On 24 Jul 2019, 08:53, Jason Cobb < jason.e.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, is there any way that I can get CFJ 3645?
I'm sorry, that's a typo - Alexis' scam was judged in CFJ 3465, not 3645.
-twg
2. If you think a couple weeks is a long time to decide a case...
Oh, I get this comment now.
1. I think it's a troubling result;
Well if "publish" is as broken as I think it is, you did "publish" a
report :P, but assuming a functioning definition of "publish", I agree
that it's
I haven't even started reading the thing, but this is already scary:
Called by Aris: 20 Jun 2018 19:17:20
Assigned to PSS: 24 Jun 2018 21:48:55
PSS Recused: 01 Aug 2018 03:38:12
Assigned to
On 7/23/2019 8:53 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> Also, is there any way that I can get CFJ 3645? It is missing from G.'s
> database and I couldn't find it at a glance in the a-b or a-o archives.
Ok it's there now:
https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3645
two thoughts:
1. I think it's
I don't see any explicit prohibition on using a single intent to perform
a dependent action multiple times. Is this intentional?
--
Jason Cobb
well by doing it with notice he'll also have to give an announcement so its
basically nested
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:33 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
> Sorry, where is it specified that e can do this with Notice? I certainly
> see "by announcement", but not "with Notice" in Rule 2574.
>
> Jason Cobb
Sorry, where is it specified that e can do this with Notice? I certainly
see "by announcement", but not "with Notice" in Rule 2574.
Jason Cobb
On 7/23/19 8:15 PM, Rebecca wrote:
E knows
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:14 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
You can do this by announcement without notice, as
CFJ 3695: No zombies or other act-on-behalf communications allowed in space
battles (my fault for the judgement I'm afraid):
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2019-January/039826.html
On 7/23/2019 5:04 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
I think this is one we dealt
E knows
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 10:14 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
> You can do this by announcement without notice, as per Rule 2532.
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 10:40 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
> >
> > I intend to flip Telnaior's master switch to Agora, with Notice.
> >
> >
>
--
>From R. Lee
You can do this by announcement without notice, as per Rule 2532.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 10:40 AM Kerim Aydin wrote:
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> I intend to flip Telnaior's master switch to Agora, with Notice.
>
>
I think this is one we dealt with in Feb when the first battle
including a zombie was resolved, I'll go look.
On 7/23/2019 4:56 PM, Rebecca wrote:
CFJ?
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:51 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
I don't think this works because the rules require the combatant to
"communicate" the
I mean honestly it wouldn't be too hard to just have the principal do this
10 times
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:57 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
> Maybe later... On a phone atm
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 7:56 PM Rebecca wrote:
>
> > CFJ?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:51 AM Jason Cobb
> wrote:
> >
> >
Maybe later... On a phone atm
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 7:56 PM Rebecca wrote:
> CFJ?
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:51 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
>
> > I don't think this works because the rules require the combatant to
> > "communicate" the amount of energy e will spend. A player cannot
> >
CFJ?
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:51 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
> I don't think this works because the rules require the combatant to
> "communicate" the amount of energy e will spend. A player cannot
> act-on-behalf to communicate.
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019, 6:57 PM Rebecca wrote:
>
> > Just agree to
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:43 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
>
> Actually, everyone should destroy their spaceship. Then clause 3 has
> equal standing for both.
>
> I destroy the spaceship in my possession.
Me too.
Back in Feb we'd spotted a lot of these bugs and were on the verge of
"major fix or repeal" but then D. Margaux got that clever game freeze idea
wanted to try so we froze it without any fixes - this is just like digging
up a rotting corpse at this point lol.
(that's nothing against the idea -
On 7/23/19 6:07 PM, Rebecca wrote:
Well fine, I resolve the space battle between nch and Jason Cobb by the
following steps
"1) N Energy is revoked from each Spaceship, where N is the lesser
of the Spaceship's Energy balance and the amount of Energy
decided on by the
yeah so sign up to it
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:00 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
> Oh, sorry, that's the contract. My mistake
>
> Jason Cobb
>
> On 7/23/19 6:58 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> >
> > On 7/23/19 6:56 PM, Rebecca wrote:
> >> [R. Lee has the authority to act on my behalf for all space battle
> >>
On 7/23/19 5:57 PM, Rebecca wrote:
"These two
players are the "combatants" of the Space Battle, and the two
Spaceships are then "engaging" in the Space Battle until it is
resolved."
So if "the two spaceships" don't exist anymore, nobody is "engaging in
the Space Battle"
"These two
players are the "combatants" of the Space Battle, and the two
Spaceships are then "engaging" in the Space Battle until it is
resolved."
So if "the two spaceships" don't exist anymore, nobody is "engaging in
the Space Battle"
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:53 AM nch
On 7/23/19 5:51 PM, Rebecca wrote:
According to my interpretation of the rules, a space battle ends as soon as
there aren't two spaceships involved. And so I believe (until a CFJ
directs me to believe to the contrary) that I have nothing to resolve
Can you cite what clause makes you believe
Yeah I pointed that out, sorry for my mistake
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:50 AM nch wrote:
>
> On 7/23/19 5:48 PM, Rebecca wrote:
> > You can only engage in a space battle IF NEITHER PARTY HAS BEEN IN ONE
> FOR
> > 24 HOURS
> >
> > So I believe the twg Jason battle was never initiated, certainly
According to my interpretation of the rules, a space battle ends as soon as
there aren't two spaceships involved. And so I believe (until a CFJ
directs me to believe to the contrary) that I have nothing to resolve
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:43 AM Jason Cobb wrote:
> Actually, everyone should
On 7/23/19 5:48 PM, Rebecca wrote:
You can only engage in a space battle IF NEITHER PARTY HAS BEEN IN ONE FOR
24 HOURS
So I believe the twg Jason battle was never initiated, certainly no battle
between nch and Jason was
A Space Battle CANNOT be initiated if either of the two involved
Wow, these rules are so incredibly broken.
Jason Cobb
On 7/23/19 6:49 PM, Rebecca wrote:
Oh nope, it's spaceships, so it works. Ignore me!
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 8:49 AM Rebecca wrote:
You can only engage in a space battle IF NEITHER PARTY HAS BEEN IN ONE FOR
24 HOURS
So I believe the
I probably don't have enough time to write this tonight so I'm just
going to solicit feedback on this idea.
Change asset definitions such that the default is Semi-destructible,
where it can only be destroyed with consent. This prevents a (pretty
common) bug where an asset is unintentionally
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:38 PM nch wrote:
> On 7/23/19 5:27 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> > Hey, I was actually going to do this :P.
> >
> > I will expend 5 energy in my space battle.
>
> Since this is about to get more broken anyway we might as well discuss
> this part: If I haven't declared the
On 7/23/19 5:39 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
The list and requirement is only guarded by a SHOULD, so I think this
still works.
In this particular case it works either way, I've already sent the
message. But if I hadn't I think it'd be ambiguous.
The list and requirement is only guarded by a SHOULD, so I think this
still works.
Jason Cobb
On 7/23/19 6:38 PM, nch wrote:
On 7/23/19 5:27 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
Hey, I was actually going to do this :P.
I will expend 5 energy in my space battle.
Since this is about to get more broken
On 7/23/19 5:27 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
Hey, I was actually going to do this :P.
I will expend 5 energy in my space battle.
Since this is about to get more broken anyway we might as well discuss
this part: If I haven't declared the amount of energy I expend, which I
may have secretly done,
On 7/23/19 12:29 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
No, it was a joke, sorry. I'm sure this wasn't intended.
For the record, I intended this on my proposal. I just got too busy with
work stuff to do this immediately after it passed and was hoping no one
would notice before I did it.
I just kind of
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 1:25 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
>
> 4. Any player CAN create a gift in eir possession by announcement.
>
> 5. A player CANNOT create a gift by any means.
On further thought, this version might end up being IRRELEVANT. A
judge might say "gifts are a contract currency entirely
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:15 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
> A player generally CAN become a party to an existing contract by
> announcement. However, if the contract explicitly limits the
> persons who can become party to itself, any person not
> fulfilling those
No, it was a joke, sorry. I'm sure this wasn't intended. I just kind of
like this bug (although I know it has bad consequences).
Jason Cobb
On 7/23/19 1:08 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 4:39 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
On 7/23/19 6:27 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
Amend
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 4:39 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> On 7/23/19 6:27 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
>
> > Amend Rule 2591 by replacing the text "Spaceships are a class of fixed
> > asset" with "Spaceships are a class of fixed indestructible asset".
>
> Now, why would you go and try to remove the
On 7/23/19 6:27 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote:
Amend Rule 2591 by replacing the text "Spaceships are a class of fixed
asset" with "Spaceships are a class of fixed indestructible asset".
Now, why would you go and try to remove the feature that has interesting
consequences for the space game?
"A player who owns a Pilotable Spaceship in the same Sector as one
of eir opponents' Pilotable Spaceships CAN, by announcement,
initiate a Space Battle between the two Spaceships. These two
players are the "combatants" of the Space Battle, and the two
Spaceships are then
I disagree. There's no text that says the Space Battle ends when one of
the involved spaceships ceases to exist. I argue that you still have an
obligation to resolve the Space Battle (at least once Aris communicates
eir energy spent).
Jason Cobb
On 7/23/19 2:30 AM, Rebecca wrote:
A space
A space battle is between two spaceships not people. So now that you don't
have a spaceship, the battle instantly ends.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 4:03 PM Jason Cobb wrote:
> I wonder... I destroy the spaceship in my possession. (Sorry, R. Lee, if
> this makes your life hell).
>
> Jason Cobb
>
>
Wow, I'm an idiot. I guess I have to wait 24 hours for my test, then.
Jason Cobb
On 7/23/19 2:18 AM, Jason Cobb wrote:
Oh, look! The CHoJ actually works again!
I pledge not to create any pledges for the next 24 hours.
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