DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-12 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote: Surprising no one, I cast each vote a number of times equal to my voting limit on the decision in question. 6549 0 2.0 coppro Red More Voting Fun PRESENT (why is this important?) Cross the Floor currently doesn't work, so I decided we might as well make

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: 6569  1   1.0  coppro           Green    Quorum Busted 6560  1   1.0  coppro           Green    Anjusty 6561  1   1.0  coppro           Green    Contests Should Reward Themselves 6562  1   1.0  coppro           Green    

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote: 6569 1 1.0 coppro GreenQuorum Busted 6560 1 1.0 coppro GreenAnjusty 6561 1 1.0 coppro GreenContests Should Reward Themselves 6562 1 1.0 coppro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-09 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:  (If this happened a lot, then things would eventually tilt toward by now you should be automating or paying more attention.) Considering how often it happened the last time we had a non-automated promotor, I'd expect

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-09 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: I vote as follows, casting each vote 5 times if it's a Green decision and 3 times if it's a Red one: FYI your VLOP is 5 for Green, 1 for Red, 2 for Purple.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-05 Thread Ed Murphy
c. wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:30 AM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: and if 2029 is modified or repealed, it should be via a scam that's powerful enough to modify it, probably with everyone not involved in the scam try to stop it. It would be a fitting end for Rule 2029,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: I didn't come up with it came in on a scam, it should go out on a scam (IIRC I first heard it during a phone call with OscarMeyr a year or two ago) but, having heard it, I agree with it (provided that the scam clearly does work, i.e. does not rely on a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Pavitra celestialcognit...@gmail.com wrote: 6551  1   2.0  coppro           Red      Dead Contracts PRESENT, ambiguous. with no party such that the party's basis contains a player or with no parties, and whose basis contains a player? Didn't you say you were in

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-04 Thread comex
You should bump R1698, too. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: --- --- --- Increase the power of Rule 2140 (Power Controls

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-04 Thread Sean Hunt
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: You should bump R1698, too. Sent from my iPhone What about 1551? It would need to be bumped to allow ruleset ratification (we should do that, incidentally), but then so would all the other rules that ratify (merely setting the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, comex com...@gmail.com wrote: You should bump R1698, too. Sent from my iPhone What about 1551? It would need to be bumped to allow ruleset ratification (we should do that, incidentally), but then so would all the other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-04 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Kerim Aydin ke...@u.washington.edu wrote: The other option is not to bump anywhere, but create a new and very specific 3.9 rule for proposals:  while some other instruments of power 3 (ratification etc.) can set powerrule, proposals cannot. Third option proto:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: Third option proto: Historical Preservation, AI-3: {{ Create a new Power 3.1 rule entitled Historical Preservation with the following text: {{{ Any proposal that would cause the amendment or repeal of Rules 104, 2105, or 2029 does not take

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 21:08 -0500, comex wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Really? High AI doesn't automatically make things Democratic any more. Title: Majority Leader. Position: The Majority Leader CAN veto a specified ordinary

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread Pavitra
Sean Hunt wrote: Pavitra wrote: AGAINST, it's weird and messes with a deep-rooted concept in the rules. Let's keep by announcement simple, pragmatic, and direct, please. The problem with 'by announcment' is that it is, in many cases, not by announcement. For instance, when you 'endorse the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Pavitra wrote: For instance, it should specify that the triggering action must be by announcement. This proposal would allow a private email acting on behalf of someone to take an action that normally requires public announcement. Hmm? -coppro

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread Sean Hunt
Pavitra wrote: AGAINST, it's weird and messes with a deep-rooted concept in the rules. Let's keep by announcement simple, pragmatic, and direct, please. The problem with 'by announcment' is that it is, in many cases, not by announcement. For instance, when you 'endorse the office', your Pocket

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:04 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Really? High AI doesn't automatically make things Democratic any more. Title: Majority Leader. Position: The Majority Leader CAN veto a specified ordinary decision in its voting period by announcement;

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 21:01 -0500, comex wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:00 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: 6554 1 3.0 coppro GreenGuaranteed to Fail AGAINST x my voting limit on this. If I can veto decisions by announcement, I veto this one 10 times in a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 6:00 PM, ais523 callforjudgem...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: 6554  1   3.0  coppro           Green    Guaranteed to Fail AGAINST x my voting limit on this. If I can veto decisions by announcement, I veto this one 10 times in a row. you can only veto it once before it ceases to be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6549-6564

2009-11-03 Thread Pavitra
Sean Hunt wrote: Pavitra wrote: For instance, it should specify that the triggering action must be by announcement. This proposal would allow a private email acting on behalf of someone to take an action that normally requires public announcement. Hmm? Amend rule 478 (Fora) by appending