle --- 8196 Jason Cobb, Falsifian 1.7 Perfecting pledges

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8196-8201

2019-07-02 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019, Aris Merchant wrote: Amend item 3 of the only list of Rule 2528 ("Voting Methods") to read: 3. For an instant runoff decision, non-empty ordered lists for which each element is a valid option. The current "entities" text was introduced on purpose in 2017 by Alexis's

Re: DIS: Fwd: Re: BUS: Kwang

2019-07-02 Thread James Cook
On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 03:33, Edward Murphy wrote: > There was a past rule and/or CFJ to the effect that this type of > ambiguous ordering is still effective, provided that the choice > doesn't make any substantive difference to the gamestate. (In this > case, either order would lead to D. Margaux

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: DIS: Proto: Moots are moot

2019-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb
Oh, sorry, didn't realize the first wasn't to the discussion forum. Jason Cobb On 7/2/19 11:34 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: I got the first one, if that helps in any way. Jason Cobb On 7/2/19 11:33 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: DIS: Proto:

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: DIS: Proto: Moots are moot

2019-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb
I got the first one, if that helps in any way. Jason Cobb On 7/2/19 11:33 PM, Edward Murphy wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: DIS: Proto: Moots are moot Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:32:12 -0700 From: Edward Murphy To: Jason Cobb Jason Cobb wrote: I'm not sure

DIS: Fwd: Re: BUS: Kwang

2019-07-02 Thread Edward Murphy
I didn't get back a copy of this message in a timely fashion, so I suspect the munging is indeed not working yet. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: BUS: Kwang Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:20:03 -0700 From: Edward Murphy To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org Falsifian wrote: On Mon,

DIS: Re: BUS: Kwang

2019-07-02 Thread Edward Murphy
Falsifian wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 06:37, D. Margaux wrote: I earn 10 coins total (5 for each of my two most recent CFJs) I think this didn't work, since the order of these two actions is ambiguous. R478 requires actions by announcement to be unambigious, and also says the actions take

Re: DIS: DMARC bounces (attn Murphy)

2019-07-02 Thread James Cook
On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 02:08, omd wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 6:30 PM James Cook wrote: > > (I'm not suggesting we use Discourse, just that maybe similar options are > > available with the current software.) > > It seems Mailman does support something like that: > >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3750 Assigned to twg

2019-07-02 Thread James Cook
Gratuitous: I don't think I understood G.'s argument. As far as I can tell, this is straightforward. R2579 says "To perform a fee-based action, an entity ... must announce", and later "Upon such an announcement". I think the first excerpt is clearly only talking about fee-based actions, and the

DIS: Re: BUS: ADoP Deputisation

2019-07-02 Thread James Cook
In the ongoing election for ADoP, I vote [Murphy]. On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 at 02:00, Rebecca wrote: > > Having intended to do so days ago, I deputise for ADoP to initiate an > agoran decision for the election of the position of ADoP. The voting method > is instant run-off, the ADoP is the vote

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3753 Assigned to omd

2019-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb
Dang it; you are absolutely right, and I didn't consider that. Note to judge omd: this applies just as well to CFJ 3743. Jason Cobb On 7/2/19 10:45 PM, James Cook wrote: Gratuitous argument: As far as I know, finger-pointing still isn't fixed. CFJ 3736 determined that the Referee CANNOT levy

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8180-8187

2019-07-02 Thread James Cook
I don't think so. On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 at 06:08, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Did the below proposals ever get resolved? -G. > > On 6/22/2019 4:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > CoE: This leaves out my votes on Telnaior's behalf, which change the > > outcome of at least one proposal I think (8184).

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3752 Assigned to omd

2019-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb
But what if I think strings are just /better/ than numbers? Jason Cobb On 7/2/19 9:09 PM, Rebecca wrote: Gratuitious: the caller emself admits that N is obviously intended to mean a number. One meaning of N in this specialised context is to stand in for a number. This isn't even a policy

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3752 Assigned to omd

2019-07-02 Thread Rebecca
Gratuitious: the caller emself admits that N is obviously intended to mean a number. One meaning of N in this specialised context is to stand in for a number. This isn't even a policy argument, this would be a perfectly textual holding. On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:56 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

2019-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb
I'd just like to apologize to omd, who managed to get all 3 of my Oathbreaking CFJs... Jason Cobb On 7/2/19 9:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: [Quick! While it's still current!] Court Gazette (Arbitor's Weekly Report) INTERESTED JUDGES AND THEIR MOST RECENT CASE --- 3741

Re: DIS: "Class-N Crime" or "Class N Crime"

2019-07-02 Thread Rebecca
This would be a good candidate for a cleanup. I think the dash is more correct as its an adjectival phrase as it were? On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:51 AM Jason Cobb wrote: > Just to be stylistically consistent, which one should I prefer? The > Rules use both, although "Class N" is more common than

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8196-8201

2019-07-02 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:08 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:00 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:57 AM Aris Merchant >> wrote: >> > > > 8201 Aris 3.0 Just Make Them Write It Out >> > > AGAINST.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8196-8201

2019-07-02 Thread Aris Merchant
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:00 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:57 AM Aris Merchant > wrote: > > > > 8201 Aris 3.0 Just Make Them Write It Out > > > AGAINST. The fix above (8200) does a better job at the fix. > > > > > > > Please read the comment; this fixes

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8196-8201

2019-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:57 AM Aris Merchant wrote: > > > 8201 Aris 3.0 Just Make Them Write It Out > > AGAINST. The fix above (8200) does a better job at the fix. > > > > Please read the comment; this fixes a different problem, not the same one. I sympathize with the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8196-8201

2019-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
Uh, doesn't distributing with an incorrect AI listed invalidate the decision if the lack of correct essential parameter is noted? (we just discussed that I think? Maybe I missed part of that.) CoE: the Proposal Pool is not empty, it contains the proposal noted below. Also, in R107, the

Re: Fwd: Re: DIS: Proto: Moots are moot

2019-07-02 Thread Jason Cobb
I'm not sure that the outcome of the Agoran Decision includes the margin by which it was made, so the "less than a 2/3 majority" clause might not be effective. (Also, minor nitpick: 2/3 is a supermajority, not a majority.) Also, this makes it even more likely that a vote might get split

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8180-8187

2019-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
Did the below proposals ever get resolved? -G. On 6/22/2019 4:37 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: CoE:  This leaves out my votes on Telnaior's behalf, which change the outcome of at least one proposal I think (8184). On 6/22/2019 11:43 AM, D. Margaux wrote: I hereby resolve the Agoran decisions

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fwd: Resolving Prime Minister election

2019-07-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 7/1/2019 10:54 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: What would people feel about bringing that requirement back? I’d make it a Class 1 crime, not committable more than once in a week, and with exceptions for emails sent primarily in an official or judicial capacity. Why don't we just make it a