Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:51:34 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 5/8/20 12:11 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > They accomplish different things: one searches the global name space and > > the other searches the source code. > > > > Examp

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 3:08:21 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:37 AM Markus Wageringel > > wrote: > > > > Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 09:03:08 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastian Oehms: > >> > >> But if we talk about users who are not interested in code and strings, >

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 9:58:55 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 4:40:52 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> On 5/6/20 11:28 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: >> > >> > And to clarify, this is what you expec

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-07 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 4:40:52 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 5/6/20 11:28 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > And to clarify, this is what you expect users to use instead of > > search_src? ;) > > > And to clarify, neither you no

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-06 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, May 3, 2020 at 4:48:49 PM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 5/2/20 1:55 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > OMG, why does "sage -grep" use the "find" command? > > > > Others have pointed out that "-r" isn't standar

Re: [sage-support] How to use notebook in sage 9.0?

2020-05-06 Thread John H Palmieri
Silly question, but are you sure you are starting up Sage 9.0 when you do all of this ("sage --notebook" or "sage --sh")? If you give an explicit path to the Sage 9.0 version, does that help? Do you have any Sage-related environment variables which could be interfering with things? On

Re: [Simh] Newbie questions about VMS for VAX

2020-05-06 Thread John H. Reinhardt
how system OpenVMS V8.4-2L2  on node EISNER    6-MAY-2020 18:37:11.18 Uptime  8 03:09:41 $ show cpu System: EISNER, AlphaServer DS20 500 MHz -- John H. Reinhardt ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

Re: MSV11-R doc needed

2020-05-06 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
Hmmm.  Smoke??? -- John H. Reinhardt On 5/6/2020 3:30 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Never heard of it, but if you want me to try plugging it into my BA23 let me know. What's the worst that could happen :-) C On 5/6/2020 4:23 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: Hi, I'm looking

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 11:37:57 AM UTC-7, Sébastien Labbé wrote: > > > > On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 7:55:25 PM UTC+2, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 9:59:18 AM UTC-7, Sébastien Labbé wrote: >>> >>> &

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 9:59:18 AM UTC-7, Sébastien Labbé wrote: > > > I feel the same way about functions like search_src() that badly >> reimplement grep (even if they still work). >> > > I am fine with getting rid of the log_* functions, but I definitively want > search_src(),

[sage-devel] Re: Proposal: Deprecate all of sage.finance, sage.media, sage.stats in 9.1

2020-05-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Did you mean 9.2? It's too late to add deprecations to 9.1, in my opinion. On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 2:19:32 PM UTC-7, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > These modules have a very limited amount of code, seem to have seen no > major development for about 10 years, and are (with minor exceptions) >

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-01 Thread John H Palmieri
There is a tradeoff. If I want to search the Sage source code, running "search_src(...)" in Sage is easy, and it's in our documentation, so people might find it. Running '!grep -R -n ... "$SAGE_ROOT"/src/sage' is not quite as easy; if you want the line numbers, you need -n, and it also requires

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-04-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, 19:10 John H Palmieri, > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> >>> On 4/30/20 11

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-04-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 4/30/20 11:16 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > > > I think we should just remove this completely, as ipython nowadays has > > %history magic which certainly can do the same as log_text() > > > > +1 > > I feel the

Re: Charles Lasner [Was: Re: LINC-8]

2020-04-27 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
never had any exchanges with Charles, well, none of significance, but he could be of rather, um, shall we say strong opinion on topics. -- John H. Reinhardt On 4/27/2020 10:40 AM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 09:08:24AM -0500, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote

Re: LINC-8

2020-04-27 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
rd due to complications from the COVID-19 virus.  I'm fuzzy on his exact biography, but he was big in the development of OS/8 for the PDP-8 at DEC.  His current project was an update of OS/8 which he called P?S/8.  Apparently he owned multiple LINC-8's according to comments on the Facebook group. --

Re: [Simh] Has anyone contacted VSI directly about Hobbyist Licenses ?

2020-04-26 Thread John H. Reinhardt
go to VSI.  The new license will not expire until January 1, 2022. -- John H. Reinhardt ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

Re: LINC-8

2020-04-26 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 4/26/2020 5:21 PM, Bob Smith via cctalk wrote: saw a comment that this belonged to CJL. bb That's what they're saying over on the PDP-8 Facebook page. <https://www.facebook.com/groups/decpdp8/> -- John H. Reinhardt On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 4:57 PM William Donzelli via cctalk

[sage-support] Re: Extended Operations on Symbols

2020-04-26 Thread John H Palmieri
sage: var('q') q sage: (q+q^(-1))^(1/2) sqrt(q + 1/q) (By the way, I'm not sure I would call using a fraction field "naive".) On Sunday, April 26, 2020 at 9:01:35 AM UTC-7, Jin Guu wrote: > > I am writing a calculator for various 'q' quantities, and often find that > I need to manipulate

Re: [sage-devel] Re: A possible defect in hypergraph generator of Graph module

2020-04-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 7:59:18 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:26:00 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:56 AM k2wagle wrote: >> > >> > Tried this just now, ge

Re: [sage-devel] Re: A possible defect in hypergraph generator of Graph module

2020-04-21 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 5:26:00 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:56 AM k2wagle > > wrote: > > > > Tried this just now, getting the same error. Open a ticket please. > > This error is already in Sage 9.0 - and this is an example from the > manual! > > It's

[sage-support] Re: How to modify the index of a matrix

2020-04-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 1:01:24 PM UTC-7, Emmanuel Zuñiga wrote: > > Hello, i would like to know how to modify the index of a matrix in > sagemath. As an example, we all know that every object begins in 0, m[0] > and that kind of things. > Now, i need to modify this. to add one to the

[RBW] Re: FS -- New (~10 miles) Paul Mini Moto Set

2020-04-19 Thread John H.
sold On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:17:03 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote: > > Sale pending... > > On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:01:11 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote: >> >> Hey Bunch -- Up for sale is a set (sans brake pads) of barely used (~10 >> miles) Silver anodized Paul Min

[sage-devel] Proposal for Sage 9.2: require "./configure" before "make"

2020-04-18 Thread John H Palmieri
Several of us are in favor of requiring that, in order to build Sage, people should have to run "./configure" before running "make". I would further propose that "make" should not itself then run "configure". Some advantages: - This is the same procedure used with many other software packages.

[RBW] Re: FS -- New (~10 miles) Paul Mini Moto Set

2020-04-17 Thread John H.
Sale pending... On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:01:11 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote: > > Hey Bunch -- Up for sale is a set (sans brake pads) of barely used (~10 > miles) Silver anodized Paul MiniMotos. These are really great brakes, but > unfortunately I need something with a little mo

[RBW] Re: FS -- New (~10 miles) Paul Mini Moto Set

2020-04-16 Thread John H.
, April 15, 2020 at 3:19:12 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote: > > Adding some images and dropping the price to $220 shipped. > > On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 10:01:11 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote: >> >> Hey Bunch -- Up for sale is a set (sans brake pads) of barely used (~10 >> miles)

Re: [sage-support] simple desolve_tides_mpfr crash, even for SageMath Cell Server

2020-04-16 Thread John H Palmieri
Maybe SageCell doesn't have the optional package "tides" installed. This is the same error I see on my own computer without "tides". On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 9:26:21 AM UTC-7, slelievre wrote: > > Here is the error after executing the original poster's code in SageCell. > >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: archlinux: some system package not recognized

2020-04-14 Thread John H Palmieri
I would suggest two things: $ brew install pkg-config and then before building Sage, while in SAGE_ROOT: $ source .homebrew-build-env Then try ./configure to see what it says at the end about system packages. On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 6:21:40 AM UTC-7, David Coudert wrote: > > I

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-04-13 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 3:02:49 PM UTC-7, Matthias Köppe wrote: > > Another variation to try is to use " . .homebrew-build-env " > before the build, which sets some environment variables so that homebrew's > "keg-only packages" are found. > Among other things, this affects libpng via

[RBW] FS -- New (~10 miles) Paul Mini Moto Set

2020-04-13 Thread John H.
Hey Bunch -- Up for sale is a set (sans brake pads) of barely used (~10 miles) Silver anodized Paul MiniMotos. These are really great brakes, but unfortunately I need something with a little more clearance. I'm asking 240$ shipped. To be clear, I'm offering all the included hardware, hangers,

Re: [sage-support] Sage Crash report

2020-04-09 Thread John H Palmieri
Did you look at the file "README.md"? It suggests building in parallel to speed things up. Have you tried that? On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 12:35:58 PM UTC-7, hbetx9 wrote: > > I htink I know what I did, somehow I change the prefix to a directory that > didn't exist. I'm recompiling to see

Re: [sage-support] Building on Catalina

2020-04-08 Thread John H Palmieri
When I have had problems with libpng, it has helped to do "brew install pkg-config". If you happened to start building Sage and then upgraded Homebrew and/or Xcode in the middle of that, or if you've installed any new Homebrew packages, you should probably start over with "make distclean"

[sage-devel] Re: Where to propose addition of change log and updates of documentation ...

2020-04-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-7, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 7:53:07 AM UTC-7, rana-aerea rossa wrote: >> >> I need someone to tell me where to propose three kinds of changes of >> Sagemath. >> (1) I guess Sagemath misses change log for some time.

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-04-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 11:05:31 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 7:15:10 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-7, Matthias Köppe wrote: >>> >>>

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-04-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 7:15:10 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-7, Matthias Köppe wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 8:02:48 PM UTC-4, John H Palmieri wrote: >>> >>> Here's the

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-03-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 6:21:42 PM UTC-7, Matthias Köppe wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 31, 2020 at 8:02:48 PM UTC-4, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> Here's the strange part: if I add the package libpng, then Sage doesn't >> build. With these packages, it builds and p

[sage-devel] Re: ecl build failure when building sage

2020-03-31 Thread John H Palmieri
When the build fails, there should be a message like: The following package(s) may have failed to build... * package: ecl last build time: ... log file:... build directory: /build/directory/is/here/ Check the build directory listed at the end for the file config.log. It

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
, 2020 at 4:07 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: On 3/30/2020 1:37 PM, Mark Matlock via cctalk wrote: > > Bill, >      I have the APL-11 V2.1 source files on a RL02 disk image. I will make it available at http://www.rsx11m.com/

Re: REL APL-11

2020-03-30 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
APL-11 V1.X since it was there in the Fall of 1978 when I started.  We had a couple of DEC LA36's with the APL character set and keyboards. -- John H. Reinhardt

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-03-30 Thread John H Palmieri
r SageMath should install SPKG gmp... ## > ## ## > configure:10415: will use system package and not install SPKG gmp > > > > This seems to come from AX_ABSOLUTE_HEADER > > > > On Monday, March 30, 2020 at 12:18:41 PM

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-03-30 Thread John H Palmieri
ote: > > I vaguely recall seeing similar errors on Homebrew, they were due to > stale Homebrew. Could you try updating it? > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:23 AM John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > I should also mention that I have built every beta from scratch

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta9 released

2020-03-29 Thread John H Palmieri
On OS X with a homebrew installation of Python 3.7.7 I get some failures, mostly to do with pari, including messages like this: PARI/GP ERROR: *** bug in PARI/GP (Segmentation Fault), please report. and this: fatal error: 'gmp.h' file not found #include "gmp.h" ^~~

[sage-support] Re: deprecation warning about "`\QQ`" and "\*"

2020-03-29 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 12:24:38 AM UTC-7, rana-aere wrote: > > Thank you for clear instructions. > I used the codes to compare how doctoring of the method _macaulay2_init_ > is displayed. > > sage-8.9 (command line and jupyter) > > ``` > Init docstring: x.__init__(...) initializes x; see

[sage-support] Re: deprecation warning about "`\QQ`" and "\*"

2020-03-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 at 7:07:53 AM UTC-7, rana-aere wrote: > > > > I am compiling binary-pkg and encountered a deprecation warning. > The warning appeared when I invoked sage from command line. > (Technically, it was after messages of patching.) > > The warning reads > > ``` >

[sage-devel] Re: Installing TOPCOM

2020-03-25 Thread John H Palmieri
Please use "sage -i topcom" (lowercase). "topcom" is the newer version of "TOPCOM", which is the old, outdated, package. That may not help, but it's worth a try. On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 9:50:01 AM UTC-7, Tyler L. Kelly wrote: > > Dear all, > > I was sent here in trying to install

Re: [sage-devel] Inherit Method but keep Documentation?

2020-03-18 Thread John H Palmieri
What about my_method = Mother.my_method my_method.__doc__ = "new docstring" Does that do what you want? On Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 9:22:31 PM UTC-7, David Roe wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 10:58 PM Michael Jung > wrote: > >> Damn it. Then I another question: Would it cause a

Re: [Simh] VMS hobbyist license

2020-03-17 Thread John H. Reinhardt
On 3/13/2020 11:29 AM, Arthur Krewat wrote: The domain decusserve.org doesn't exist? Typo on my part in the original.  It should be one "s"... <https://eisner.decuserve.org> for the web page.  ssh to eisner.decuserve.org for the login. -- John H. Reinhardt On 3/11/20

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-14 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 3/13/2020 10:30 PM, Tapley, Mark B. via cctalk wrote: On Mar 10, 2020, at 7:59 PM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] On 3/10/2020 1:17 PM, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: I really liked the idea of running VMS on simh (and learning some more skills), even if I had

Re: [Simh] HPE has started emailing the final hobbyist licenses

2020-03-13 Thread John H. Reinhardt
-- *From:* Simh on behalf of John H. Re

Re: [Simh] HPE has started emailing the final hobbyist licenses

2020-03-12 Thread John H. Reinhardt
was mistaken.  The next best thing though is OpenVMS AXP V6.1 and OpenVMS Alpha V6.2 (Yes, the nomenclature did change and they skipped from V1 to V6 for Alpha/AXP to match OpenVMS VAX). I seem to recall having seen an OpenVMS AXP V1.0 CD being on Ebay at some point but I never tried for

Re: [sage-devel] sagenb dependencies

2020-03-12 Thread John H Palmieri
twisted, too, I think. On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 4:25:21 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote: > > The flask packages definitely should be made optional. > > > On 12/03/2020, at 12:02 PM, Antonio Rojas > wrote: > > > > sagenb was made optional, but its dependencies (such as flask-* >

Re: [Simh] EXT : Message order

2020-03-12 Thread John H. Reinhardt
server’s problem. Email is not guaranteed delivery – that’s why some people try to include a delivery receipt or read receipt to see if an email made it to the destination. David *From:*Simh *On Behalf Of *John H. Reinhardt *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:39 PM *To:* simh@trailing

[Simh] Message order

2020-03-11 Thread John H. Reinhardt
, but quite often, they don't.  Is it my email service - Fastmail? Another example is Tony Nicholson's reply to Dave Porter about reminding how to get an OpenVMS Hobbyist license (Tony's wording looks remarkably familiar, BTW. ;). I have yet to receive Dave's post. -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-11 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 3/11/2020 12:10 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 11/03/2020 00:59, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: Nope. All you have to do is go to eisner.decuserve.org and register (follow my earlier instructions).  They don't care what country you are from. All are welcome.  Do it now

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-10 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
. They can't, they have no printers or ink to sell.  They already broke the company up into HP - printers, ink and PC's and HPE - Servers, etc (including OpenVMS until it was sold or licensed to VSI). -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-10 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
license(s) that will last until the end of 2021 at least. -- John H. Reinhardt

[sage-devel] glpk and the message "Long-step dual simplex will be used"

2020-03-10 Thread John H Palmieri
Ticket #24824 upgraded glpk to version 4.65, patching it so it doesn't print a warning message "Long-step dual simplex will be used". What should we do about system-wide installations of glpk? I recently installed it using homebrew, and the result was that Sage failed lots of tests, all

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-10 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
as the people who attend Makerfests aren't usually the ones that sign the contracts. -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-09 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 3/9/2020 12:20 PM, Eric Smith wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 4:32 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: I would think that those that already have legal VAX PAKs/licenses could still run them. It's just no *NEW* PAKs could be legally generated. The

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-08 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
st license so you may have to wait a bit. In the meantime you have an Eisner account which is an Alphaserver DS20 running OpenVMS V8.4 to play with. If you are new to VMS then "HELP" is your friend. You can find out just about anything you wanted to know starting with "HELP". Jo

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
will be out of the business completely. bill I would think that those that already have legal VAX PAKs/licenses could still run them. It's just no *NEW* PAKs could be legally generated. -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
Monday at least. The "standard prices" part doesn't' look encouraging. -- John H. Reinhardt

HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing

2020-03-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
e same. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Cheers, Wiz!! John H. Reinhardt *From:*owner-hec...@update.uu.se [mailto:owner-hec...@update.uu.se] *On Behalf Of *David Moylan *Sent:* Saturday, 7 March 2020 4:14 PM *To:* hec...@update.uu.se *Subject:* [HECnet] HPE OpenVMS Hobbyist license program is closing Hi all,

Re: [Simh] Bridge, tap and VDE on Bionic Beaver (Slightly OT)

2020-03-04 Thread John H. Reinhardt
. -- John H. Reinhardt ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.1.beta2 released

2020-01-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 12:23:34 AM UTC-8, Markus Wageringel wrote: > > > > Also, the directory `build/pkgs/sage_conf/src/` contains untracked > autogenerated files. This makes `configure` fail if one tries to checkout a > previous beta. > > I see this too. I don't understand why it

[sage-devel] Re: Unable to build sage after git trac config

2020-01-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 3:04:12 PM UTC-8, Vipul Gupta wrote: > > Hello, > I am using Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS with sage version 9.1 beta 2 > After using below command > git clone git://github.com/sagemath/sage.git > cd sage > git checkout develop > make > Okay up to here. Before doing the

[sage-devel] Re: Should Sage fiddle with .sage file permissions?

2020-01-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 9:59:04 AM UTC-8, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5, Marc Mezzarobba wrote: >> >> >> I just noticed that Sage unconditionally changes the permissions of the >> DOT_SAGE directory to rwx--- even after the user manually

[Bacula-users] Q: Bacula fails to update catalog reference

2020-01-22 Thread John H Nyhuis
age daemon Scalar-i40 at 127.0.0.1:9103 ... 3306 Issuing autochanger "slots" command. Device "AutoChanger-Scalar-i40" has 38 slots. Connecting to Storage daemon Scalar-i40 at 127.0.0.1:9103 ... 3306 Issuing autochanger "list" command. Catalog record for Volume "

Re: [sage-support] sage with python3, mpmath

2020-01-14 Thread John H Palmieri
/libintmath.py", > line 161 ? Just interesting :) > > вторник, 14 января 2020 г., 21:20:05 UTC+3 пользователь John H Palmieri > написал: >> >> Sorry, I meant Sage *9.1.beta0*. >> >> On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 10:18:41 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wro

Re: [sage-support] sage with python3, mpmath

2020-01-14 Thread John H Palmieri
Sorry, I meant Sage *9.1.beta0*. On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 10:18:41 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Just to confirm: everything works with Sage 9.0.beta1, built with Python > 2. Fails with Sage built with Python 3. > > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 5:55:51 A

Re: [sage-support] sage with python3, mpmath

2020-01-14 Thread John H Palmieri
Just to confirm: everything works with Sage 9.0.beta1, built with Python 2. Fails with Sage built with Python 3. On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 5:55:51 AM UTC-8, Александр Ватузов wrote: > > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29009#ticket > > вторник, 14 января 2020 г., 16:36:27 UTC+3

Re: Another old phart trying to clean out the house

2020-01-13 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
53 I bought from you last April.  Works great!  I wish I wasn't down in Fort Worth or else I'd be over looking and probably aggravating my wife (What?? More junk??).  Actually she's pretty understanding.  ;) -- John H. Reinhardt

[sage-devel] Re: Building 9.0 on macOS: test suite failure with cython-0.29.12.p0 and nose-1.3.7

2020-01-11 Thread John H Palmieri
It is safe to build without setting SAGE_CHECK. Also, some packages are known to fail their test suites — see https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/abysgIIVGZI/fF7efL9RAwAJ, for example. On Saturday, January 11, 2020 at 2:40:04 AM UTC-8, Szabolcs Horvát wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I

[sage-devel] Bug with Smith normal form for matrices over GF(4) on OS X

2020-01-08 Thread John H Palmieri
Dave Witte Morris pointed out the following bug (now trac 28970): M = random_matrix(GF(4), 70, 70) def test_matrix(iterations=50):for k in range(iterations): S,U,V = M.smith_form() print(k) if not S == U * M * V: raise ValueError On OS X, this will

[sage-devel] Re: drop python2 compatibility in 9.1 ?

2020-01-05 Thread John H Palmieri
Can someone with trac admin access and know-how add a 9.2 milestone, so people can develop for 9.2 if they want to focus on dropping Python 2 support? Meanwhile, 9.1 should include a deprecation warning when people use './configure --with-python=2'. On Sunday, January 5, 2020 at 1:06:21 PM

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.34.1-2 "locked" in search

2020-01-05 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
un, 2020-01-05 at 11:09 -0500, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > One of my PC's running Evoilution 3.34.1-2 is "locked" in search. Iwas > > trying to find a message on my secretary's PC and was tryingdifferent > > locations from the drop-down list next to the search bar.

[Evolution] Evolution 3.34.1-2 "locked" in search

2020-01-05 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
One of my PC's running Evoilution 3.34.1-2 is "locked" in search. I was trying to find a message on my secretary's PC and was trying different locations from the drop-down list next to the search bar. Evolution "locked up" with "Current Folder and Subfolders" in the drop-down list. On the top

[sage-support] Re: Problems Compiling 9.0

2020-01-03 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 11:54:04 AM UTC-8, finotti wrote: > > I'm trying to build version 9.0 from source under Linux (Debian > Unstable/Sid). The machine has Intel Core i7-8700 CPU and 48GB of RAM. > > Below is the end of the compilation: > > [snip] > > [twisted-16.3.0.p0] Finished

Re: [CentOS] Nasty Fail2Ban update for Centos 7

2019-12-31 Thread John H Nyhuis
and fixed it...) Good Luck! Thanks, John H. Nyhuis Desk: (206)-685-8334 jnyh...@uw.edu Box 359461, 15th floor, 106 On 12/30/2019 6:14 PM, Allan wrote: > Hi all... > > Recently a new Fail2Ban was available among some other updates for my > Centos 7 system, and I just updated all

Re: Your Vale Coaches order has been received!

2019-12-31 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
of the year. Happy New Year's Eve all!  (for those not over the timezone far enough to be in the New Year already...) Hopefully I'll boot my PDP-11/53 soon.  I just have to get up the nerve to test the Power supply. Now we're back on topic.  :D -- John H. Reinhardt PRRT #8909 C HS #11530 N-Trak

Re: Your Vale Coaches order has been received!

2019-12-31 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
sense! On 31/12/2019 12:09, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 12/31/2019 10:15 AM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: ? I know!!! 69£ for a sandwich lunch??? Talk about price gouging! On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:16 AM Mark Darvill via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Goo

Re: Your Vale Coaches order has been received!

2019-12-31 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
258 820871 mark.darv...@mac.com Thanks for using valecoaches.com! Vale Coaches Site built by Marnhull Computers Marnhull Computers m...@marnhullcomputers.com> -- John H. Reinhardt PRRT #8909 C HS #11530 N-Trak #7566

[sage-devel] Re: sage-system-python use in runtime

2019-12-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 9:57:25 PM UTC-8, Isuru Fernando wrote: > > I'm trying to build sage 9.0.rc1 for conda. For conda what I do is I run, > 1. Run configure > 2. cp src/bin/* to /bin > 3. cp src/ext/* to /share/sage/ext > 4. run `python setup.py install` in src > > This has worked

[Bacula-users] Getting around the watchdog timer in bacula 5.2.13-23.1.el7.x86_64

2019-12-30 Thread John H Nyhuis
). By default, the the watchdog thread will kill any Job that has run more than 6 days. The maximum watchdog timeout is independent of MaxRunTime and cannot be changed. -- Thanks, John H. Nyhuis Desk: (206)-685-8334 jnyh...@uw.edu Box 359461, 15th floor, 106

Re: [Simh] Some beginner questions about RSX11 and/or RSTS on simh...

2019-12-28 Thread John H. Reinhardt
in the RSX RTS as well.   Johnny The source in FORTRAN (IIRC)?  Is it on HECnet? I gotta get my connection set up now that I'm getting settled in the new house. I've seen binaries online various places but the source has eluded me. -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: [Bacula-users] Volume media failure, howto configure migration job?

2019-12-23 Thread John H Nyhuis
hmmm, this ends with `Termination:Migration -- no files to migrate` so something is still not right... Thanks, John H. Nyhuis Desk: (206)-685-8334 jnyh...@uw.edu Box 359461, 15th floor, 106 On 12/23/2019 12:07 PM, Heitor Faria wrote: > Hello John, > >> In writ

Re: [Bacula-users] Volume media failure, howto configure migration job?

2019-12-23 Thread John H Nyhuis
to reassign back into the old pool? I'm not trying to restore old versions of files to a server Thanks, John H. Nyhuis Desk: (206)-685-8334 jnyh...@uw.edu Box 359461, 15th floor, 106 On 12/23/2019 12:07 PM, Heitor Faria wrote: > Hello John, > >> In writing this

[Bacula-users] Volume media failure, howto configure migration job?

2019-12-23 Thread John H Nyhuis
volume 07L6 to a different volume in a way that will update the the bacula database. Any suggestions? Is there a better approach? I'd rather not loose the backups on tape 7. Is 'Type = Copy' a better way to solve this problem? Thanks, John H. Nyhuis Desk: (206)-685-8334 jnyh...@uw.e

[Bacula-users] Q: bacula running processes parallel?

2019-12-10 Thread John H Nyhuis
ector { Name = bacula-dir Password = Removed to protect the guilty } Director { Name = prod-backup-mon Password = Removed to protect the guilty Monitor = yes } Does anyone have ideas for how I could use this hardware more efficiently? -- Thanks, John H. Nyhuis Desk: (206)-6

[Discover] [Bug 414145] Updates page: layout broken; size info covered by list of updates, which is not scrollable

2019-12-04 Thread John H
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414145 --- Comment #10 from John H --- I just want to thank you guys, my plasma desktop on Arch was updated to version 5.17.4 on Tuesday. I'm happy to say the issue I reported has been fixed. I couldn't tell on Tuesday because the issue involved the update

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.0.beta8 released

2019-12-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 9:15:49 AM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 3:12:12 AM UTC-8, E. Madison Bray wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 6:50 AM John H Palmieri >> wrote: >> > >> > Broken with a Pytho

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.0.beta8 released

2019-12-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 3:12:12 AM UTC-8, E. Madison Bray wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 6:50 AM John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > Broken with a Python 2 build. Do we care? > > > > In particular, SageNB is not built with Python 2, but the docteste

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.0.beta8 released

2019-12-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Broken with a Python 2 build. Do we care? In particular, SageNB is not built with Python 2, but the doctester thinks it should be: ./sage -t -p --all --long --logfile=logs/ptestlong.log Running doctests with ID 2019-12-01-19-23-00-d57c8cb5. Git branch: develop Using

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.0.beta7 released

2019-11-27 Thread John H Palmieri
It's okay with Python 3, but I'm getting a failure on OS X when built with Python 2: sage -t --long --warn-long 68.2 src/sage/libs/pynac/pynac.pyx ** File "src/sage/libs/pynac/pynac.pyx", line 295, in

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Significant slowdown of basic arithmetic

2019-11-23 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 12:38:35 PM UTC-8, vdelecroix wrote: > > Le 23/11/2019 à 11:34, John H Palmieri a écrit : > > By the way, Integer(1r) is also faster with Python 2 than with Python 3. > > By how much? Does it explain the 25% slowdown of the original post?

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Significant slowdown of basic arithmetic

2019-11-23 Thread John H Palmieri
It's not actually Sage 8.9 vs. 9.0, it is? Rather it's Python 2 vs. Python 3. On my computer, I see the same timings with Python 3 builds of 8.9 and 9.0.beta6, but things look faster with Python 2 builds of 8.9 and 9.0.beta6. By the way, Integer(1r) is also faster with Python 2 than with Python

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.0.beta6 released

2019-11-21 Thread John H Palmieri
I have what looks like a very similar setup: `pkg-config --libs libpng` returns the same thing, I have symlinks for those two files, but matplotlib finds libpng just fine. Did you do 'make distclean' after reinstalling libpng and pkg-config? What does "brew list" say? On Thursday, November

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.0.beta6 released

2019-11-19 Thread John H Palmieri
The problems with incremental building and Python 2 vs. Python 3 are being tracked at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/28742 On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 6:57:36 AM UTC-8, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 1:59 PM E. Madison Bray > wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at

[Discover] [Bug 414145] Updates page: layout broken; size info covered by list of updates, which is not scrollable

2019-11-17 Thread John H
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414145 --- Comment #4 from John H --- Created attachment 123969 --> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=123969=edit Screenshot for Bug 414145 As requested, a screenshot for the bug. I hope a picture says a thousand words! -- You are receiv

[Discover] [Bug 414145] New: Important elements of updates screen covered by list of updates

2019-11-14 Thread John H
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=414145 Bug ID: 414145 Summary: Important elements of updates screen covered by list of updates Product: Discover Version: 5.17.3 Platform: Archlinux Packages OS: Linux

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