DIS: Re: BUS: Bad Idea

2009-08-28 Thread Pavitra
Sean Hunt wrote: That Was Easy (AI=1, II=0) {{{ Each person who cast a valid vote FOR this proposal wins the game. }}} I vote FOR this proposal. I retract that and vote AGAINST it. Note that the first vote was valid _at the time I cast it_; i.e., I have cast a valid vote FOR the proposal.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.comwrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? Er, not knowing what one

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh hey you're that Craig? I remember your CFJs fondly. -G. Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. ...how bad were they?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Elliott Hird
Oerjan proposed those. On 2009-06-04, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Craig Daniel wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh hey you're that Craig? I remember your CFJs fondly. -G. Huh. I don't remember them at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Elliott Hird
With a dot? On 2009-06-04, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: That being the case: I register. And now I do so TTPF, specifying the nickname teucer.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/list.php?caller=Craig The server is taking too long to respond.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Benjamin Caplan wrote: Kerim Aydin wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.comwrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Not bad at all. Actually it's the INSANE proposals I remember the most... definitely added to the game in a good way. -G. Oerjan proposed those. I'm pretty sure it was several by Craig. -G.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Not bad at all.  Actually it's the INSANE proposals I remember the most... definitely added to the game in a good way.  -G. Oerjan proposed those. I'm pretty sure it was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Elliott Hird
Thought you meant the concept. On 2009-06-04, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Not bad at all. Actually it's the INSANE proposals I remember the most... definitely added to the game in a good way. -G. Oerjan proposed those. I'm pretty

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 22:55 -0500, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 22:31 -0500, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: Can non-players get crim CFJs? What if players committed crimes prior to eir registration? If you were a second-class person, would its parties be liable? Kyle Marek-Spartz - KDØGTK Non-players /can/ be crimmed, but it's very hard

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: On 2009-06-04, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: Not bad at all. Actually it's the INSANE proposals I remember the most... definitely added to the game in a good way. -G. Oerjan proposed those. I'm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/list.php?caller=Craig The server is taking too long to respond. It responded to me within 2 seconds (but then it's less than 50 feet away from me so YMMV). There's a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/6/4 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: It responded to me within 2 seconds (but then it's less than 50 feet away from me so YMMV). D'you think that might have something to do with being on your network? It takes ~30s average for me; often I just give up looking for anything. It's really

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: It takes ~30s average for me; often I just give up looking for anything. It's really quite annoying; I'm willing to host it if you decide making its speed usable at all is a good idea... ...and if you don't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread comex
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/6/4 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: It responded to me within 2 seconds (but then it's less than 50 feet away from me so YMMV). D'you think that might have something to do with being on your network?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, comex wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/6/4 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: It responded to me within 2 seconds (but then it's less than 50 feet away from me so YMMV). D'you think that might have something

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 13:25 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, comex wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/6/4 Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com: It responded to me within 2 seconds (but then it's less than 50 feet away

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/6/4 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com: ...and if you don't think setting it up to suffer the same fate as Bayes is a bad idea. Because not developing a program = not hosting a few PHP files and an SQL database, and nobody keeps local backups.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Roger Hicks
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:23, Ed Murphyemurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: teucer wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/list.php?caller=Craig The server is taking too long to respond. It responded to me within 2 seconds

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote: The speed of an internet connection is not just to do with how fast it is at the ends, but also how fast it is in the middle, which tends to depend more on politics between the various companies involved in the Internet than any good technical reasons.

DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Jun 3, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Luke Lockhart wrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome, Luke! - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Alex Smith ais...@bham.ac.uk wrote: Also, I'm surprised nobody mentioned CFJ 2003 yet. (http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2003, for the benefit of the players who have just joined and might not know how to look up historical CFJs yet.) On Thu,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Alex Smith wrote: The speed of an internet connection is not just to do with how fast it is at the ends, but also how fast it is in the middle, which tends to depend more on politics between the various companies involved in the Internet than any good

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: The server isn't CPU-intensive (load average = 0.05), but it does have to compete for bandwidth with the family's incoming videos and torrents, plus it hosts one 50 MB file that gets downloaded ~40 times per month. Heh. my home connection is reaching you

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-04 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Kerim Aydinke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: The server isn't CPU-intensive (load average = 0.05), but it does have to compete for bandwidth with the family's incoming videos and torrents, plus it hosts one 50 MB file that gets

DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.comwrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? -Yally

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? -Yally I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: Can non-players get crim CFJs? What if players committed crimes prior to eir registration? If you were a second-class person, would its parties be liable? If it were, then Luke's message would have been ambiguous.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.comwrote: I have no idea what is going on here but wish to join you. Welcome to Agora. Is there any nickname you would like to use? Er, not knowing what one is wishing and not using

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Paul VanKoughnett
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Aaron Goldfein

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Luke Lockhart luke.lockh...@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get deregistered?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get deregistered? You never registered, at least not recently.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kyle Marek-Spartz
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit, when did I get

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Kyle Marek-Spartz zeckal...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Craig Daniel wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You're not a player. I'm not? Shit,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Craig Daniel wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: I call a CFJ on the statement: Luke Lockhart is a player. Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this time. I'd retract the second one; you don't need to be a player to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Craig Daniel teu...@pobox.com wrote: I call a CFJ on the statement: Luke Lockhart is a player. Having restored my playerhood, I do so again, probably efficaciously this time. It was effective the first time. You can retract the second case.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Ed Murphy
teucer wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You never registered, at least not recently. I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for IIRC you are also the Craig that was registered from 25 Apr 02 to 9 Mar 03.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: teucer wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote: You never registered, at least not recently. I believed I registered on January 3, and was immediately NOV'd for IIRC you are also the Craig that was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Craig Daniel
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh hey you're that Craig?  I remember your CFJs fondly.  -G. Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. ...how bad were they?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

2009-06-03 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Craig Daniel wrote: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: Oh hey you're that Craig?  I remember your CFJs fondly.  -G. Huh. I don't remember them at all. But yes, I'm the same Craig. ...how bad were they? Not bad at all. Actually