Re: DIS: Proto: Abercrombie and Fitch

2011-06-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >   b) Each week, the top three Farmers CAN and SHALL (in order, without >      repetition among that week's selections) specify exactly one role >      that will be in play during the following week. At the beginning >      of each week, all roles

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Don't want these things lying around.

2011-04-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > This is only for a unilateral promise (one that is open to everyone) and the > requirement of notice ensure that it can't be suddenly revoked. This allows > creation of reusable promises that are claimable by everyone without > permanently hamper

Re: DIS: Agora on Wikipedia

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Walker created a Wikipedia page for Agora. And it hasn't been deleted > yet! I'm glad our game has become notable enough to be included. It's not notable enough. Just give it time. -root

Re: DIS: Shall we play a game?

2011-04-17 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Quazie wrote: > The last card game had open hands and worked well I think.  I like the idea > of random assets that you gain sparsely that have the power to do various > things. I've been playing a lot of Innovation lately: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgam

Re: DIS: Proto: Space Alert

2010-06-10 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > At any time during the journey > may he create a Threat by specifying the following: "At any time" may be a bit generous. The Enemy could watch what the players do and then submit threats at 23:55 specially designed to avoid what the pla

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2786 assigned to G.

2010-04-30 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Currently, the rules preclude /dev/null from being a person, agreements > are not defined (only roughly alluded to in R101).  /dev/null does not > fit the definition of a nomic for foreign relations (these days, that > would allow Claustronomic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Not All Bad

2009-12-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:34 PM, comex wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> If anyone else wants to be Dealor, go ahead. > > A scam like you propose is a serious breach of trust; I for one would > not worry about keeping an office but focus on not being exiled. Forging ema

DIS: Agora: the Movie

2009-09-07 Thread Ian Kelly
http://agorathemovie.com/ Strangely, it doesn't seem to cover the Mousetrap or any of Agora's other defining moments. -root

Re: DIS: A short eulogy for a Python script

2009-08-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:05 AM, ais523 wrote: > Incidentally, this sort of thing is the reason that nowadays I set my > editors to save backups in a completely different directory to the > actual file, although it wouldn't have helped in this case. This sort of thing is the main reason I use a VC

Re: DIS: Bank with automatic price adjustments "The Goods" style?

2009-08-19 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Elliott > Hird wrote: >> 2009/8/19 Sgeo : >>> The system used by the guild "The Goods" in A Tale In The Desert is >>> described in http://wiki.atitd.net/tale3/Guilds/The_Goods/FAQ/The_System >>> . How would

Re: DIS: What is wrong with you all?

2009-07-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > This can be accomplished > (without limiting the powers available) by assigning multiple limited > use powers to a single card. Hm. Anybody up for dice? -root

Re: DIS: What is wrong with you all?

2009-07-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > In my estimation, the primary cause of the recent lull is not Cards in > and of itself but it's poor execution. We adopted a card proposal that > was broken (half the cards did not initially work) and two of the > primary recordkeepors for cards

Re: DIS: What is wrong with you all?

2009-07-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:08 AM, ais523 wrote: > I am starting to get very, very annoyed at the moment, about Cards. I think the basic problem with cards in an online nomic is that they add a totally unnecessary level of abstraction. Cards are simply a mechanism for pseudo-randomly distributing v

DIS: Re: OFF: Salutations!

2009-07-24 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Kenner Gordon wrote: > *** You have died *** > > Would you like to RESTART, REPLY to this e-mail, or QUIT? >> > RESTART

DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

2009-05-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > -Tiger, who also did away with the "Geo. Mean" since e didn't know > what it meant. It's just a fancy name for the square root of the product. The reason for it is that the product has the annoying property of increasing quadratically as

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Stepping down

2009-05-18 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Roger Hicks wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 06:34, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 2:59 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> Is anybody willing to take over my offices?  I just don't seem to have >>> enough time for Agora an

DIS: Stepping down

2009-05-18 Thread Ian Kelly
Is anybody willing to take over my offices? I just don't seem to have enough time for Agora any more. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Deputization intent

2009-05-15 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ed Murphy wrote: >> Create a new power-1 rule reading as follows: >> {{ >>       The Herald SHALL, as soon as possible after the enactment of this >>       rule, initiate an Agoran Decision to award ais523 a degree for eir >>       thesis on the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 remanded to ais523 by Goethe (AFFIRM), Pavitra (AFFIRM), Wooble (REASSIGN), coppro (REASSIGN)

2009-05-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > As noted previously, REMAND is as reasonable a way to punt as any > if the panel fails to produce a majority decision. This assumes one subscribes to the theory that punting is reasonable to begin with. -root

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 remanded to ais523 by Goethe (AFFIRM), Pavitra (AFFIRM), Wooble (REASSIGN), coppro (REASSIGN)

2009-05-12 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Goethe moves to AFFIRM:                 05 May 2009 00:38:55 GMT > Pavitra moves to AFFIRM:                05 May 2009 04:35:03 GMT > Wooble moves to REASSIGN:               05 May 2009 12:41:41 GMT > coppro moves to REASSIGN:               11 Ma

Re: DIS: [IADoP] A Quick Poll

2009-05-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Or perhaps I could continue to distribute them as soon as possible, but also > including a summary of all ongoing elections in my report. I'm more likely to vote if they're in batches, especially since I'm usually too lazy to actually read

Re: DIS: Proto: Canon

2009-05-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > Proto: Canon > > Add the following text to some rule or another: > >      Canon is a player switch tracked by the Conductor.  The possible >      values of Canon are the set of all finite-length sequences of >      pitches.

DIS: Proto: Canon

2009-05-11 Thread Ian Kelly
Proto: Canon Add the following text to some rule or another: Canon is a player switch tracked by the Conductor. The possible values of Canon are the set of all finite-length sequences of pitches. The default value is the empty sequence. A player CAN flip eir Canon by an

DIS: Proto-contest: Red November

2009-05-08 Thread Ian Kelly
Second draft. I'll start the process of making this an actual contract in a couple days if there are no further comments. 1. This is a public contract called Red November. This contract is intended to be a contest. The contestmaster CAN add axes to this contract by announcement. The cont

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deeper precedence problem

2009-05-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:23 PM, comex wrote: > Another option is that, in order to interpret the Rules at any > particular instant, we should use the guidelines specified in the > /last/ instant.  Thus at the moment a problematic low-power rule is > enacted, we use the rules from a moment ago that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deeper precedence problem

2009-05-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:03 PM, comex wrote: >>> I don't buy that.  The rules are self-empowered, per R2141: "A rule is >>> a type of instrument with the capacity to govern the game generally." >>>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deeper precedence problem

2009-05-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:03 PM, comex wrote: >> I don't buy that.  The rules are self-empowered, per R2141: "A rule is >> a type of instrument with the capacity to govern the game generally." >> Suppose I were to publish a document like the following: > > I agree with everything that follows this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deeper precedence problem

2009-05-07 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Gratuitous reply: > > I see what you're saying, and that this is generally what R1482 > intends, but I have a hard time saying that a claim "This rule takes > precedence over matters of X" is not a direct specification of > a means of determinin

DIS: Re: BUS: Caste / AAA pledge

2009-05-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > I pledge to spend a major chord to increase the caste of any player > who transfers me one of the following for such explicit purpose, as > soon as possible after such a transfer occurs: > > * five X crops > * eight crops of any other variety or

DIS: Re: BUS: A couple more CfJs

2009-05-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Rodlen wrote: > I CfJ on the following statement: > > "Not treating Agora right good forever violates rule 101." See CFJ 1945. -root

Re: DIS: More invasion thoughts

2009-05-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Sgeo wrote: > Making it so that only one new person a day can register might slow > down invasions. Perhaps making it so that only 2 people can register > in any given block of two consecutive days might also help in the case > that two people happen to try to regis

Re: DIS: More invasion thoughts

2009-05-06 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Sgeo wrote: > Making it so that only one new person a day can register might slow > down invasions. Perhaps making it so that only 2 people can register > in any given block of two consecutive days might also help in the case > that two people happen to try to regis

DIS: Re: BUS: Fixing that bug

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I submit the following proposal, named "Fixing contestmaster > flipping", with AI=1, II=1 > (( > Amend the sentence in rule 2136 now reading: > ( > A contract's contestmaster CAN be flipped by any player without 3 >      objections, or as sp

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Red November

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >> 46-60 minutes, depending on the number of gnomes.  The board image >> linked to in the appendix has the time track running around the edge >> of the board. > > It would be good to have this explicit, probably in paragraph 5. Okay, I'll add

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Red November

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Quazie wrote: > What if the room connected by the open hatch is at high water and the > other is at low water?  No change? No change, there's no medium water state. > Also, how many minutes does each gnome start with?  Is there some > representation of the track?

Re: DIS: Proto-contest: Red November

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I am having serious trouble figuring out what happens here if multiple > gnomes abandon their comrades, and the sub is lost. The phrasing used in the original rules is that a gnome who abandons has eir winning conditions reversed, which would i

DIS: Proto-contest: Red November

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Kelly
Proto-contest: Red November 1. This is a public contract called Red November. This contract is intended to be a contest. The contestmaster CAN add the Y axis to and remove any other axis from this contract by announcement. 2. A contestant to this contract who is currently involved in an

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Office Report

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I'm having the same trouble when I use gmail in FRC.  Couldn't figure out > how to fix so I'd take pointers on that too if anyone has 'em.  For here, > it's often worth looking at how things look in the archives instead of > an email client, I t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 assigned to ais523

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > coppro wrote: > >> I support and do so. > > H. Justiciar root, any preference on this one? Sure, I make CFJ 2482a hot. There should be a lukewarm option, indicating no preference but allowing the CotC to go ahead and assign a panel. -root

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2490 assigned to comex

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > [This is what happens when you forget to disqualify.] Yeah, I'm bad about that. But why didn't you just assign it to Yally (or somebody else who was standing at the time)? At this point, either comex will recuse emself and you'll have to reassi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No forced championship wins

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: >> Renaissance is storable indefinitely. >> >> -root > But you can't accumulate it - you can't build up to another one while > you have one stored. True, although I find it difficult to i

DIS: Re: BUS: Two ratification proposals

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I submit the following proposal, entitled {I Fone}, II=0 > > {{{ > Create a new power-1 rule with the following text: > >      If a public message claims to have been sent from a particular >      device or class of device, that claim is self-rati

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No forced championship wins

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > If it is, we should probably generalise it even further, causing all win > conditions to give people medals, and letting them cash them in for wins > any time they feel like it (whilst running the cleanup instantly). Why > should champion's conte

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No forced championship wins

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > If it is, we should probably generalise it even further, causing all win > conditions to give people medals, and letting them cash them in for wins > any time they feel like it (whilst running the cleanup instantly). Why > should champion's conte

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Research

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> The second deals with the paradoxability of ratification. Regardless of >>> the outcome of the first CFJ, the second is potentially

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Medals

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, comex wrote: > I don't like my notes wasted :| Boo hoo. I don't like my medals wasted. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: Research

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I CFJ {If the next Registrar's report did not list me as a player, and I > subsequently ratified it using the mechanism specified in R2202 > (Ratification Without Objection), I would be able to go off hold.} Er. When did you go on hold to begin

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Medals

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > root, I suggest you create some more rests to make forcing wins at you > more expensive. It would also make it more expensive for me to use it when I want to. I think one is ideal. -root

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scrolls of Agora

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > However, since that's defined under "unique" patent titles, there may > be an error in that only the last Maniac should have the title.  Unless > Maniac was somehow made non-unique prior to the wins. It occurs to me that there may have been Man

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scrolls of Agora

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:45 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin >>> wrote: >>> > However, since th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scrolls of Agora

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 13:45 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin >> wrote: >> > However, since that's defined under "unique" patent titles, there >> may &

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] The Scrolls of Agora

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > However, since that's defined under "unique" patent titles, there may > be an error in that only the last Maniac should have the title.  Unless > Maniac was somehow made non-unique prior to the wins. Good catch. It was listed as unique right u

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Medals

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:15 PM, comex wrote: > 2009/5/4 Ian Kelly : >>> I'm actually mildly curious as to why you haven't done the Win >>> Announcement yet. >> >> I'm hoping to save it until a time when I don't already have MwoP. > > This

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Medals

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 12:51 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> I just noticed I've been neglecting part of the Scorekeepor's report. >> In the future, this will be published with the rest of the report. >> >> Meda

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Gimme!

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 12:24 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> > I performed duties related to Fantasy Rules Contest in a timely manner >> > during April. >> > &g

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: >> Contest:        Fantasy Rules Contest >> Contestmaster:  Murphy >> Axes:           X >> Awardable Pts:  25+25i > Minor CoE: 25+0i Admitted, thanks. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2482 assigned to ais523

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Mon, 4 May 2009, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:02 -0400, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Alex Smith wrote: I judge this TRUE; rule 101 has higher Power, so by rule 1482 it does indeed t

DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I revoke 3 x-points from comex. > I revoke 2 x-points from Quazie. These revocations also failed due to comex and Quazie not having any points to revoke at the time. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] SoA Actions

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:04 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > I revoke 3 points from coppro. This failed; coppro did not have any points to revoke. -root

DIS: Re: BUS: [DM] (i)nventory

2009-05-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I revoke 3 x-points from comex. > I award 8 y-points to comex. > I revoke 3 y-points from comex. > I award 2 x-points to comex. > I award 10 y-points to comex. > > I revoke 2 x-points from Quazie. > I award 3 y-points to Quazie. > I award 5 x-poin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] The game goes on

2009-05-03 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Dvorak Herring wrote: > Submission for "Scamster-for-a-day": > Change the power of Rule 2228 below 1.7 thus not allowing it to secure Rests > at power 1.7. This would cause rests to be unsecured allowing one to create > and destroy rests at will. "Unsecured" doesn'

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2477 assigned to ais523

2009-05-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >>> I award the patent title of Champion to root. >>> I award the patent title of Minister Without Portfolio to root. >>> I a

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2477 assigned to ais523

2009-05-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> According to my understanding of the situation, ais523 needs to be >> awarded MwoP for eir win by High Score; once that is done, I'll work out >> who the MwoPs

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2477 assigned to ais523

2009-05-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > According to my understanding of the situation, ais523 needs to be > awarded MwoP for eir win by High Score; once that is done, I'll work out > who the MwoPs are. That was done by deputisation on April 6. The current MwoPs are comex, OscarMeyr,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Herald Must Announce a Change in Speaker

2009-05-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM, comex wrote: > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >> Amend Rule 402 (Identity of the Speaker) by adding the following to >> the end of the first paragraph: >> >>      As soon as possible after the Speaker changes, the Herald SHALL > > Suggest

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Now officially a Champion's Contest!

2009-05-02 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 20:19 -0400, Sgeo wrote: >> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> > Zing! Vext cwm fly jabs Kurd qoph >> >> Will we all get to learn what the Clues were? > > The Sec

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No more cronjobs at midnight

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 16:21 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >>       An entity's share price index is a non-negative integer, >>       defaulting to 0.  If an entity's share price index would become >>       a negative val

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Last week's results

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I award 0 points to root (for Mastermind; colours in the wrong order). It looks like the reason I got this wrong was because I mistakenly reversed the black and white pegs -- I'm used to the black pegs meaning "right color in the right place", a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No more cronjobs at midnight

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >      (8) A player CAN spend share value 25 to split eir shares; eir >          share price index is halved (rounded down), and for each >          share of eir issue, an additional share of eir issue is >          created in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No more cronjobs at midnight

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: > I'll vote FOR a proposal like this if it would also repeal notes and > replace them with something new and interesting the day after. Rough proto for a new economy. Comments? Retitle Rule 2126 as "Shares" and amend

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Manuel Lanctot wrote: > I register. Welcome back! -root

DIS: Re: BUS: No more cronjobs at midnight

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I submit the following proposal (titled "Ease the rush", AI 2, II 1): > > Remove the text > {{{ >          unless another player has already done so >          during that Birthday. > }}} > from rule 2126. > > > Arguments: Loads of peop

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: May I please have another?

2009-05-01 Thread Ian Kelly
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Quazie wrote: >> Or maybe, have a system under which people could "pre-recuse" themselves >> from specific cases, so they couldn't be assigned them. (Different >> people have different opinions on which cases are difficult; personally, >> I don't think 2477 is at a

DIS: Re: BUS: Thesis, compressed

2009-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
Really, the idea that R2105 (The Map of Agora) has been a traditional target of scamsters is a bit exaggerated. Here's the full history. The map was created by Maud's proposal 4735. This wasn't the result of a scam or anything, but people were itching a bit for a map, and voters liked the propos

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Midweek Distribution 6238 - 6256

2009-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> 6254  Mitigate point scams                       O  1.0  1   root > AGAINST x 2 - there's no requirement this would have to be used for It's not intended for scams only. -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Generalize equity

2009-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > Heh, I have a proposal in the pool to achieve more or less exactly the > same effect, at the moment. Mine tries to fix the immediate aftermath of > the scams win, though (restoring the points of players whose points were > unintentionally reset)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Judgements, CFJs 2471-4

2009-04-29 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Quazie wrote: > When I became a player is relevant, and what constitutes a valid > registration is relevant. So the judgements should be left alone, since that's what they currently determine. -root

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451a assigned to BobTHJ, Rodlen, root

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM, comex wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Why wouldn't 18 be appropriate?  It past cases repeat offenses have >> been discounted (punishing only for the first one), but in this case the >> reward for each instance was additive (each bre

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451a assigned to BobTHJ, Rodlen, root

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:40 PM, comex wrote: > I closed a different NoV, which alleged the breach of a Power=1 rule. > I was then judged GUILTY on a separate case alleging the breach of a > Power=3 rule for the same action. Thanks, I didn't realize there were two separate NoVs involved. Now, wh

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451a assigned to BobTHJ, Rodlen, root

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:31 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> So Judge Taral is required to destroy the rest that was created when >> comex closed the NoV, and this penalty should be allowed to stand. > > The question here is, d

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2451a assigned to BobTHJ, Rodlen, root

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Rodlen wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> >> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2451a >> >>  Appeal 2451a   >> >> Panelist:                              

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Scam

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Quazie wrote: > I'm known for running scams? Okay, maybe not to the same extent as myself, comex, or ehird, but you've been involved before. Remember Glub Glub? -root

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoVs

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Evidence:  I was misled.  When I first saw that Scorekeepor's Report, my > first thought was "what the heck did they do to earn that many points?". Well, I tried to make it as obviously suspicious as possible. That's why we both had *exactly* 5

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: [IADoP] Office Report

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> >> Yally wrote: >> >> > Well ais523 as Speaker is just left over from when Wooble last completed >> > the report. I haven't changed it simply because I have no idea what the >> > MWoP

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6191 - 6195

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> Trivially FALSE.  comex has a rest, which is a Losing Condition. > E burned it off, I thought? E had two; I think e has only burned one off so far. >> But I don't think you would get a paradox out of this anyway; it would >> simply not be a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6191 - 6195

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:17 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> Per CFJ 2450, I award 96+96i points to comex. > > Disclaimer: This message is an attempt to construct a paradox. Nothing > here is definitely false; but it may be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoVs

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM, comex wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> There was no intent to mislead as to the truth of the claim here; the >> intent was that the claim would be questioned and ultimately denied. >> It did not matter to th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoVs

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: >> I intend, with support, to publish the following NoV (I admit this >> one's a bit iffy): root violated Power=1 R2215 by making the statement >> "Admitted.", intended to mislead others as to its effectiveness

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: NoVs

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
people's reports at > face value.) There was no intent to mislead as to the truth of the claim here; the intent was that the claim would be questioned and ultimately denied. It did not matter to the scam whether anyone actually believed the claim was true. > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1

DIS: Re: BUS: Scam

2009-04-28 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> The following is a Win Announcement: >> >> root and coppro have scores x + yi such that xy >= 2500. > > I nominate comex, ehird, and Quazie as Scorekeepor. By the way, this is silly. A

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2452 assigned to root

2009-04-27 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2452 > > ==  CFJ 2452  == > >    Actions can be taken in plain-text attachments sent via a Public >    Forum. > > ==

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

2009-04-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: >      The entities qualified to be assigned as judge of an appeal case >      are the judicial panels consisting of exactly min(3,1+2*R) members >      (where R is the rank of the prior case), where each of the members >      is qualified to be a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-04-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> I was listed as "Arnold Bros", and it said that "ehrid" changed eir >> name to that. If you're going to list my new name, it would make sense >> that it would be properly written; and "ehrid" is unambiguously an >> error. > > That's a typo.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Binding Inquiry Cases

2009-04-26 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >      When a binding inquiry case is eligible for ratification, and it >      has a judgment of TRUE, any player CAN, by announcement, ratify >      the Inquiry Statement. When a binding inquiry case is eligible for >      ratification, and it ha

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2450

2009-04-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > (CFJ 2450: "The Scorekeepor SHALL award me 6N points as defined by Rule > 2234 in relation to Enigma.") > > First, the arguments in CFJ 2451 suggest an obvious solution to this. It > ruled that comex did indeed make such an announcement, sugges

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2454b assigned to Rodlen, ehird, coppro

2009-04-23 Thread Ian Kelly
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> >> Ed Murphy wrote: >> > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2454b >> >> I opine REASSIGN. Yally has twice failed to provide a complete and valid >> reasoning fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registering

2009-04-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I'd say the most logical thing to call em would be 869850178 209745189 > or pr76952a, or even do like "teh mna in teh drak" or whatever e was > called, and refer to em with the shorter 869 while keeping the entire > number combination in th

Re: DIS: Re: Proto-Proposal: Performance Analysis

2009-04-22 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Proposal: Performance Analysis (AI = 1, II = 2) >> >> Create a new Rule with Power 1 and the following text >> >> Performance Analysis is a player switch with values Masterful, Clean >> (default), and Dirty. >> >> If a player is the Accused

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Scheduled actions

2009-04-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> AGAINST because I think it's broken: if you're going to do this, >> explicitly legislate conditional actions instead of the current mess >> of precedents (and get rid of the conditional voting rule) so we know >> exactly what sort of conditional

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Scheduled actions

2009-04-21 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal:  Scheduled actions > (AI = 3, please) > > [Not everyone has access to a server with both cron and mail-sending > capability.  This would allow for things like "At 23:59:59 UTC, if my > caste is Alpha, then I spend to reduce it" to be

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