Re: Please support/enable https by default in the Apache web sever.
On Sat, 30 Sep, 2023, 7:06 pm Noel Butler, wrote: > On 30/09/2023 22:28, General Email wrote: > > > > On Sat, 30 Sep, 2023, 5:34 pm Will Fatherley, > wrote: > > > > Please support/enable https by default in the Apache web server. > > > HTTPS is supported already by default. I like the idea of enabling by > default, but as it stands now probably should not be done as the generation > of keying material is required; the certification of keying material, while > capable of being automated, may become overburdened or more easily abused; > and other such complications related to authentication. > > > In XAMPP (https://www.apachefriends.org/download.html) https can be > enabled easily (change of only couple of lines is required). > > XAMPP has apache http web server. > > It looks like they have a default SSL certificate in their distribution. > > Fitefox and other browsers complain something like "the certificate is not > trusted" but they also give an option of taking the risk and going ahead. > When you go ahead, you can access your site using https. > > This is good when a developer is developing a website on his local > computer. > > Later, when going for hosting the website, the hosting providers do > everything for you for supporting https. > > So, if whatever XAMPP has done in their distribution of apache http > server, if the same can be done in official apache http server then this > will be of great help during website development and testing. > > Regards, > GE > > > > > Please re-read Stefan's reply. > > It is not up to the project to dictate to administrators, there are > examples that are easy implementable, use them. The project is not to know > where you want your docroot, if you want CGI or what directories require > special permissions or options are they, configuring your host to how you > want it is your job. > > How hard is it really to uncomment one hash sign and edit a file to set > correct DocumentRoot and hostnames and where the keys are... (thats > rhetorical by the way not actually a question) > > And as for those "webhosts" doing it automatically, all we do is use a > vhost template that we created and is used when adding each host, > customised by perl or php or whatever prog language the webhost uses in > their backend. > I actually didn't understand your answer. What I said was to enable https by default and XAMPP have made it quite easy. If it can't be enabled by default then at least it should be as simple as adding one line or uncommenting one line: Listen 443. Currently, enabling https in apache http server is not easy and takes multiple steps. XAMPP doesn't require generation of SSL certificate by the user but its certificate can't be used in production and this is ok because its certificate can be used during development. I am just suggesting that why can't official apache http server do the same as XAMPP. The main problem is that it is not recommended to use XAMPP in production so we need official apache http server in production. By the way, I don't understand how the default certificate can be abused. Anyways, may be I didn't understand well enough but please have a look as to how XAMPP is doing it and whether their certificates, etc. can also be abused or not. Regards, GE
Re: Please support/enable https by default in the Apache web sever.
On Sat, 30 Sep, 2023, 5:34 pm Will Fatherley, wrote: > > Please support/enable https by default in the Apache web server. >> > > HTTPS is supported already by default. I like the idea of enabling by > default, but as it stands now probably should not be done as the generation > of keying material is required; the certification of keying material, while > capable of being automated, may become overburdened or more easily abused; > and other such complications related to authentication. > In XAMPP (https://www.apachefriends.org/download.html) https can be enabled easily (change of only couple of lines is required). XAMPP has apache http web server. It looks like they have a default SSL certificate in their distribution. Fitefox and other browsers complain something like "the certificate is not trusted" but they also give an option of taking the risk and going ahead. When you go ahead, you can access your site using https. This is good when a developer is developing a website on his local computer. Later, when going for hosting the website, the hosting providers do everything for you for supporting https. So, if whatever XAMPP has done in their distribution of apache http server, if the same can be done in official apache http server then this will be of great help during website development and testing. Regards, GE
Please support/enable https by default in the Apache web sever.
Hi, Everyone is moving to "https" these days. Almost no one is using "http" these days. Please support/enable https by default in the Apache web server. Enabling https support manually is a lengthy (and probably a little bit difficult) process. Regards, GE
working now was Re: RHVoice under Fedora question
Hi, so I manually created .conf file in /etc/ld.so.config.d with /usr/local/lib content and after running sudo ldconfig, RHVoice is working now. Now I am looking for scons parameter, which allows me to install RHVoice not to /usr/local/lib, but to /usr/lib, but it's a detail for now. Pavel Dne 27.09.2023 v 16:08 Linux for blind general discussion napsal(a): Hi, thanks a lot. Now, I can successfuly do scons command. But the sudo scons install command installs RHVoice to /local or somewhere including /local and Ia am unable to get it working in Speech Dispatcher. So my question is, where and what change to get correct path for installation from source? I think this is Fedora specific, because Ubuntu, Debian and Arch Linux work as expected. Thanks a lot, Pavel Dne 26. 09. 23 v 23:39 Linux for blind general discussion napsal(a): Hi! On 9/24/23 21:29, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi, I want to install RHVoice from source under Fedora, but I have a problem identifiing names of the correct dependencies. Ubuntu says: apt-get install gcc g++ pkg-config scons libpulse-dev libspeechd-dev So gcc and g++ are ok, but I can not find the correct package names for other dependencies. Please go to the definitive source instead. The directions on RHVoice project github page say you would need SCons installed on your system in order to build the binary. You would also need audio libraries and their respective development packages plus I guess pkg-conf and the respective development package. First we need to check and locate package groups and install them. localhost$ sudo dnf group list For me this shows three likely candidates which are: 'RPM Development Tools', 'Development Tools' and perhaps 'Fedora Packager'. We'll install them by running localhost$ sudo dnf group install 'RPM Development Tools' 'Development Tools' 'Fedora Packager' Secondly we need source code, dependent libraries and their respective development packages. We need to check the official documentation on https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Compiling-on-Linux.md By reading the documentation we find out that we need a tool called scons. My wild guess is that it is readily available on one of the preconfigured repositories. Let's find out by running sudo dnf search scons Which for me shows a candidate called python3-scons. Then we'd like to check this indeed is the tool we want. We can compare information on scons.org web site with information on the install candidate package. Package information can be read running sudo dnf info python3-scons Use the same commands but use 'pulseaudio' and 'speech-dispatcher' as the last argument to dnf search (in place of scons). This way we find the needed development packages. Since these are not package groups but single packages this time we use 'dnf install' instead of 'dnf group' install. localhost$ sudo dnf install python3-scons pulseaudio-libs-devel speech-dispatcher-devel Can someone help please? Sorry for my earlier ignorance. I've been busy on other fronts lately. I didn't do the actual installation of the packages mentioned in this email nor did I try compiling RHVoice. That's left for an excercise to you. Later on if you would like to start packaging software for Fedora you'd need to get used to rpm packaging and spec files. There is pretty good documentation available for that. Hope this helps enough to get started compiling stuff on your box. Regards, Birdie ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: RHVoice under Fedora question
does anyone with snaps enabled know if rh-voice is available from snaps? If so that might clear up lots of questions and problems. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Wed, 27 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Hi, > > thanks a lot. Now, I can successfuly do scons command. But the sudo scons > install command installs RHVoice to /local or somewhere including /local and > Ia am unable to get it working in Speech Dispatcher. So my question is, where > and what change to get correct path for installation from source? I think this > is Fedora specific, because Ubuntu, Debian and Arch Linux work as expected. > > Thanks a lot, > > Pavel > > > > Dne 26. 09. 23 v 23:39 Linux for blind general discussion napsal(a): > > Hi! > > > > On 9/24/23 21:29, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I want to install RHVoice from source under Fedora, but I have a problem > >> identifiing names of the correct dependencies. Ubuntu says: > >> > >> apt-get install gcc g++ pkg-config scons libpulse-dev libspeechd-dev > >> > >> So gcc and g++ are ok, but I can not find the correct package names for > >> other dependencies. > >> > > > > Please go to the definitive source instead. The directions on RHVoice > > project github page say you would need SCons installed on your system in > > order to build the binary. You would also need audio libraries and their > > respective development packages plus I guess pkg-conf and the respective > > development package. > > > > First we need to check and locate package groups and install them. > > > > > > localhost$ sudo dnf group list > > > > > > For me this shows three likely candidates which are: 'RPM Development > > Tools', 'Development Tools' and perhaps 'Fedora Packager'. > > > > We'll install them by running > > > > > > localhost$ sudo dnf group install 'RPM Development Tools' 'Development > > Tools' 'Fedora Packager' > > > > > > Secondly we need source code, dependent libraries and their respective > > development packages. > > We need to check the official documentation on > > https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Compiling-on-Linux.md > > By reading the documentation we find out that we need a tool called scons. > > My wild guess is that it is readily available on one of the preconfigured > > repositories. Let's find out by running > > > > > > sudo dnf search scons > > > > > > Which for me shows a candidate called python3-scons. Then we'd like to check > > this indeed is the tool we want. We can compare information on scons.org web > > site with information on the install candidate package. > > > > Package information can be read running > > > > sudo dnf info python3-scons > > > > > > Use the same commands but use 'pulseaudio' and 'speech-dispatcher' as the > > last argument to dnf search (in place of scons). This way we find the needed > > development packages. > > > > Since these are not package groups but single packages this time we use 'dnf > > install' instead of 'dnf group' install. > > > > > > localhost$ sudo dnf install python3-scons pulseaudio-libs-devel > > speech-dispatcher-devel > > > > > >> Can someone help please? > > > > Sorry for my earlier ignorance. I've been busy on other fronts lately. I > > didn't do the actual installation of the packages mentioned in this email > > nor did I try compiling RHVoice. That's left for an excercise to you. Later > > on if you would like to start packaging software for Fedora you'd need to > > get used to rpm packaging and spec files. There is pretty good documentation > > available for that. > > > > Hope this helps enough to get started compiling stuff on your box. > > > > Regards, > > Birdie > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: RHVoice under Fedora question
Hi, thanks a lot. Now, I can successfuly do scons command. But the sudo scons install command installs RHVoice to /local or somewhere including /local and Ia am unable to get it working in Speech Dispatcher. So my question is, where and what change to get correct path for installation from source? I think this is Fedora specific, because Ubuntu, Debian and Arch Linux work as expected. Thanks a lot, Pavel Dne 26. 09. 23 v 23:39 Linux for blind general discussion napsal(a): Hi! On 9/24/23 21:29, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi, I want to install RHVoice from source under Fedora, but I have a problem identifiing names of the correct dependencies. Ubuntu says: apt-get install gcc g++ pkg-config scons libpulse-dev libspeechd-dev So gcc and g++ are ok, but I can not find the correct package names for other dependencies. Please go to the definitive source instead. The directions on RHVoice project github page say you would need SCons installed on your system in order to build the binary. You would also need audio libraries and their respective development packages plus I guess pkg-conf and the respective development package. First we need to check and locate package groups and install them. localhost$ sudo dnf group list For me this shows three likely candidates which are: 'RPM Development Tools', 'Development Tools' and perhaps 'Fedora Packager'. We'll install them by running localhost$ sudo dnf group install 'RPM Development Tools' 'Development Tools' 'Fedora Packager' Secondly we need source code, dependent libraries and their respective development packages. We need to check the official documentation on https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Compiling-on-Linux.md By reading the documentation we find out that we need a tool called scons. My wild guess is that it is readily available on one of the preconfigured repositories. Let's find out by running sudo dnf search scons Which for me shows a candidate called python3-scons. Then we'd like to check this indeed is the tool we want. We can compare information on scons.org web site with information on the install candidate package. Package information can be read running sudo dnf info python3-scons Use the same commands but use 'pulseaudio' and 'speech-dispatcher' as the last argument to dnf search (in place of scons). This way we find the needed development packages. Since these are not package groups but single packages this time we use 'dnf install' instead of 'dnf group' install. localhost$ sudo dnf install python3-scons pulseaudio-libs-devel speech-dispatcher-devel Can someone help please? Sorry for my earlier ignorance. I've been busy on other fronts lately. I didn't do the actual installation of the packages mentioned in this email nor did I try compiling RHVoice. That's left for an excercise to you. Later on if you would like to start packaging software for Fedora you'd need to get used to rpm packaging and spec files. There is pretty good documentation available for that. Hope this helps enough to get started compiling stuff on your box. Regards, Birdie ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: RHVoice under Fedora question
Hi! On 9/24/23 21:29, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi, I want to install RHVoice from source under Fedora, but I have a problem identifiing names of the correct dependencies. Ubuntu says: apt-get install gcc g++ pkg-config scons libpulse-dev libspeechd-dev So gcc and g++ are ok, but I can not find the correct package names for other dependencies. Please go to the definitive source instead. The directions on RHVoice project github page say you would need SCons installed on your system in order to build the binary. You would also need audio libraries and their respective development packages plus I guess pkg-conf and the respective development package. First we need to check and locate package groups and install them. localhost$ sudo dnf group list For me this shows three likely candidates which are: 'RPM Development Tools', 'Development Tools' and perhaps 'Fedora Packager'. We'll install them by running localhost$ sudo dnf group install 'RPM Development Tools' 'Development Tools' 'Fedora Packager' Secondly we need source code, dependent libraries and their respective development packages. We need to check the official documentation on https://github.com/RHVoice/RHVoice/blob/master/doc/en/Compiling-on-Linux.md By reading the documentation we find out that we need a tool called scons. My wild guess is that it is readily available on one of the preconfigured repositories. Let's find out by running sudo dnf search scons Which for me shows a candidate called python3-scons. Then we'd like to check this indeed is the tool we want. We can compare information on scons.org web site with information on the install candidate package. Package information can be read running sudo dnf info python3-scons Use the same commands but use 'pulseaudio' and 'speech-dispatcher' as the last argument to dnf search (in place of scons). This way we find the needed development packages. Since these are not package groups but single packages this time we use 'dnf install' instead of 'dnf group' install. localhost$ sudo dnf install python3-scons pulseaudio-libs-devel speech-dispatcher-devel Can someone help please? Sorry for my earlier ignorance. I've been busy on other fronts lately. I didn't do the actual installation of the packages mentioned in this email nor did I try compiling RHVoice. That's left for an excercise to you. Later on if you would like to start packaging software for Fedora you'd need to get used to rpm packaging and spec files. There is pretty good documentation available for that. Hope this helps enough to get started compiling stuff on your box. Regards, Birdie ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
Well Martin: certainly while there are English web-sites which have news from this region, I would rather translate Armenian streams to English audio-and save as an mp3 or dot aac, the same way I would save any audio newscast. Lucky, in many cases, I can now save text stories minus toolbars with rdrview as a LYNX external. While I don't so much mind listening with my DecTalk, I would rather have a more natural voice reading an English translation. Thanks so much in advance Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Don't press enter. Wait for the three tones then wait for speech to > happen. I did that all be it accidentally the first time. Nothing at all but the radio showed enough activity to indicate that it had gone on and was doing other stuff, just not telling me what it was doing. That was a good suggestion, however. Martin > > > -- Jude ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
I've been loosely following this discussion and if there ever was an example of how wonderful unix-like operating systems are, a problem like this accentuates why unix-like systems are so good. Someone mentioned software that translates spoken audio in to English text. Now, all you have to do is feed that text in to a system with a screen reader and you've got exactly a system for delivering English, Spanish or whatever you want with whatever language you are looking for as the input. Of course, the voice will just be the screen reader or whatever text-to-speech engine you re using but still, with the powerful standard output concept of unix, one doesn't need to do a lot of unusual programming requiring linguistic knowledge at all to get where you are trying to go. The problem, of course, will be reduced to a mechanical issue of how do I get the text output from this program sent through standard output to the input of the speech engine? Notice, I've been saying unix-like and that's for a reason. There is Unix with a capital U which is actually a trademark of AT who developed Unix in 1968 or 1969. They wanted to come up with a way to make 1 main-frame computer serve all the workers in a project at what seems to be the same time but, in reality, is a very small difference in time for each client. So, everybody is on a really fast-spinning merry-go-round in which each horse is in the spot light for a fraction of a second and appears to have the computer to themselves. Everything they need is theirs and their's alone for a split second. Then, time is up for them and the computer saves everything from that rider and the next horse comes in to view and so on. If things are good, nobody gets to see what their neighbors are doing unless invited but it's all so fast that nobody notices the slight delay. Linux is an operating system that is like AT's Unix in concept plus a zillion other versions of Linux are the same. DEC in the 1980's had Ultrix and IBM came along with their version of a unix-like OS so probably very few of us are using Unix with a capital U but we all have that Unix to thank for a great idea.. O well, I should stop blathering now but the translation idea is one of the greatest examples I've seen in a long time of what unix-like OS's are really good at. Martin who started learning unix in 1989 and loved it. Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Hi Karen: Honestly, I had not considered which voice or how that would > work. I did write Jeremy directly-and-told him that the program he > suggested is on a site which requires javascript, so I mostly get a blank > page. > > Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Hi, The notes played by GRUB at boot time use the internal buzzer, not the sound card, that's why you could hear these notes. To understand the issue with your hardware it would help to use alsa-info.sh like this (as root to using sudo): alsa-info.sh --no-upload --output alsa-info.txt You can always get the last version of alsa-info.sh like this: wget http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh Feel free to send me the file alsa-info.sh directly: didier at slint dot fr Cheers, Didier Le 26/09/2023 à 15:48, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > I am sorry, but I have bad news. I downloaded the image, sent it > to a 32-GB usb card and tried it. The system immediately found > the EFI partition and played the 3 notes in ascending order > within 5 or 10 seconds after powering on. I pressed Enter and > waited and waited and waited, left the room for a few minutes, > came back, waited some more but that was the last sound. > > Later, it occurred to me that I might get it to talk if > there was a usb sound card since those devices are in common use > everywhere. > > I now had this lap top with a 4-port extender containing > a full-size keyboard and the 128-GB thumb drive that was the > target of the Linux installation so why not also plug in a usb sound > card. > > I did and slint found that card. This is a very good way > to set this part of the installation since the person doing the > install must respond. > > I did make several later tries and confirmed that this > lap top's native sound interface is like a lot of native sound > interfaces in that it is too proprietary for it's own good. > > One of my favorite items when doing this sort of thing is a > portable AM radio to more or less get an electroencephalogram of > whether the computer seems to still be alive. One tunes to a > blank spot near the low end of the AM band if there is no radio > station there and listens to the static that the circuitry in the > computer makes as it computes. > > If something is wrong and the computer locks up, the > crackle, pop, beep and squeak abruptly stop and there is nothing > but the hiss of the radio. > > The computer, in this case, doesn't lock up but slint > never sees a viable native sound interface to probe. I hear lots > of zips, pops squeaks and beeps of all kinds indicating that the > computer is still alive and well but not talking. Adding the usb > sound card gives slint something it can recognize as a sound > interface. It did start voicing the screen just like it should > but it should have found the native interface automatically. > > I have another Debian 11 distribution that uses the same > concept of sending an English message to every sound card asking > one to press enter if this is the correct card and it talks all > the time through the installation process. > > For now, I am using that installer since it is the same > debian version I wanted anyway which is bullseye or debian 11. > > That install image does find the HP lap top's native > sound interface. When the installation is complete, it has > produced some unpleasant surprises on other systems I have used > it on if their native sound cards were particularly complex. One > system, for instance, talked all the way through the installation > but wouldn't reliably talk after booting to the installed system. > Simply unplugging the speaker or plugging in a set of headphones > would kill the audio. It turned out to think that hdmi was > supposed to be the correct output. > > If this helps any, this lap top appears to have no > trouble sending the musical notes at the boot time. The oldest > PC's had a system for making noises which you are probably very > familiar with which used a timer-counter integrated circuit that > was fed from a roughly 1-MHZ clock. The 16-bit counter in the > chip is fed with some constant depending upon what note or pitch > one needs. There is also a gate which connects pure DC to the > speaker or nothing if we are on the low half of the cycle. Tones > are produced by stuffing this constant in to the counter and the > counter counts down to 0 and then restarts after sending a pulse > to the speaker. > > You can get an amazing number of noises out of such a > circuit from Morse Code to at least video-game quality music. > > I am guessing this lap top has some modern version of > that noise-maker timer-counter-switch in order for the music to > come through but obviously, we need to find the built-in sound > card for speech to work. > > I am certainly not complaining about slint. As one who > likes to tinker with computers, PIC microcontrollers and ra
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I bought a crystal usb sound card from thinkpenguin.com I can plug into a laptop like that and maybe have the laptop come up talking. I like amixer set Master 100% unmute && speaker-test to sometimes fix sound card problems like these. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > On 26/9/23 09:48, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > I did make several later tries and confirmed that this > > lap top's native sound interface is like a lot of native sound > > interfaces in that it is too proprietary for it's own good. > > A few suggestions: > > 1. Try a very recent kernel, just in case compatibility has improved. > > 2. You may need to play with ALSA settings (e.g., amixer) to get the audio > device working. > > If you can start sshd, you should be able to log in from another system to > work on it. > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
On 26/9/23 09:48, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I did make several later tries and confirmed that this lap top's native sound interface is like a lot of native sound interfaces in that it is too proprietary for it's own good. A few suggestions: 1. Try a very recent kernel, just in case compatibility has improved. 2. You may need to play with ALSA settings (e.g., amixer) to get the audio device working. If you can start sshd, you should be able to log in from another system to work on it. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Don't press enter. Wait for the three tones then wait for speech to happen. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Tue, 26 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I am sorry, but I have bad news. I downloaded the image, sent it > to a 32-GB usb card and tried it. The system immediately found > the EFI partition and played the 3 notes in ascending order > within 5 or 10 seconds after powering on. I pressed Enter and > waited and waited and waited, left the room for a few minutes, > came back, waited some more but that was the last sound. > > Later, it occurred to me that I might get it to talk if > there was a usb sound card since those devices are in common use > everywhere. > > I now had this lap top with a 4-port extender containing > a full-size keyboard and the 128-GB thumb drive that was the > target of the Linux installation so why not also plug in a usb sound > card. > > I did and slint found that card. This is a very good way > to set this part of the installation since the person doing the > install must respond. > > I did make several later tries and confirmed that this > lap top's native sound interface is like a lot of native sound > interfaces in that it is too proprietary for it's own good. > > One of my favorite items when doing this sort of thing is a > portable AM radio to more or less get an electroencephalogram of > whether the computer seems to still be alive. One tunes to a > blank spot near the low end of the AM band if there is no radio > station there and listens to the static that the circuitry in the > computer makes as it computes. > > If something is wrong and the computer locks up, the > crackle, pop, beep and squeak abruptly stop and there is nothing > but the hiss of the radio. > > The computer, in this case, doesn't lock up but slint > never sees a viable native sound interface to probe. I hear lots > of zips, pops squeaks and beeps of all kinds indicating that the > computer is still alive and well but not talking. Adding the usb > sound card gives slint something it can recognize as a sound > interface. It did start voicing the screen just like it should > but it should have found the native interface automatically. > > I have another Debian 11 distribution that uses the same > concept of sending an English message to every sound card asking > one to press enter if this is the correct card and it talks all > the time through the installation process. > > For now, I am using that installer since it is the same > debian version I wanted anyway which is bullseye or debian 11. > > That install image does find the HP lap top's native > sound interface. When the installation is complete, it has > produced some unpleasant surprises on other systems I have used > it on if their native sound cards were particularly complex. One > system, for instance, talked all the way through the installation > but wouldn't reliably talk after booting to the installed system. > Simply unplugging the speaker or plugging in a set of headphones > would kill the audio. It turned out to think that hdmi was > supposed to be the correct output. > > If this helps any, this lap top appears to have no > trouble sending the musical notes at the boot time. The oldest > PC's had a system for making noises which you are probably very > familiar with which used a timer-counter integrated circuit that > was fed from a roughly 1-MHZ clock. The 16-bit counter in the > chip is fed with some constant depending upon what note or pitch > one needs. There is also a gate which connects pure DC to the > speaker or nothing if we are on the low half of the cycle. Tones > are produced by stuffing this constant in to the counter and the > counter counts down to 0 and then restarts after sending a pulse > to the speaker. > > You can get an amazing number of noises out of such a > circuit from Morse Code to at least video-game quality music. > > I am guessing this lap top has some modern version of > that noise-maker timer-counter-switch in order for the music to > come through but obviously, we need to find the built-in sound > card for speech to work. > > I am certainly not complaining about slint. As one who > likes to tinker with computers, PIC microcontrollers and radios, > I know how difficult it is to make just about anything work over > the broad range of situations that public users produce so, if > there is any information I can provide to help, I am glad to do > so. > > Linux for blind general discus
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I am sorry, but I have bad news. I downloaded the image, sent it to a 32-GB usb card and tried it. The system immediately found the EFI partition and played the 3 notes in ascending order within 5 or 10 seconds after powering on. I pressed Enter and waited and waited and waited, left the room for a few minutes, came back, waited some more but that was the last sound. Later, it occurred to me that I might get it to talk if there was a usb sound card since those devices are in common use everywhere. I now had this lap top with a 4-port extender containing a full-size keyboard and the 128-GB thumb drive that was the target of the Linux installation so why not also plug in a usb sound card. I did and slint found that card. This is a very good way to set this part of the installation since the person doing the install must respond. I did make several later tries and confirmed that this lap top's native sound interface is like a lot of native sound interfaces in that it is too proprietary for it's own good. One of my favorite items when doing this sort of thing is a portable AM radio to more or less get an electroencephalogram of whether the computer seems to still be alive. One tunes to a blank spot near the low end of the AM band if there is no radio station there and listens to the static that the circuitry in the computer makes as it computes. If something is wrong and the computer locks up, the crackle, pop, beep and squeak abruptly stop and there is nothing but the hiss of the radio. The computer, in this case, doesn't lock up but slint never sees a viable native sound interface to probe. I hear lots of zips, pops squeaks and beeps of all kinds indicating that the computer is still alive and well but not talking. Adding the usb sound card gives slint something it can recognize as a sound interface. It did start voicing the screen just like it should but it should have found the native interface automatically. I have another Debian 11 distribution that uses the same concept of sending an English message to every sound card asking one to press enter if this is the correct card and it talks all the time through the installation process. For now, I am using that installer since it is the same debian version I wanted anyway which is bullseye or debian 11. That install image does find the HP lap top's native sound interface. When the installation is complete, it has produced some unpleasant surprises on other systems I have used it on if their native sound cards were particularly complex. One system, for instance, talked all the way through the installation but wouldn't reliably talk after booting to the installed system. Simply unplugging the speaker or plugging in a set of headphones would kill the audio. It turned out to think that hdmi was supposed to be the correct output. If this helps any, this lap top appears to have no trouble sending the musical notes at the boot time. The oldest PC's had a system for making noises which you are probably very familiar with which used a timer-counter integrated circuit that was fed from a roughly 1-MHZ clock. The 16-bit counter in the chip is fed with some constant depending upon what note or pitch one needs. There is also a gate which connects pure DC to the speaker or nothing if we are on the low half of the cycle. Tones are produced by stuffing this constant in to the counter and the counter counts down to 0 and then restarts after sending a pulse to the speaker. You can get an amazing number of noises out of such a circuit from Morse Code to at least video-game quality music. I am guessing this lap top has some modern version of that noise-maker timer-counter-switch in order for the music to come through but obviously, we need to find the built-in sound card for speech to work. I am certainly not complaining about slint. As one who likes to tinker with computers, PIC microcontrollers and radios, I know how difficult it is to make just about anything work over the broad range of situations that public users produce so, if there is any information I can provide to help, I am glad to do so. Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Hi Martin, > > sorry for the mistake in the Handbook. Of course I should have written: > > wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso > wget > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso.sha256 > > then: > sha256sum -c slint64-15.0-5.iso.sha256 > > I will fix that and/or make a link like slint64-15.0-latest.iso > > Cheers, > Didier ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
sourceforge-net only stores an old 32-bit version. Didier Le 25/09/2023 à 16:29, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > That's how that's done on sourceforge.net. The webmaster would have to do > that, and now sourceforge.net is out of date on latest version for some > reason. > > > -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that > order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. > > On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> That download is happening now. It's the same url except that >> the version number now is 15.5 which is fine and explains what is >> happening. What I copied from the handbook is 15.0. I wish all >> problems were this easy to figure out. A suggestion might be to >> make the url refer to something like latest_version and that designation >> would always describe whatever version was most current. >> >> Martin >> Linux for blind general discussion writes: >>> Have you tried: >>> https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Hi Martin, sorry for the mistake in the HandBook. Of course I should have written: wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso.sha256 then: sha256sum -c slint64-15.0-5.iso.sha256 I will fix that and/or make a link like slint64-15.0-latest.iso Cheers, Didier Le 25/09/2023 à 14:55, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > I am not sure what is wrong but everything looks normal in the > image-getting phase. I lifted this right out of the handbook: > > wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.iso > wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.iso.sha256 > > The results are as follows: > > --2023-09-25 07:18:15-- > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint6 > 4-15.iso > Resolving slackware.uk (slackware.uk)... 216.119.155.61, > 2a02:2498:e004:2a::a861 > Connecting to slackware.uk (slackware.uk)|216.119.155.61|:443... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found > 2023-09-25 07:18:16 ERROR 404: Not Found. > > --2023-09-25 07:18:16-- > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint6 > 4-15.iso.sha256 > Resolving slackware.uk (slackware.uk)... 216.119.155.61, > 2a02:2498:e004:2a::a861 > Connecting to slackware.uk (slackware.uk)|216.119.155.61|:443... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found > 2023-09-25 07:18:17 ERROR 404: Not Found. > > In the past, I have occasionally had urls fail and it was > my fault because I had written some perl code to make reading > email messages and the like read more smoothly by removing some > 8-bit charactors. This did, in fact clean things up but it's > like fire, a wonderful servant but a terrible master. It made > things look fine but sometimes altered punctuation marks and > special symbols so that they were either missing or mangled and > so I thought I had gotten rid of that helper code I had written > for the output handler so I don't know if that bug has bitten > again or what. > urls are where this happens most often. > > I put a textual screen shot of how the wget went so > whatever happened, it is sneaky. > > Anyway, thank you for your help. I am sure that this > should get working soon as I believe that system is probably okay > except for the corrupted Windows drive and I may have to find a > usb instance of Windows 11 for that issue but that's for another > list about the care and feeding of Windows 11. For here and now, > the only problem is that the wget is coming up with 404's all > round. > > Martin > > Linux for blind general discussion writes: >> Hi Martin, >> >> to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you >> requested: >> https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint >> but it was for a previous Slint version. >> >> You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick >> (or a SD >> card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: >> https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint >> >> Cheers, >> Didier > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
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Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
That's how that's done on sourceforge.net. The webmaster would have to do that, and now sourceforge.net is out of date on latest version for some reason. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > That download is happening now. It's the same url except that > the version number now is 15.5 which is fine and explains what is > happening. What I copied from the handbook is 15.0. I wish all > problems were this easy to figure out. A suggestion might be to > make the url refer to something like latest_version and that designation > would always describe whatever version was most current. > > Martin > Linux for blind general discussion writes: > > Have you tried: > > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
That download is happening now. It's the same url except that the version number now is 15.5 which is fine and explains what is happening. What I copied from the handbook is 15.0. I wish all problems were this easy to figure out. A suggestion might be to make the url refer to something like latest_version and that designation would always describe whatever version was most current. Martin Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Have you tried: > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Have you tried: https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.0-5.iso -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Mon, 25 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I appreciate all this information because I got in a bit of a > hurry and ended up at the wrong site and the web monster showed > me a 3-GB image for slint which I downloaded. The download went > fine and the image flowed like good wine on to a 4-GB usb stick. > > slint-14.2.iso?viasf=1 > > Whatever this is, it's not a bootable image but probably all the > sources which is a nice thing to have but won't do the job at > hand right now. I should mount it and see what's there but it > produced a thumb drive with 1 single partition of type hidden > according to fdisk -l /dev/sdx. > > This whole project is going fairly nicely in that my wife helped > me turn off secureboot and change the boot order to usb first > then internal drive and, if the internal drive wasn't sick, I'd > be up and running. > > Another debian-11 distro on a different thumb drive jups > right in to the installation routine if you type s at the beeps > and the system seems to just love it. > > Since the keyboard is a laptop keyboard, getting a > secondary tty is a bit tricky. I had good beginners' luck after > getting to the partitioner but I haven't been able to duplicate > that more than once. I held alt+F1, I think and got the second > console and was able to look around in /dev. The mentally-ill > internal drive, however, was nowhere to be found and the only > /dev/sdx listing was my boot drive for Linux. > > I killed everything and restarted but couldn't get the > second console or any of the others to show but the partitioner, > this time could see every drive in the system and their > descriptions were spot on so I could have installed then had I > wanted to do so. > > I could see that the internal drive is a Kingston ssD > with 2 terabytes and all the partitions including Microsoft's > partition were listed. I am sorely tempted to plug a real > keyboard in to a usb converter which has a number pad like the > good Lord meant keyboards to have, I mean a real number pad, not > these fake ones that only give you numbers but have no numlock to > cycle back and forth. > > When I was going to the school for the blind, they > started us in typing on QWERTY keyboards back in 1962 when I was > in the Fifth grade so it's nice when stuff stays in the usual > place. > > That time when I could see all the drives on the system > and could have installed Linux, I kept getting a really nice > keyboard help instead of the secondary consoles so I don't know > what changed but I couldn't call them up any more. > > The keyboard help said F1 when I pressed the key to the > right of Escape so alt + that should have switched to tty1 from > tty0. > > Anyway, I'll try your suggestion and see if I get slint > when I put that image in. > > When I get Windows 11 working again, I will have a laptop > with windows 11 or a Linux laptop if I plug in the slint image, > hopefully the correct one this time. > > I do see that the CMOS clock is right in that if I do the > date command from /dev/tty1, I see a utc date that is appropriate > for my time zone. Older Windows systems set the CMOS clock based > on local time so this one is new enough to do it the right way. > > Linux for blind general discussion writes: > > Hi Martin, > > > > to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you > > requested: > > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint > > but it was for a previous Slint version. > > > > You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick > > (or a SD > > card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: > > https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint > > > > Cheers, > > Didier > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Note that if you're in a graphical environment, switching to a virtual terminal is achieved with ctrl-altF1, ctrl-alt-F2, etc., and at least one of those terminals will be taken up by your graphical session. These days, tty1 is usually devoted to the graphical session; possibly tty2 as well. On 25/9/23 07:38, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: I appreciate all this information because I got in a bit of a hurry and ended up at the wrong site and the web monster showed me a 3-GB image for slint which I downloaded. The download went fine and the image flowed like good wine on to a 4-GB usb stick. slint-14.2.iso?viasf=1 Whatever this is, it's not a bootable image but probably all the sources which is a nice thing to have but won't do the job at hand right now. I should mount it and see what's there but it produced a thumb drive with 1 single partition of type hidden according to fdisk -l /dev/sdx. This whole project is going fairly nicely in that my wife helped me turn off secureboot and change the boot order to usb first then internal drive and, if the internal drive wasn't sick, I'd be up and running. Another debian-11 distro on a different thumb drive jups right in to the installation routine if you type s at the beeps and the system seems to just love it. Since the keyboard is a laptop keyboard, getting a secondary tty is a bit tricky. I had good beginners' luck after getting to the partitioner but I haven't been able to duplicate that more than once. I held alt+F1, I think and got the second console and was able to look around in /dev. The mentally-ill internal drive, however, was nowhere to be found and the only /dev/sdx listing was my boot drive for Linux. I killed everything and restarted but couldn't get the second console or any of the others to show but the partitioner, this time could see every drive in the system and their descriptions were spot on so I could have installed then had I wanted to do so. I could see that the internal drive is a Kingston ssD with 2 terabytes and all the partitions including Microsoft's partition were listed. I am sorely tempted to plug a real keyboard in to a usb converter which has a number pad like the good Lord meant keyboards to have, I mean a real number pad, not these fake ones that only give you numbers but have no numlock to cycle back and forth. When I was going to the school for the blind, they started us in typing on QWERTY keyboards back in 1962 when I was in the Fifth grade so it's nice when stuff stays in the usual place. That time when I could see all the drives on the system and could have installed Linux, I kept getting a really nice keyboard help instead of the secondary consoles so I don't know what changed but I couldn't call them up any more. The keyboard help said F1 when I pressed the key to the right of Escape so alt + that should have switched to tty1 from tty0. Anyway, I'll try your suggestion and see if I get slint when I put that image in. When I get Windows 11 working again, I will have a laptop with windows 11 or a Linux laptop if I plug in the slint image, hopefully the correct one this time. I do see that the CMOS clock is right in that if I do the date command from /dev/tty1, I see a utc date that is appropriate for my time zone. Older Windows systems set the CMOS clock based on local time so this one is new enough to do it the right way. Linux for blind general discussion writes: Hi Martin, to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you requested: https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint but it was for a previous Slint version. You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick (or a SD card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint Cheers, Didier ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I am not sure what is wrong but everything looks normal in the image-getting phase. I lifted this right out of the handbook: wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.iso wget https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint64-15.iso.sha256 The results are as follows: --2023-09-25 07:18:15-- https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint6 4-15.iso Resolving slackware.uk (slackware.uk)... 216.119.155.61, 2a02:2498:e004:2a::a861 Connecting to slackware.uk (slackware.uk)|216.119.155.61|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2023-09-25 07:18:16 ERROR 404: Not Found. --2023-09-25 07:18:16-- https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/slint6 4-15.iso.sha256 Resolving slackware.uk (slackware.uk)... 216.119.155.61, 2a02:2498:e004:2a::a861 Connecting to slackware.uk (slackware.uk)|216.119.155.61|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2023-09-25 07:18:17 ERROR 404: Not Found. In the past, I have occasionally had urls fail and it was my fault because I had written some perl code to make reading email messages and the like read more smoothly by removing some 8-bit charactors. This did, in fact clean things up but it's like fire, a wonderful servant but a terrible master. It made things look fine but sometimes altered punctuation marks and special symbols so that they were either missing or mangled and so I thought I had gotten rid of that helper code I had written for the output handler so I don't know if that bug has bitten again or what. urls are where this happens most often. I put a textual screen shot of how the wget went so whatever happened, it is sneaky. Anyway, thank you for your help. I am sure that this should get working soon as I believe that system is probably okay except for the corrupted Windows drive and I may have to find a usb instance of Windows 11 for that issue but that's for another list about the care and feeding of Windows 11. For here and now, the only problem is that the wget is coming up with 404's all round. Martin Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Hi Martin, > > to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you > requested: > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint > but it was for a previous Slint version. > > You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick > (or a SD > card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: > https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint > > Cheers, > Didier ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I appreciate all this information because I got in a bit of a hurry and ended up at the wrong site and the web monster showed me a 3-GB image for slint which I downloaded. The download went fine and the image flowed like good wine on to a 4-GB usb stick. slint-14.2.iso?viasf=1 Whatever this is, it's not a bootable image but probably all the sources which is a nice thing to have but won't do the job at hand right now. I should mount it and see what's there but it produced a thumb drive with 1 single partition of type hidden according to fdisk -l /dev/sdx. This whole project is going fairly nicely in that my wife helped me turn off secureboot and change the boot order to usb first then internal drive and, if the internal drive wasn't sick, I'd be up and running. Another debian-11 distro on a different thumb drive jups right in to the installation routine if you type s at the beeps and the system seems to just love it. Since the keyboard is a laptop keyboard, getting a secondary tty is a bit tricky. I had good beginners' luck after getting to the partitioner but I haven't been able to duplicate that more than once. I held alt+F1, I think and got the second console and was able to look around in /dev. The mentally-ill internal drive, however, was nowhere to be found and the only /dev/sdx listing was my boot drive for Linux. I killed everything and restarted but couldn't get the second console or any of the others to show but the partitioner, this time could see every drive in the system and their descriptions were spot on so I could have installed then had I wanted to do so. I could see that the internal drive is a Kingston ssD with 2 terabytes and all the partitions including Microsoft's partition were listed. I am sorely tempted to plug a real keyboard in to a usb converter which has a number pad like the good Lord meant keyboards to have, I mean a real number pad, not these fake ones that only give you numbers but have no numlock to cycle back and forth. When I was going to the school for the blind, they started us in typing on QWERTY keyboards back in 1962 when I was in the Fifth grade so it's nice when stuff stays in the usual place. That time when I could see all the drives on the system and could have installed Linux, I kept getting a really nice keyboard help instead of the secondary consoles so I don't know what changed but I couldn't call them up any more. The keyboard help said F1 when I pressed the key to the right of Escape so alt + that should have switched to tty1 from tty0. Anyway, I'll try your suggestion and see if I get slint when I put that image in. When I get Windows 11 working again, I will have a laptop with windows 11 or a Linux laptop if I plug in the slint image, hopefully the correct one this time. I do see that the CMOS clock is right in that if I do the date command from /dev/tty1, I see a utc date that is appropriate for my time zone. Older Windows systems set the CMOS clock based on local time so this one is new enough to do it the right way. Linux for blind general discussion writes: > Hi Martin, > > to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you > requested: > https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint > but it was for a previous Slint version. > > You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick > (or a SD > card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: > https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint > > Cheers, > Didier ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
[Jgeneral] Report of J Wiki Meeting 2023-09-21
== Report of Meeting 2023-09-21 == Present: Art Anger, Ed Gottsman, Raul Miller, and Bob Therriault Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Report_of_Meeting_2023-09-21 1) Ed has run into some problems with the beta of the J Viewer on Windows. The decision was made to put the beta on pause for Windows and to let the testers know that Windows testing is on hold until Ed gets a Windows box for testing. Bob had mentioned that he had seen a flash on the screen before components expand. More troubleshooting on that issue in the transcript. We determined that JQt version J9.4 does work for the Mac so that beta test can go forward, while we figure out the 9.5beta issues that seem to be related to the new version of JQt. 2) Bob thinks he will be off the grid for the next two Thursdays and for now will set the next meeting as Thursday, October 12. If this changes then the invitations will be sent out in advance of the Thursday meetings. 3) Bob plans to build out the landing pages in advance of the switch over to the new look wiki. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Home Also, required is for the J Search Bar to be put up in the wiki as it has been in the prototype wiki https://code2.jsoftware.com/wiki/Category:Home. Raul feels that we can do this when it is needed. For access to previous meeting reports https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki_Development If you would like to participate in the development of the J wiki please contact us on the general forum and we will get you an invitation to the next J wiki meeting held on Thursdays at 23:00 (UTC) Next meeting is October 12, 2023. -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
RHVoice under Fedora question
Hi, I want to install RHVoice from source under Fedora, but I have a problem identifiing names of the correct dependencies. Ubuntu says: apt-get install gcc g++ pkg-config scons libpulse-dev libspeechd-dev So gcc and g++ are ok, but I can not find the correct package names for other dependencies. Can someone help please? Thanks, Pavel ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'
On Sun, 2023-09-24 at 02:49 +0200, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > > Many standards come and go. > > Note that I agree that a better info viewer (and a better info on-disk > format) are necessary, but groff -Tutf8 -mtty-char | less -R is not > better. It lacks the ability to navigate or reflow (the latter '.info' > also lacks today, unfortunately). > > The solution to this is not to downgrade to man-pages, but to make the > 'info' format better (the source material, i.e. the .texi, for that is > already there) and to provide a better browser. ... Wikipedia tells us that "The Unix Programmer's Manual was first published on November 3, 1971. The first actual man pages were written by Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson at the insistence of their manager Doug McIlroy in 1971." GNU Info is a de facto documentation standard for UNIX-like operating systems in the same way that GNU Hurd is a de facto kernel standard for UNIX-like operating systems - which is to say, not at all. Forcing the user to "jump through hoops" - "Full documentation ... available locally via: info ..." - to gain a reasonable overview of the coreutils system commands is little more than a juvenile disparaging of the traditional Unix Manual. As for Info itself, I will always use "zless /usr/share/info/coreutils.info.gz", rather than "info '(coreutils) rm invocation'", just to avoid dealing with info's arcane navigation commands. Arguments about the de facto documentation standard for UNIX-like operating systems is not going to be resolved here and now, and adding a couple of sentences to coreutils/man/rm.x is not a big ask.
Re: coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'
Sorry, that was probably a bit harsh.
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
Hi Karen: Honestly, I had not considered which voice or how that would work. I did write Jeremy directly-and-told him that the program he suggested is on a site which requires javascript, so I mostly get a blank page. Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
Hi Chime, Your answer here has me a touch confused. If I follow, you want to say take an audio file of a newscast, feed it through this program, and have it produce English audio..using what voice source? Kare On Sat, 23 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Thank you, I had to install python3-whisper. Will examine it. I would prefer if the translation would also come back as audio. Thanks again. Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
I suspect there's nothing readily available in terms of direct automated audio-to-audio translation, even in the paid realm and that the best that can currently be done is speech-to-text on the input stream, machine translation on the outputted text, and then text-to-speech on the translated text. Though passable real-time translation of audio would be pretty darn cool. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
Thank you, I had to install python3-whisper. Will examine it. I would prefer if the translation would also come back as audio. Thanks again. Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
Sounds like you want whisper. It's an AI audio to text thing, from what I understand. There are docker containers for it. Beyond that, I don't know much else. But you can feed it recordings and have it spit back text, so it seems to be what you want. I don't know how many languages are available for it, though. - Original Message - From: Linux for blind general discussion To: Blinux Discussion List Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 16:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Can I Translate Audio Among Languages? > Hi All: Ideally, it would be wonderful if I could bringup a stream, lets say > in > Armenian, but have it play it for me in English. Otherwise, if one couldn't do > that live, I could install some software in Debian-and-feed it a recording. In > reality, I am a news-junky, but there seem no Armenian news-channels in > English. You would also think that Google has translation services-and-they > also own youtube, I should be able to pass it a flag to convert. I hope I've > explained what I am looking for. There are several Armenian sites with English > news, but so-far none with English audio or video. Thanks so much in advance > Chime > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Can I Translate Audio Among Languages?
Hi All: Ideally, it would be wonderful if I could bringup a stream, lets say in Armenian, but have it play it for me in English. Otherwise, if one couldn't do that live, I could install some software in Debian-and-feed it a recording. In reality, I am a news-junky, but there seem no Armenian news-channels in English. You would also think that Google has translation services-and-they also own youtube, I should be able to pass it a flag to convert. I hope I've explained what I am looking for. There are several Armenian sites with English news, but so-far none with English audio or video. Thanks so much in advance Chime ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I used the current release of GRML today for system recovery purposes (Grub needed to be reinstalled). After booting it from a USB drive, I ran both BRLTTY and Speakup from the shell prompt. I probably could have enabled them during the boot procedure, but I was in a hurry. All worked as expected, including detection of the braille display. On 22/9/23 18:20, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hi Martin, to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you requested: https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint but it was for a previous Slint version. You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick (or a SD card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint Cheers, Didier Le 22/09/2023 à 22:56, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : Thanks. I've wanted to give slint a try and this would be a perfect time to try it. Martin Linux for blind general discussion writes: I think slint can fill the bill for you. You can put slint on a flash drive if you need to do that and have it install for you. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
coreutils/man/rm.x - fails to mention POSIX "Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..'
coreutils 9.3 coreutils/man/rm.x Even though "rm" was modified, Sat Apr 20 00:03:09 1991 David J. MacKenzie (djm at geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu) ... * rm.c (rm): Refuse to remove path/. and path/.., as well as `.' and `..', for POSIX. ... the rm(1) man page completely fails to mention this particular POSIX promise. If the user already knows how GNU rm will respond to "rm -rf *", they don't need to look at the man page. If the user does *not* know how GNU rm will respond to "rm -rf *", the GNU rm man page is not going to help them. Language should be added to the GNU rm man page explicitly stating the POSIX behavior: If either of the files dot or dot-dot are specified as the basename portion of an operand (that is, the final pathname component) or if an operand resolves to the root directory, rm shall write a diagnostic message to standard error and do nothing more with such operands. including the additional requirement with respect to the root directory.
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Hi Martin, to clarify, I have provided an image of an installed system as you requested: https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-14.2.1/minislint/README.minislint but it was for a previous Slint version. You'd be better off installing the most recent version in an USB stick (or a SD card in an USB enclosure) as indicated in: https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_install_slint Cheers, Didier Le 22/09/2023 à 22:56, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit : > Thanks. I've wanted to give slint a try and this would be a > perfect time to try it. > > Martin > Linux for blind general discussion writes: >> I think slint can fill the bill for you. You can put slint on a flash >> drive if you need to do that and have it install for you. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
Thanks. I've wanted to give slint a try and this would be a perfect time to try it. Martin Linux for blind general discussion writes: > I think slint can fill the bill for you. You can put slint on a flash > drive if you need to do that and have it install for you. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I think slint can fill the bill for you. You can put slint on a flash drive if you need to do that and have it install for you. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Fri, 22 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > I have a HP Pavilion lap top system which my wife was using to > run Windows 11 and it is presently failing to boot but > fortunately for this list, that is not what I am really here to > post about. > > What I think I need is a bootable version of linux which > is similar in behavior to the many Raspberry Pi images available > that can fit on a SSD card. Usually, they are compressed and > will fill the SSD card one has written the image to so they are > not your standard iso live CD's but one uses it as a > self-contained Linux system. What I want to do is keep Windows > 11 on the SSD but get the laptop capable of booting off of a > bootable usb drive if it is present. If not, it goes ahead and > boots Windows. > > This will probably require changing the BIOS settings to > turn off secureboot and have usb be the first boot candidate > tried. > > Right now, for this discussion, I am asking if there is > such an image for a 64-bit system. If it talks, that's the icing > on the cake but if not, I still might be able to use it via ssh > from a system that does talk. > > I want to use this instance of Linux to try to fix the > problem the dead box is having but also use Linux to backup the > box since Windows does not have a native backup program. This > also gives me yet another portable Linux box as if I needed one. > > As far as this list is concerned, is there something like > this out there and does it talk? > > Another reason why I have not simply tried to use a > debian installation image is frankly because there is a slight > chance of accidentally installing it on the SSD where Windows 11 > currently lives so I want to avoid that if possible. > > The idea is to do no more harm than has already been > done. From what I read based on the error screen, the problem is > fixable but if I write to the wrong device, that pretty well > blows things up so I am playing it safe if possible. > > One person mentioned grml with clonzilla which sounds > like a good thing but at this stage, I am open to any suggestion. > Don't forget that it's a laptop so one can't just pop drives and > memory cards in and out like one should be able to do in a > desktop system so I am trying to avoid doing that unless the SSD > proves to be bad. > > Thanks. > > Martin McCormick > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Talking Images for 64-bit Laptop
I have a HP Pavilion lap top system which my wife was using to run Windows 11 and it is presently failing to boot but fortunately for this list, that is not what I am really here to post about. What I think I need is a bootable version of linux which is similar in behavior to the many Raspberry Pi images available that can fit on a SSD card. Usually, they are compressed and will fill the SSD card one has written the image to so they are not your standard iso live CD's but one uses it as a self-contained Linux system. What I want to do is keep Windows 11 on the SSD but get the laptop capable of booting off of a bootable usb drive if it is present. If not, it goes ahead and boots Windows. This will probably require changing the BIOS settings to turn off secureboot and have usb be the first boot candidate tried. Right now, for this discussion, I am asking if there is such an image for a 64-bit system. If it talks, that's the icing on the cake but if not, I still might be able to use it via ssh from a system that does talk. I want to use this instance of Linux to try to fix the problem the dead box is having but also use Linux to backup the box since Windows does not have a native backup program. This also gives me yet another portable Linux box as if I needed one. As far as this list is concerned, is there something like this out there and does it talk? Another reason why I have not simply tried to use a debian installation image is frankly because there is a slight chance of accidentally installing it on the SSD where Windows 11 currently lives so I want to avoid that if possible. The idea is to do no more harm than has already been done. From what I read based on the error screen, the problem is fixable but if I write to the wrong device, that pretty well blows things up so I am playing it safe if possible. One person mentioned grml with clonzilla which sounds like a good thing but at this stage, I am open to any suggestion. Don't forget that it's a laptop so one can't just pop drives and memory cards in and out like one should be able to do in a desktop system so I am trying to avoid doing that unless the SSD proves to be bad. Thanks. Martin McCormick ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: [Evergreen-general] Evergreen-general Digest, Vol 38, Issue 40
I am also interested in learning more about the Circ Training Roundtable idea. Staci Wilson (She/Her) | Why Pronouns Matter Executive Director, Office of Learning Support Schedule a Meeting Accommodations | CVCC Library | CVCC LAC Catawba Valley Community College 2550 US Highway 70 SE, Hickory, NC 28602 828.327.7000 x 4525 | www.cvcc.edu -Original Message- From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of evergreen-general-requ...@list.evergreen-ils.org Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 8:44 AM To: evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org Subject: Evergreen-general Digest, Vol 38, Issue 40 CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Send Evergreen-general mailing list submissions to evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to evergreen-general-requ...@list.evergreen-ils.org You can reach the person managing the list at evergreen-general-ow...@list.evergreen-ils.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Evergreen-general digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Evergreen-general Digest, Vol 38, Issue 35 (Terri Moser) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:43:36 -0500 From: Terri Moser To: evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Evergreen-general Digest, Vol 38, Issue 35 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I am very interested in hearing more about the Circ Training Roundtable idea. Terri Moser Circulation Supervisor Neosho Newton County Library "Never let a problem to be solved become more important than a person to be loved." -Thomas S. Monson On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:10?AM < evergreen-general-requ...@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Send Evergreen-general mailing list submissions to > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-gener > al > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > evergreen-general-requ...@list.evergreen-ils.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > evergreen-general-ow...@list.evergreen-ils.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Evergreen-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Staff Training Roundtable (Angela Simmons-Jones) >2. Re: Staff Training Roundtable (Joan Kranich) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:07:09 -0400 > From: Angela Simmons-Jones > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > > Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > Message-ID: > < > calcdntaqbnt6podf1m7sc-2wuchfg-+qj+e1ytetl7kjkg0...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would love to be a part of this! > > Angela Simmons-Jones > Assistant Business Manager > Houston County Public Library System > (478) 987-3050 ext 6 > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15?PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general > < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on > > Evergreen to get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > > > > > I don?t think we need an official interest group but I think it > > would be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what?s > > working, what isn?t working, what resources people are create for > > their libraries, what software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > > > > > If there is interest I?d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > > > > > Jennifer > > > > -- > > > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded > > Traditional Territory of
Re: [Evergreen-general] Evergreen-general Digest, Vol 38, Issue 35
I am very interested in hearing more about the Circ Training Roundtable idea. Terri Moser Circulation Supervisor Neosho Newton County Library "Never let a problem to be solved become more important than a person to be loved." -Thomas S. Monson On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:10 AM < evergreen-general-requ...@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Send Evergreen-general mailing list submissions to > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > evergreen-general-requ...@list.evergreen-ils.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > evergreen-general-ow...@list.evergreen-ils.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Evergreen-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: Staff Training Roundtable (Angela Simmons-Jones) >2. Re: Staff Training Roundtable (Joan Kranich) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:07:09 -0400 > From: Angela Simmons-Jones > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > > Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > Message-ID: > < > calcdntaqbnt6podf1m7sc-2wuchfg-+qj+e1ytetl7kjkg0...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would love to be a part of this! > > Angela Simmons-Jones > Assistant Business Manager > Houston County Public Library System > (478) 987-3050 ext 6 > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15?PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to > > get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > > > > > I don?t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be > > useful to talk about what training people are doing, what?s working, what > > isn?t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what > > software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > > > > > If there is interest I?d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > > > > > Jennifer > > > > -- > > > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional > > Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. > > > > > > ___ > > Evergreen-general mailing list > > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/pipermail/evergreen-general/attachments/20230920/f8b852ea/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:09:55 -0400 > From: Joan Kranich > To: Evergreen Discussion Group > > Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > Message-ID: > lz5v-6z_q_ta8r6s5pj_ok...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello, > > I am interested in attending. I'm sure there will be lots of interesting > information shared. > > Thanks. > > Joan > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:39?AM Dorsey, Britta via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > > I am absolutely interested in this! > > > > > > > > We currently offer Basic Cataloging certification via an asynchronous > > course on the Moodle platform (free), and I?ve been working on the > Advanced > > Cataloging course for a while now. We also offer live webinars every > month > > for other areas of the ILS and provide recordings of those webinars via > our > > training YouTube channel. Our hope is to create Moodle (or another > > platform) courses for each training. These would act as more of a > > supplement to the live webinars since sche
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Count me in, Jennifer. *Dawn Dale, PINES Services Specialist - Circulation* -- Georgia Public Library Service 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 291-2800, dd...@georgialibraries.org <https://www.facebook.com/georgialibraries> <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/subscription> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 9:13 AM Joan Kranich via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hi Kate, > > C/W MARS will also be creating a certification course. I look forward to > hearing your details! > > Joan > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:22 AM Kate Coleman via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> Our consortium has made an official cataloging certification course and >> we are in the works of finishing up the website dedicated to it. We'd be >> happy to share how that has been handled and how certification (which we >> started 2 years ago, but with a much clunkier process) has been going for >> us. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:07 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >>> I am interested as well. Thank you ! >>> >>> >>> >>> *Elizabeth Davis* (she/her), *Support & Project Management Specialist* >>> >>> *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System **(PaILS) | SPARK* >>> >>> (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org >>> >>> support.sparkpa.org | supp...@sparkpa.org >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Heather >>> Lindskold via Evergreen-general >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:05 AM >>> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> >>> *Cc:* Heather Lindskold >>> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm also interested in being involved in this! >>> >>> >>> >>> Heather >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >>> >>> Me too! >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >>> >>> I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! >>> >>> >>> >>> *Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager* >>> -- >>> >>> *Georgia Public Library Service* >>> >>> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 >>> >>> (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org >>> >>> >>> >>> *Join our email list* <http://georgialibraries.org/> *for stories of >>> Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities.* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general >>> wrote: >>> >>> I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I >>> think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We >>> used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these >>> have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the >>> travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more >>> people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on >>> sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they >>> weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have >>> had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are >>> comfortable and equipped for them. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen >>> to get together to talk
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training
We regularly run a few little reports that seem to help ease things for those concerned about resource sharing. One is a grid, with counts of circulations of “our stuff” in a month to “not our patrons”. Each row is a library or branch, representing the owner of items. Each column is also a library or branch, representing the “other libraries/branches” where items checked out. Totals for each row and column are there, too. Each cell in the resulting grid basically shows how much of “your stuff” checked out at “that library”, or at “all other libraries” in the total field. Or looking at it from the other direction… how much stuff from other libraries “your patrons” have had access to that they otherwise wouldn’t, without purchasing your own copy or doing an ILL. There are multiple versions of that grid, that first one is circulations (item circ lib vs circ circ lib). Others instead show holds captured vs pickup library, or transit sending vs destination library. But they all paint the same basic picture of what the impacts of resource sharing are in terms of staff handling of materials, and how much stuff is going out to other patrons, vs coming in for yours. (Of note… our consortium happens to be small enough to do such things, without the size of the grid getting out of hand.) But the favorite seems to be what we call “cost of items shared”. It is a dollar figure (derived from item prices) showing how much it would have cost to purchase all of the items that had been shared to them/their patrons in a given month, for each library. It is done per unique item, so shouldn’t be any double counting. Which probably matters more when we run it for an entire year. Giving people dollar figures for how much larger your own budget might have to be to provide the same access to materials your patrons are getting, if you had to do it by yourself… tends to grab attention. None of these reports would be particularly helpful before starting sharing, but doing something like that may calm some nerves afterward, once you have activity to draw the data from. Cheers -- Jeremiah Miller | 503-507-9258 (cell) Sysadmin | Albany Public Library (OR) -- From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of Diane Disbro via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:56 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Diane Disbro Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training [WARNING! This email came from outside our organization. Do NOT click unknown attachments or links in email.] Libraries can also enable settings that bring items home when their patrons place holds, overriding the holds queue. Some people are more nervous about change than others. That's o.k. But the benefits of resource sharing are fantastic. My consortium shares over four million items! Diane Disbro Pronouns: she/her Circulation Coordinator Scenic Regional Library 251 Union Plaza Drive Union, MO 63084 (636) 583-0652 ext 110 ddis...@scenicregional.org<mailto:ddis...@scenicregional.org> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 3:27 PM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: In addition to the age hold protection, we have a few libraries that use the high demand circulation modifiers to keep new things local. Using the modifier allows them a little more control when a movie, show, or reboot comes out based on a title and interest spikes again. Otherwise, a lot of our smaller libraries report how happy their patrons are when they are able to easily request items from other libraries without having to go through the formal ILL process. [cid:image002.png@01D9EB16.2EDA0BF0]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Support & Project Management Specialist Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fsupport.sparkpa.org%2f=E,1,9yvaqnYRYRHsgQWNbTSVr3xEgAEvakh2af3q_OvqRSm_SIzgHEm7cJ9WnhF71NgXtJ_XB2vUxQdCfA1DdTqcAYmKX1UARCz-cW5ujFGp3yM5y9ZwKZg,=1> | supp...@sparkpa.org<mailto:supp...@sparkpa.org> From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Frasur, Ruth via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:54 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Frasur, Ruth mailto:rfra...@library.in.gov>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training We have found exactly the same thing that Terran describes. Oftentimes, we’ve had larger, more well-funded libraries indicate that they’re afraid the smaller libraries will “clear their shelves” of new materials. In reality, we’ve found that the smaller libraries contribute a ton because they have retained items that are often weeded at the larger libraries, filling ou
[Evergreen-general] Reports Interest Group Meets Wednesday, September 27th at 2 PM Eastern
Hello Everyone, Just a reminder that the Reports Interest Group will meet Wednesday, September 27th at 2 PM Eastern. It will be an open agenda. Information on joining the meeting can be found here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=evergreen-reports:meetings:2023-08-30 Hope to you can join us. [cid:image002.png@01D9EBAD.8347CA50]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Support & Project Management Specialist Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://support.sparkpa.org/> | supp...@sparkpa.org<mailto:supp...@sparkpa.org> ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Hi Kate, C/W MARS will also be creating a certification course. I look forward to hearing your details! Joan On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:22 AM Kate Coleman via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Our consortium has made an official cataloging certification course and we > are in the works of finishing up the website dedicated to it. We'd be happy > to share how that has been handled and how certification (which we started > 2 years ago, but with a much clunkier process) has been going for us. > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:07 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> I am interested as well. Thank you ! >> >> >> >> *Elizabeth Davis* (she/her), *Support & Project Management Specialist* >> >> *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System **(PaILS) | SPARK* >> >> (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org >> >> support.sparkpa.org | supp...@sparkpa.org >> >> >> >> *From:* Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Heather >> Lindskold via Evergreen-general >> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:05 AM >> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> >> *Cc:* Heather Lindskold >> *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable >> >> >> >> I'm also interested in being involved in this! >> >> >> >> Heather >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >> Me too! >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >> I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! >> >> >> >> *Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager* >> -- >> >> *Georgia Public Library Service* >> >> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 >> >> (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org >> >> >> >> *Join our email list* <http://georgialibraries.org/> *for stories of >> Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities.* >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >> I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I >> think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We >> used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these >> have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the >> travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more >> people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on >> sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they >> weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have >> had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are >> comfortable and equipped for them. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to >> get together to talk specifically about training? >> >> >> >> I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be >> useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what >> isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what >> software is being use to create resources, etc. >> >> >> >> If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> -- >> >> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >> >> Co-op Support - Training Lead >> >> BC Libraries Cooperative >> >> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >> >> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop >> >> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >> >> >> >> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional >> Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >> >> >> >> _______ >> Eve
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Yes! Diane Disbro Pronouns: she/her Circulation Coordinator Scenic Regional Library 251 Union Plaza Drive Union, MO 63084 (636) 583-0652 ext 110 ddis...@scenicregional.org On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to > get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be > useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what > isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what > software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > Jennifer > > -- > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional > Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. > > > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Hello, I am interested in attending. I'm sure there will be lots of interesting information shared. Thanks. Joan On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:39 AM Dorsey, Britta via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > I am absolutely interested in this! > > > > We currently offer Basic Cataloging certification via an asynchronous > course on the Moodle platform (free), and I’ve been working on the Advanced > Cataloging course for a while now. We also offer live webinars every month > for other areas of the ILS and provide recordings of those webinars via our > training YouTube channel. Our hope is to create Moodle (or another > platform) courses for each training. These would act as more of a > supplement to the live webinars since schedules vary so much between > libraries. > > > > Britta Dorsey > > *Development Support Administrator* > > Evergreen Indiana > > > > Indiana State Library > > 140 N Senate Ave > > Indianapolis, IN 46204 > > (p)317-234-6624 > > > > See Evergreen Indiana’s Calendar > <https://evergreenindiana.org/?page_id=4516> for upcoming webinars and > roundtables! > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Kate > Coleman via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:23 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Kate Coleman > *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > Our consortium has made an official cataloging certification course and we > are in the works of finishing up the website dedicated to it. We'd be happy > to share how that has been handled and how certification (which we started > 2 years ago, but with a much clunkier process) has been going for us. > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:07 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > I am interested as well. Thank you ! > > > > *Elizabeth Davis *(she/her), *Support & Project Management Specialist* > > *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK* > > (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org > > support.sparkpa.org > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-dac01aac3bdad12f=1=2503af85-a2ec-4a62-902e-58ac9a525a29=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sparkpa.org%2F> > | supp...@sparkpa.org > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Heather > Lindskold via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:05 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Heather Lindskold > *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > > > > I'm also interested in being involved in this! > > > > Heather > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > Me too! > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > *Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager* > -- > > *Georgia Public Library Service* > > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 > > (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.][image: Image removed by sender.][image: > Image removed by sender.] > > *Join our email list* > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-0f926b504be84a09=1=2503af85-a2ec-4a62-902e-58ac9a525a29=http%3A%2F%2Fgeorgialibraries.org%2F> > *for > stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities.* > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I > think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We > used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these > have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the > travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more > people
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
I would love to be a part of this! Angela Simmons-Jones Assistant Business Manager Houston County Public Library System (478) 987-3050 ext 6 On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to > get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be > useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what > isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what > software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > Jennifer > > -- > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional > Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. > > > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
I am absolutely interested in this! We currently offer Basic Cataloging certification via an asynchronous course on the Moodle platform (free), and I’ve been working on the Advanced Cataloging course for a while now. We also offer live webinars every month for other areas of the ILS and provide recordings of those webinars via our training YouTube channel. Our hope is to create Moodle (or another platform) courses for each training. These would act as more of a supplement to the live webinars since schedules vary so much between libraries. Britta Dorsey Development Support Administrator Evergreen Indiana Indiana State Library 140 N Senate Ave Indianapolis, IN 46204 (p)317-234-6624 See Evergreen Indiana’s Calendar<https://evergreenindiana.org/?page_id=4516> for upcoming webinars and roundtables! From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of Kate Coleman via Evergreen-general Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:23 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Kate Coleman Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. Our consortium has made an official cataloging certification course and we are in the works of finishing up the website dedicated to it. We'd be happy to share how that has been handled and how certification (which we started 2 years ago, but with a much clunkier process) has been going for us. [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:07 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: I am interested as well. Thank you ! [cid:image003.png@01D9EB99.77C0D4B0]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Support & Project Management Specialist Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-dac01aac3bdad12f=1=2503af85-a2ec-4a62-902e-58ac9a525a29=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.sparkpa.org%2F> | supp...@sparkpa.org<mailto:supp...@sparkpa.org> From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Heather Lindskold via Evergreen-general Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:05 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Heather Lindskold mailto:d...@altoonalibrary.org>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable I'm also interested in being involved in this! Heather On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: Me too! On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! [Image removed by sender.] Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tlit...@georgialibraries.org> [Image removed by sender.][Image removed by sender.][Image removed by sender.] Join our email list<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-0f926b504be84a09=1=2503af85-a2ec-4a62-902e-58ac9a525a29=http%3A%2F%2Fgeorgialibraries.org%2F> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are comfortable and equipped for them. On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to get together to talk specifically about training? I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what isn’t working, what resources people are create for their li
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Our consortium has made an official cataloging certification course and we are in the works of finishing up the website dedicated to it. We'd be happy to share how that has been handled and how certification (which we started 2 years ago, but with a much clunkier process) has been going for us. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:07 AM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > I am interested as well. Thank you ! > > > > *Elizabeth Davis* (she/her), *Support & Project Management Specialist* > > *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System **(PaILS) | SPARK* > > (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org > > support.sparkpa.org | supp...@sparkpa.org > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Heather > Lindskold via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:05 AM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Heather Lindskold > *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > > > > I'm also interested in being involved in this! > > > > Heather > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > Me too! > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! > > > > *Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager* > -- > > *Georgia Public Library Service* > > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 > > (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org > > > > *Join our email list* <http://georgialibraries.org/> *for stories of > Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities.* > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I > think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We > used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these > have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the > travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more > people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on > sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they > weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have > had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are > comfortable and equipped for them. > > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to > get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be > useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what > isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what > software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > Jennifer > > -- > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional > Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. > > > > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > > > > > -- > > Elizabeth B. Thomsen > > Member Services Manager > > NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange > > Danvers, Mass. > > www.noblenet.org > > _______ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > > ___ > Evergreen-
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I am interested as well. Thank you ! [cid:image003.png@01D9EB99.77C0D4B0]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Support & Project Management Specialist Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://support.sparkpa.org/> | supp...@sparkpa.org<mailto:supp...@sparkpa.org> From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of Heather Lindskold via Evergreen-general Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 8:05 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Heather Lindskold Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable I'm also interested in being involved in this! Heather On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: Me too! On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/8c2XlzLbIIC6nDoa4yqQ8MzA0npF4WXpUnhhoK_uTqralZtjqVXRwPgmRep3jGYP6q41Sb0ULXqxX-QppYTC8cQyIfBAdqzLBgqvcQwVczkqqiunlj0KIbvy-R3bp-E0mlhF0A4v] Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager Georgia Public Library Service 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tlit...@georgialibraries.org> [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/ql1so1R8csbb2W7DW5vjWe3mTAcApuM7a5CMXbsYnhmF1bDmG62LM_C1BOOyWdkb2PZGKGlaYRIceHjsSvsWPXNw6HPCKqtFLMKCJiPVU0RXu2dAey13WZ02Q6E6FmzNDJ_d9iBf][https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/2qSr0-AREIyPSTC1gMsjyXLaBT-yQ7kS6iKvd1L9XrCXxhJDWCRo5eXBHCi7f35AZASOOyiH2Si-wtuXNR8YaA2j-17GWBmmo1mpGxXa7m-JwF4AzUD_5tZZE9n1NVilAJcnGtQs][https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jM_GEWd7EZGo5MFiR1koKEkiupb_lmwNEMpNiQE3U6k1C2FkyuiNjtGKlWWGfX8zbZ1135yhOHnJSINmMTXgEQuu2RlHIg5hDKxaJ9cmh3Nr6el_vN4ZHlXcAmoCPPWduwXi26m] Join our email list<http://georgialibraries.org/> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are comfortable and equipped for them. On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to get together to talk specifically about training? I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what software is being use to create resources, etc. If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. Jennifer -- Jennifer Pringle (she/her) Co-op Support - Training Lead BC Libraries Cooperative Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop<mailto:email%3ajennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general -- Elizabeth B. Thomsen Member Services Manager NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange Danvers, Mass. www.noblenet.org<http://www.noblenet.org> _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:Evergreen-general@list.
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I'm in! On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Me too! > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! >> >> Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager >> >> -- >> >> Georgia Public Library Service >> >> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 >> >> (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org >> >> Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/> for stories of >> Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >>> I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I >>> think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We >>> used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these >>> have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the >>> travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more >>> people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on >>> sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they >>> weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have >>> had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are >>> comfortable and equipped for them. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen >>>> to get together to talk specifically about training? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would >>>> be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, >>>> what isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, >>>> what software is being use to create resources, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jennifer >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >>>> >>>> Co-op Support - Training Lead >>>> >>>> BC Libraries Cooperative >>>> >>>> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >>>> >>>> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop >>>> >>>> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded >>>> Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Elizabeth B. Thomsen >>> Member Services Manager >>> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange >>> Danvers, Mass. >>> www.noblenet.org >>> ___ >>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> ___ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
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I'm also interested in being involved in this! Heather On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 8:03 AM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Me too! > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! >> >> Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager >> >> -- >> >> Georgia Public Library Service >> >> 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 >> >> (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org >> >> Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/> for stories of >> Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >>> I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I >>> think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We >>> used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these >>> have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the >>> travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more >>> people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on >>> sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they >>> weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have >>> had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are >>> comfortable and equipped for them. >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen >>>> to get together to talk specifically about training? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would >>>> be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, >>>> what isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, >>>> what software is being use to create resources, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jennifer >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >>>> >>>> Co-op Support - Training Lead >>>> >>>> BC Libraries Cooperative >>>> >>>> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >>>> >>>> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop >>>> >>>> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded >>>> Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Elizabeth B. Thomsen >>> Member Services Manager >>> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange >>> Danvers, Mass. >>> www.noblenet.org >>> ___ >>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> ___ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > -- Heather Lindskold d...@altoonalibrary.org 814.946.0417 x132 District Library Consultant, Altoona District Center County Coordinator, Blair County Library System ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Me too! On Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! > > Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager > > -- > > Georgia Public Library Service > > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 > > (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org > > Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/> for stories of Georgia > libraries making an impact in our communities. > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I >> think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We >> used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these >> have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the >> travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more >> people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on >> sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they >> weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have >> had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are >> comfortable and equipped for them. >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen >>> to get together to talk specifically about training? >>> >>> >>> >>> I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be >>> useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what >>> isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what >>> software is being use to create resources, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >>> >>> Co-op Support - Training Lead >>> >>> BC Libraries Cooperative >>> >>> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >>> >>> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop >>> >>> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >>> >>> >>> >>> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional >>> Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> >> >> -- >> Elizabeth B. Thomsen >> Member Services Manager >> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange >> Danvers, Mass. >> www.noblenet.org >> ___ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
I am interested as well. Thank you! On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 7:52 AM Tiffany Little via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! > > Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager > > -- > > Georgia Public Library Service > > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 > > (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org > > Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/> for stories of Georgia > libraries making an impact in our communities. > > > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I >> think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We >> used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these >> have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the >> travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more >> people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on >> sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they >> weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have >> had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are >> comfortable and equipped for them. >> >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen >>> to get together to talk specifically about training? >>> >>> >>> >>> I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be >>> useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what >>> isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what >>> software is being use to create resources, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >>> >>> Co-op Support - Training Lead >>> >>> BC Libraries Cooperative >>> >>> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >>> >>> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop >>> >>> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >>> >>> >>> >>> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional >>> Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> >> >> -- >> Elizabeth B. Thomsen >> Member Services Manager >> NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange >> Danvers, Mass. >> www.noblenet.org >> ___ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > -- Susan Morrison, PINES Operations Analyst -- Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7142 | smorri...@georgialibraries.org <https://www.facebook.com/georgialibraries> <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/subscription> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
I would definitely be interested in this. I think it's a great idea! Tiffany Little, PINES Bibliographic Projects Manager -- Georgia Public Library Service 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 | Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7161 | tlit...@georgialibraries.org Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org/> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 2:42 AM Thomsen, Elizabeth via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I > think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We > used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these > have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the > travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more > people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on > sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they > weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have > had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are > comfortable and equipped for them. > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> >> >> Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to >> get together to talk specifically about training? >> >> >> >> I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be >> useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what >> isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what >> software is being use to create resources, etc. >> >> >> >> If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. >> >> >> >> Jennifer >> >> -- >> >> Jennifer Pringle (she/her) >> >> Co-op Support - Training Lead >> >> BC Libraries Cooperative >> >> Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 >> >> Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop >> >> Website: http://bc.libraries.coop >> >> >> >> Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional >> Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. >> >> >> ___ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> > > > -- > Elizabeth B. Thomsen > Member Services Manager > NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange > Danvers, Mass. > www.noblenet.org > _______ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
I am definitely interested in this, and I think it's good timing -- I think a lot of us have changed the way we do training post-Pandemic. We used to do two-hour hands-on training sessions at our office, and these have been replaced by one-hour remote sessions on Zoom. Eliminating the travel time and doing shorter sessions has helped us to reach a lot more people, staff who were never going to be sent to NOBLE for the hands-on sessions. I used to do some online training sessions pre-Pandemic but they weren't popular -- the big difference is that just about all staff now have had so much experience with online sessions of all types and are comfortable and equipped for them. On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 6:15 PM Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to > get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be > useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what > isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what > software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > Jennifer > > -- > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional > Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. > > > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > -- Elizabeth B. Thomsen Member Services Manager NOBLE: North of Boston Library Exchange Danvers, Mass. www.noblenet.org _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Jgeneral] Report of J Wiki Meeting of 2023-09-14
== Report of Meeting 2023-09-14 == Present: Ed Gottsman, Raul Miller, and Bob Therriault Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Report_of_Meeting_2023-09-14 1) Ed now has 7 beta users on the J Wiki Viewer. The current bugs are that Bob has had a small issue with the update app button and Bill Szuch has had a problem with his Windows operating session where it takes J down with interaction. Bob and Raul have noticed that there are some mouse actions that will leak through when the mouse is outside of the application window and hovers over the J wiki viewer. Ed feels that there will be no more features to be added and so is looking forward to the beta cycle. Bob said he could also approach others that had been suggested before and will send personal invitations once Ed had okayed the copy. Ed is still looking for beta testers and can be reached at edward DOT j DOT gottsman AT gmail DOT com . If you are interested, you can contact him and he will relay the details for you to run the viewer. 2) There was a brief discussion about involving the J Playground and the Primer and possibly putting them together to provide a good online resource for newcomers. It would have to be a "lighter" version of the Primer that might not have some of the GUI or Data Processing sessions. Raul mentioned that it would be nice to be able to save state and be able to come back to specific points to the Primer/lab. Bob wondered whether there would be ways to at least keep the verbs and nouns that had been created. Bob also mentioned that he would like to simplify the URL of the J Playground a bit in place of https://jsoftware.github.io/j-playground/bin/html2/ A permanent (hopefully shorter) URL would allow us to start including links of examples within NuVoc. Ed asked if the J Playground had a way to save state. Bob mentioned that you can save the script into the URL and then when it is loaded the contents from the URL are put into the edit window. Raul mentioned a tiny URL that he formed as an example https://tinyurl.com/rotatingF that incorporates shaders, javascript and two lines of J. 3) Raul mentioned that there could be a lot of areas that we could expand into such as structural analysis. It would be interesting to see if it could be accepted as a general purpose language. Raul mentioned Cliff Reiter and Henry Rich as two who were involved with education. Bob mentioned Tom Allen as someone who has been doing a lot of work on advanced physics within the wiki https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Tom_Allen . Bob asked whether there were opportunities to explore certain disciplines as content for the wiki. Raul felt that labs were better used for this purpose. The wiki might be better used as an educational tool. Ed mentioned that the challenges with going into specific disciplines is that there are already existing libraries of tools that may be further advanced. Raul wondered if there were an opportunity to use J as a more flexible tool that may allow you to approach novel problems. Ed felt that there may be a way to use J to teach about how to think about problems. Ed wondered about how J might have been used with Jupyter workbooks (editor's note: Tom McGuire has done some work in this area https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Tom_McGuire/JJupyterNotebooks). 3) Bob wondered about topics that should go into the Developer Category for the wiki. Raul felt that areas of interest like structural analysis would be good examples in specific topics that would bring in good people who would further explore and develop using J. Ed wondered what would make somebody reach for J rather than Python or Swift. One challenge is the language knowledge itself, but a second is that it is more difficult to create artifacts with J than it is with other languages because some of the infrastructure available. Ed mentioned Norman Drinkwater's page on developing a stand alone https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/J9_Standalone application and Ed still finds that difficult. Raul felt that except for the DLL's everything could be a single file comprising of the text files. There may be issues with unpacking zip files and security. Ed felt that the web becomes a more attractive distribution method. Raul pointed out that one of J's advantages is that it can be used across multiple platforms. Ed thought that the browser was a friendlier multi-platform. Raul brought up JHS which is the browser version of J https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/JHS . Ed felt that if he could develop with J the way that he does with JavaScript he would be happy. Where he could have J tags with the same power of JavaScript tags with controlling the DOM. Ed's question is whether there is debugging support in J for the J Playground. Ed says it may be a documentation issue with more explanation being provided in the wiki. Ed wo
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Jennifer, That's a great idea! I would be interested in that. -Seth Seth Erickson Director of IT Systems Traverse des Sioux Library System 833-837-5422 ext. 703 507-237-6085 (cell) serick...@tds.lib.mn.us Submit a Tech Support Ticket <https://tdslib.on.spiceworks.com/portal/tickets> --- Seth Erickson Director of IT Systems Traverse des Sioux Library System 833-837-5422 ext. 703 507-237-6085 (cell) serick...@tds.lib.mn.us Submit a Tech Support Ticket <https://tdslib.on.spiceworks.com/portal/tickets> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:27 PM Cheryl Middleton via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > This is definitely I'm interested in hearing more about. > > *Cheryl Middleton* > > She/Her > Branch Manager/Librarian, System Trainer > > Buncombe County Public Libraries > > Oakley/South Asheville Branch Library > > 749 Fairview Road, Asheville, NC 28803 > > *p. **(828) 250-4754 * > > > > *Respect. Honesty. Integrity. Collaboration. Equity* > > > -- > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> on behalf of Jennifer > Pringle via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2023 6:15 PM > *To:* List - EG General (evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org) < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> > *Cc:* Jennifer Pringle > *Subject:* [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to > get together to talk specifically about training? > > > > I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be > useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what > isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what > software is being use to create resources, etc. > > > > If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. > > > > Jennifer > > -- > > Jennifer Pringle (she/her) > > Co-op Support - Training Lead > > BC Libraries Cooperative > > Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 > > Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop > > Website: http://bc.libraries.coop > > > > Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional > Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. > > > > --- > Sign up to receive emergency texts directly from Buncombe County for > breaking health and safety news. Text *BCALERT* on your smart phone to > *99411* to receive alerts on important information such as floods, > communicable disease, county office closings, and relevant traffic safety > notifications OR visit *buncombeready.org <https://buncombeready.org>* > --- > Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North > Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. > > This electronic communication may contain information that is > confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from > disclosure. Additionally, the unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, > legally privileged, proprietary, or otherwise confidential information may > be prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, you are > hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, > or disseminate this communication, any part of it, or any attachments. > Please notify the sender immediately and delete all records of this email. > There is no intent on the part of the sender to waive any privilege that > may attach to this communication. > --- > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
This is definitely I'm interested in hearing more about. [cid:42701024-87f3-4471-b436-af06cfb01df5] Cheryl Middleton She/Her Branch Manager/Librarian, System Trainer Buncombe County Public Libraries Oakley/South Asheville Branch Library 749 Fairview Road, Asheville, NC 28803 p. (828) 250-4754 Respect. Honesty. Integrity. Collaboration. Equity From: Evergreen-general on behalf of Jennifer Pringle via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 6:15 PM To: List - EG General (evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org) Cc: Jennifer Pringle Subject: [Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable Hi everyone, Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to get together to talk specifically about training? I don’t think we need an official interest group but I think it would be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what’s working, what isn’t working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what software is being use to create resources, etc. If there is interest I’d be happy to coordinate something for 2024. Jennifer -- Jennifer Pringle (she/her) Co-op Support - Training Lead BC Libraries Cooperative Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop Website: http://bc.libraries.coop Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. --- Sign up to receive emergency texts directly from Buncombe County for breaking health and safety news. Text BCALERT on your smart phone to 99411 to receive alerts on important information such as floods, communicable disease, county office closings, and relevant traffic safety notifications OR visit buncombeready.org<https://buncombeready.org> --- Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. This electronic communication may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. Additionally, the unauthorized disclosure of juvenile, health, legally privileged, proprietary, or otherwise confidential information may be prohibited by law. If you have received this email in error, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, or disseminate this communication, any part of it, or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately and delete all records of this email. There is no intent on the part of the sender to waive any privilege that may attach to this communication. --- ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Evergreen-general] Staff Training Roundtable
Hi everyone, Is there any interest from people who train library staff on Evergreen to get together to talk specifically about training? I don't think we need an official interest group but I think it would be useful to talk about what training people are doing, what's working, what isn't working, what resources people are create for their libraries, what software is being use to create resources, etc. If there is interest I'd be happy to coordinate something for 2024. Jennifer -- Jennifer Pringle (she/her) Co-op Support - Training Lead BC Libraries Cooperative Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop Website: http://bc.libraries.coop Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training
Hi Millissa, I agree with everything that’s already been said. Our libraries use a combination of age hold protection and specific circulation modifiers to restrict items as needed from being part of reciprocal borrowing. I think it helps libraries to know that they can keep parts of their collection from being included (especially around library of things collections). We’ve found having documented policies helps both the libraries and us. (We have three different reciprocal borrowing zones which each operate a little differently so the policies help us keep track of how each should work.) One of our zones does patron driven ILL and the other two do staff driven. http://docs.libraries.coop/policy/_bc_inter_library_connect_policies.html http://docs.libraries.coop/policy/_spruce_inter_library_connect.html One thing to highlight is the potential reduction in staff time. For us, overall interlibrary loans done through Evergreen take less time than when staff do part in Evergreen and part in a 3rd party ILL system. Also, Evergreen tells staff exactly what to do (pull this item from the shelf, send the item here, etc.). I have a webinar on ILL through Evergreen which I pull out and do for our libraries every couple of years. I’m happy to share my script if you’re interested. Jennifer -- Jennifer Pringle (she/her) Co-op Support - Training Lead BC Libraries Cooperative Toll-free: 1-888-848-9250 Email:jennifer.prin...@bc.libraries.coop Website: http://bc.libraries.coop Gratefully acknowledging that I live and work in the unceded Traditional Territory of the St'at'yemc Nations. From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of Diane Disbro via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:56 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Diane Disbro Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training Libraries can also enable settings that bring items home when their patrons place holds, overriding the holds queue. Some people are more nervous about change than others. That's o.k. But the benefits of resource sharing are fantastic. My consortium shares over four million items! Diane Disbro Pronouns: she/her Circulation Coordinator Scenic Regional Library 251 Union Plaza Drive Union, MO 63084 (636) 583-0652 ext 110 ddis...@scenicregional.org<mailto:ddis...@scenicregional.org> On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 3:27 PM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: In addition to the age hold protection, we have a few libraries that use the high demand circulation modifiers to keep new things local. Using the modifier allows them a little more control when a movie, show, or reboot comes out based on a title and interest spikes again. Otherwise, a lot of our smaller libraries report how happy their patrons are when they are able to easily request items from other libraries without having to go through the formal ILL process. [cid:image002.png@01D9EB16.2EDA0BF0]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Support & Project Management Specialist Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://support.sparkpa.org/> | supp...@sparkpa.org<mailto:supp...@sparkpa.org> From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Frasur, Ruth via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:54 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Frasur, Ruth mailto:rfra...@library.in.gov>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training We have found exactly the same thing that Terran describes. Oftentimes, we’ve had larger, more well-funded libraries indicate that they’re afraid the smaller libraries will “clear their shelves” of new materials. In reality, we’ve found that the smaller libraries contribute a ton because they have retained items that are often weeded at the larger libraries, filling out series and providing access to items that are out of publication. Age protection is the thing that seems to alleviate the fear. We have found that three month age protection generally works best except for those few outliers (think Harry Potter, Twilight, Spare…). Ruth Frasur Davis (she/they) Coordinator Evergreen Indiana Library Consortium Evergreen Community Development Initiative Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 232-3691 From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:13 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Terran McCanna mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT ope
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training
Libraries can also enable settings that bring items home when their patrons place holds, overriding the holds queue. Some people are more nervous about change than others. That's o.k. But the benefits of resource sharing are fantastic. My consortium shares over four million items! Diane Disbro Pronouns: she/her Circulation Coordinator Scenic Regional Library 251 Union Plaza Drive Union, MO 63084 (636) 583-0652 ext 110 ddis...@scenicregional.org On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 3:27 PM Elizabeth Davis via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > In addition to the age hold protection, we have a few libraries that use > the high demand circulation modifiers to keep new things local. Using the > modifier allows them a little more control when a movie, show, or reboot > comes out based on a title and interest spikes again. > > > > Otherwise, a lot of our smaller libraries report how happy their patrons > are when they are able to easily request items from other libraries without > having to go through the formal ILL process. > > > > *Elizabeth Davis* (she/her), *Support & Project Management Specialist* > > *Pennsylvania Integrated Library System **(PaILS) | SPARK* > > (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org > > support.sparkpa.org | supp...@sparkpa.org > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Frasur, > Ruth via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:54 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Frasur, Ruth > *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training > > > > We have found exactly the same thing that Terran describes. Oftentimes, > we’ve had larger, more well-funded libraries indicate that they’re afraid > the smaller libraries will “clear their shelves” of new materials. In > reality, we’ve found that the smaller libraries contribute a ton because > they have retained items that are often weeded at the larger libraries, > filling out series and providing access to items that are out of > publication. Age protection is the thing that seems to alleviate the > fear. We have found that three month age protection generally works best > except for those few outliers (think Harry Potter, Twilight, Spare…). > > > > Ruth Frasur Davis (she/they) > > Coordinator > > *Evergreen Indiana Library Consortium* > > *Evergreen Community Development Initiative* > > Indiana State Library > > 140 N. Senate Ave. > > Indianapolis, IN 46204 > > (317) 232-3691 > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Terran > McCanna via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:13 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Terran McCanna > *Subject:* Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training > > > > This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments > or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. > -- > > My suggestion is to put the emphasis on how much it will improve the > patron experience by being able to offer them so many more titles than they > currently have access to. > > > > We have done resource sharing in Georgia since the beginning of PINES and > one of the things that we have found is that oftentimes the less > well-funded libraries that can't afford all of the new books end up being > really valuable for holds because they may have some of the older titles > that other branches have weeded. > > > > Also, if you are using age protection, then staff can be sure that their > local patrons are still getting the brand new items first. > > > > *Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager* > -- > > *Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia* > > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 > > (404) 235-7138 | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org > > http://help.georgialibraries.org > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-d7e884baa02aea10=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.georgialibraries.org%2F> > | h...@georgialibraries.org > > > > > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-182506972c487026=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgeorgialibraries> > <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-50a85ecebced0abe=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fgeorgialibs> > <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> > > *Join our
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training
In addition to the age hold protection, we have a few libraries that use the high demand circulation modifiers to keep new things local. Using the modifier allows them a little more control when a movie, show, or reboot comes out based on a title and interest spikes again. Otherwise, a lot of our smaller libraries report how happy their patrons are when they are able to easily request items from other libraries without having to go through the formal ILL process. [cid:image002.png@01D9EB16.2EDA0BF0]Elizabeth Davis (she/her), Support & Project Management Specialist Pennsylvania Integrated Library System (PaILS) | SPARK (717) 256-1627 | elizabeth.da...@sparkpa.org<mailto:katherine.dann...@sparkpa.org> support.sparkpa.org<https://support.sparkpa.org/> | supp...@sparkpa.org<mailto:supp...@sparkpa.org> From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of Frasur, Ruth via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:54 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Frasur, Ruth Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training We have found exactly the same thing that Terran describes. Oftentimes, we’ve had larger, more well-funded libraries indicate that they’re afraid the smaller libraries will “clear their shelves” of new materials. In reality, we’ve found that the smaller libraries contribute a ton because they have retained items that are often weeded at the larger libraries, filling out series and providing access to items that are out of publication. Age protection is the thing that seems to alleviate the fear. We have found that three month age protection generally works best except for those few outliers (think Harry Potter, Twilight, Spare…). Ruth Frasur Davis (she/they) Coordinator Evergreen Indiana Library Consortium Evergreen Community Development Initiative Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 232-3691 From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:13 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Terran McCanna mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org>> Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. My suggestion is to put the emphasis on how much it will improve the patron experience by being able to offer them so many more titles than they currently have access to. We have done resource sharing in Georgia since the beginning of PINES and one of the things that we have found is that oftentimes the less well-funded libraries that can't afford all of the new books end up being really valuable for holds because they may have some of the older titles that other branches have weeded. Also, if you are using age protection, then staff can be sure that their local patrons are still getting the brand new items first. [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/fJoF6o0xl9XByQZmykva1sv2n_cKGUXL_BH4crkpJgSqDu-yU7-5jIypuXBsEuoXCCBAAUQ2jUztJlZDNUVOlwl1bWZIL1W4wmFuEEzCLVMxUyhzdkV7jkcRcdZZni2z8OPz4xJA] Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7138 | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> http://help.georgialibraries.org<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-d7e884baa02aea10=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.georgialibraries.org%2F> | h...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:h...@georgialibraries.org> [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/77DYzuoZ-zqC0pyQuYNKCrWaPuOANHsYTJze0JxE_iK4yW2sCswywdPCC8hCHOIyhO7KKIO-L6dlN1wIqdHFcyJmTa1fuc5Ok34dR8FQTtZHawpgNmovGxjg9RS0-WI74dFDHw0_]<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-182506972c487026=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgeorgialibraries>[https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/1bKX66xWgHe-v5FD5l-hYX4FrZDXi1Y2aKr0DZLDA_oEHy7s01WVqgVilQcwGBzRQZAg3yOePmZncGwtiYGSgavOkb0T5Tj3c46iUJ7ZE7h-MUEhVwXQs7Oc3cahIYMN2SGlk_6b]<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-50a85ecebced0abe=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fgeorgialibs>[https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U7PH5YIQnuRvbeMnGOlJAEPAre7Zqx_I6IDJAtJVwUDCp1-TmjSwP_x21qKx8ApsbcaILIuSpL3Pzau2Rz-phR_4IPcLR4LrIha_JMDHqombNtsfa1uhXcYS02QWTAyYqSf3ES_n]<https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> Join our email list<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-0f926b504be84a09=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=http%3A%2F%2Fgeorgialibraries.org%2F> for stories
Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training
We have found exactly the same thing that Terran describes. Oftentimes, we’ve had larger, more well-funded libraries indicate that they’re afraid the smaller libraries will “clear their shelves” of new materials. In reality, we’ve found that the smaller libraries contribute a ton because they have retained items that are often weeded at the larger libraries, filling out series and providing access to items that are out of publication. Age protection is the thing that seems to alleviate the fear. We have found that three month age protection generally works best except for those few outliers (think Harry Potter, Twilight, Spare…). Ruth Frasur Davis (she/they) Coordinator Evergreen Indiana Library Consortium Evergreen Community Development Initiative Indiana State Library 140 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317) 232-3691 From: Evergreen-general On Behalf Of Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 3:13 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Terran McCanna Subject: Re: [Evergreen-general] Staff training This is an EXTERNAL email. Exercise caution. DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or unexpected email. My suggestion is to put the emphasis on how much it will improve the patron experience by being able to offer them so many more titles than they currently have access to. We have done resource sharing in Georgia since the beginning of PINES and one of the things that we have found is that oftentimes the less well-funded libraries that can't afford all of the new books end up being really valuable for holds because they may have some of the older titles that other branches have weeded. Also, if you are using age protection, then staff can be sure that their local patrons are still getting the brand new items first. [https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/fJoF6o0xl9XByQZmykva1sv2n_cKGUXL_BH4crkpJgSqDu-yU7-5jIypuXBsEuoXCCBAAUQ2jUztJlZDNUVOlwl1bWZIL1W4wmFuEEzCLVMxUyhzdkV7jkcRcdZZni2z8OPz4xJA] Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7138 | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> http://help.georgialibraries.org<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-d7e884baa02aea10=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.georgialibraries.org%2F> | h...@georgialibraries.org<mailto:h...@georgialibraries.org> [https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/77DYzuoZ-zqC0pyQuYNKCrWaPuOANHsYTJze0JxE_iK4yW2sCswywdPCC8hCHOIyhO7KKIO-L6dlN1wIqdHFcyJmTa1fuc5Ok34dR8FQTtZHawpgNmovGxjg9RS0-WI74dFDHw0_]<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-182506972c487026=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fgeorgialibraries>[https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/1bKX66xWgHe-v5FD5l-hYX4FrZDXi1Y2aKr0DZLDA_oEHy7s01WVqgVilQcwGBzRQZAg3yOePmZncGwtiYGSgavOkb0T5Tj3c46iUJ7ZE7h-MUEhVwXQs7Oc3cahIYMN2SGlk_6b]<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-50a85ecebced0abe=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2Fgeorgialibs>[https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/U7PH5YIQnuRvbeMnGOlJAEPAre7Zqx_I6IDJAtJVwUDCp1-TmjSwP_x21qKx8ApsbcaILIuSpL3Pzau2Rz-phR_4IPcLR4LrIha_JMDHqombNtsfa1uhXcYS02QWTAyYqSf3ES_n]<https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> Join our email list<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-0f926b504be84a09=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=http%3A%2F%2Fgeorgialibraries.org%2F> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 2:43 PM Millissa Macomber via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: For anyone who does staff training - Our system is in the process of beginning to share resources between libraries. I have one library with a large number of staff members who are reluctant and unhappy about the changes. Any suggestion on how to alleviate the fears surrounding sharing resources? I have a staff training planned for November so I would love some ideas. Millissa Macomber, ILS Manager Central Skagit Library District 110 W. State St. Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 360-755-3985 www.centralskagitlibrary.org<https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-50bba2bf-31367a34-4544474f5631-af22d0555fc4f04b=1=0760b2f1-5679-4c54-9394-13fb44eec91e=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.centralskagitlibrary.org%2F> milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org<mailto:milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org> _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org<mailto:Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf
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This may seem obvious, but I suggest that you demonstrate how many more resources they'll have access to by running side-by-side searches of their current collection and the shared collection. Is it possible to compare the library's current hold turn around time to what it will be projected to be? On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 3:13 PM Terran McCanna via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > My suggestion is to put the emphasis on how much it will improve the > patron experience by being able to offer them so many more titles than they > currently have access to. > > We have done resource sharing in Georgia since the beginning of PINES and > one of the things that we have found is that oftentimes the less > well-funded libraries that can't afford all of the new books end up being > really valuable for holds because they may have some of the older titles > that other branches have weeded. > > Also, if you are using age protection, then staff can be sure that their > local patrons are still getting the brand new items first. > > Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager > -- > > Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia > > 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 > > (404) 235-7138 | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org > > http://help.georgialibraries.org | h...@georgialibraries.org > > <https://www.facebook.com/georgialibraries> > <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> > <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> > <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> > > Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org> for stories of Georgia > libraries making an impact in our communities. > > > > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 2:43 PM Millissa Macomber via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > >> For anyone who does staff training - Our system is in the process of >> beginning to share resources between libraries. I have one library with a >> large number of staff members who are reluctant and unhappy about the >> changes. Any suggestion on how to alleviate the fears surrounding sharing >> resources? I have a staff training planned for November so I would love >> some ideas. >> >> >> *Millissa Macomber, ILS Manager* >> Central Skagit Library District >> 110 W. State St. >> Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 >> 360-755-3985 >> www.centralskagitlibrary.org >> milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org >> _______ >> Evergreen-general mailing list >> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >> > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > -- Allison Midgley Senior Technology Training Coordinator Westchester Library System 570 Taxter Road, Suite 400, Elmsford, NY 10523 914-231-3221 <914-231-3222> amidg...@wlsmail.org Spread the word about our programs! Let us know what you'd like from our Outreach Publications Catalog <https://www.firstfind.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/JANUARY-2023-PIE-Publications-Catalog-Current.pdf> . Hey Westchester, let's talk! Find out more at conversations.westchesterlibraries.org. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
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My suggestion is to put the emphasis on how much it will improve the patron experience by being able to offer them so many more titles than they currently have access to. We have done resource sharing in Georgia since the beginning of PINES and one of the things that we have found is that oftentimes the less well-funded libraries that can't afford all of the new books end up being really valuable for holds because they may have some of the older titles that other branches have weeded. Also, if you are using age protection, then staff can be sure that their local patrons are still getting the brand new items first. Terran McCanna, PINES Program Manager -- Georgia Public Library Service | University System of Georgia 2872 Woodcock Blvd, Suite 250 l Atlanta, GA 30341 (404) 235-7138 | tmcca...@georgialibraries.org http://help.georgialibraries.org | h...@georgialibraries.org <https://www.facebook.com/georgialibraries> <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> <https://www.instagram.com/georgialibraries/> <https://www.twitter.com/georgialibs> Join our email list <http://georgialibraries.org> for stories of Georgia libraries making an impact in our communities. On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 2:43 PM Millissa Macomber via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > For anyone who does staff training - Our system is in the process of > beginning to share resources between libraries. I have one library with a > large number of staff members who are reluctant and unhappy about the > changes. Any suggestion on how to alleviate the fears surrounding sharing > resources? I have a staff training planned for November so I would love > some ideas. > > > *Millissa Macomber, ILS Manager* > Central Skagit Library District > 110 W. State St. > Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 > 360-755-3985 > www.centralskagitlibrary.org > milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org > _______ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] [External] Staff training
We've found that resource sharing is one of the most popular aspects of our consortium. We've had some systems that expressed hesitancy out of concern for the extra work, their materials not being on the shelves, being damaged/lost, etc. When patrons suddenly have access to so many more materials, and they start flowing in the door that tends to change minds. We make sure to emphasize the 6 month age hold protection, aka if you paid for it, your patrons get first dibs. But, on the other side of that getting value for your money coin, if you have a 25 book set of Western novels and one goes missing, there's all the other libraries someone can get it from so you don't have to spend your collection development money buying another one. We notice that outgoing traffic has pretty good polarity with incoming traffic, so small libraries send and receive less stuff. A few things that come to mind... Benjamin Murphy NC Cardinal Program Manager State Library of North Carolina benjamin.mur...@dcnr.nc.gov<mailto:benjamin.mur...@ncdcr.gov> | https://statelibrary.ncdcr.gov/services-libraries/nc-cardinal 109 East Jones Street | 4640 Mail Service Center Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-4600 The State Library is part of the NC Department of Natural & Cultural Resources. Email correspondence to and from this address is subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties. Please note new email address From: Evergreen-general on behalf of Millissa Macomber via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 2:43 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Millissa Macomber Subject: [External] [Evergreen-general] Staff training CAUTION: External email. Do not click links or open attachments unless verified. Report suspicious emails with the Report Message button located on your Outlook menu bar on the Home tab. For anyone who does staff training - Our system is in the process of beginning to share resources between libraries. I have one library with a large number of staff members who are reluctant and unhappy about the changes. Any suggestion on how to alleviate the fears surrounding sharing resources? I have a staff training planned for November so I would love some ideas. Millissa Macomber, ILS Manager Central Skagit Library District 110 W. State St. Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 360-755-3985 www.centralskagitlibrary.org<http://www.centralskagitlibrary.org/> milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org<mailto:milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org> Email correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by an authorized state official. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Evergreen-general] Staff training
For anyone who does staff training - Our system is in the process of beginning to share resources between libraries. I have one library with a large number of staff members who are reluctant and unhappy about the changes. Any suggestion on how to alleviate the fears surrounding sharing resources? I have a staff training planned for November so I would love some ideas. *Millissa Macomber, ILS Manager* Central Skagit Library District 110 W. State St. Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 360-755-3985 www.centralskagitlibrary.org milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Evergreen-general] Reminder: Permissions Working Group Meeting Today
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[DFRI-listan] Re: DFRI på altenativa social medier
2023-09-19
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[Evergreen-general] TEP Board Meeting Thursday 9/21 at 2 p.m. ET
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[Evergreen-general] Collaborative code review session: next Monday
Hi Evergreen Community, With the goal of creating an amazing Evergreen 3.12.0 release, you are cordially invited to weekly collaborative code review sessions. In these, we'll meet for an hour to review recent pull requests <https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bugs?field.searchtext=%3Alist=NEW%3Alist=CONFIRMED%3Alist=TRIAGED%3Alist=INPROGRESS_type%3Alist=PUBLIC_type%3Alist=PUBLICSECURITY_option=none=_reporter=_commenter==_subscriber==pullrequest_combinator=ANY_cve.used=_dupes.used=_dupes=on_me.used=_patch.used=_branches.used=_branches=on_no_branches.used=_no_branches=on_blueprints.used=_blueprints=on_no_blueprints.used=_no_blueprints=on=Search=-date_last_updated=0>, read code, run automated tests, try patches out, provide feedback, merge code that is ready... all the best stuff! It'll be 11am Pacific / 2pm Eastern on Mondays, starting next Monday, September 25. We can meet at https://princeton.zoom.us/my/sandbergja. All skill levels welcome! You can join for as many or as few sessions as you'd like. If you have submitted a pull request that has been languishing and needs some review, please bring that along too. We're going for a fun, positive, and social tone. :-D This is not to take the place of any of the other great ways that developers can get feedback on their work (e.g. bug squashing week, the new developers working group, typical review process), just a fun supplement. Hope to see you there, -Evergreen 3.12 release team ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[BUG] tikz latex figures don't render properly in the html output. [9.6.6 (release_9.6.6 @ /usr/share/emacs/29.1/lisp/org/)]
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See
https://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
Your bug report will be posted to the Org mailing list.
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{tikz}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\draw (0,0) circle [radius=2cm];
\end{tikzpicture}
This is the minimal document to reproduce this error. I do have some
additional org config as follows:
#+begin_src elisp
(custom-set-variables '(org-format-latex-options
'(:foreground default :background default :scale
3 :html-foreground "Black" :html-background
"Transparent" :html-scale 1 :matchers
("begin" "$1" "$" "$$" "\\("
"\\["
(setq org-preview-latex-default-process 'imagemagick)
#+end_src
I have already tried changing the `org-preview-latex-default-process`
file, but thats doesn't solve it.
Instead of the figure it draws the command in a latexy font.
Emacs : GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.38, cairo version 1.17.8)
Package: Org mode version 9.6.6 (release_9.6.6 @
/usr/share/emacs/29.1/lisp/org/)
current state:
==
(setq
org-link-elisp-confirm-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-bibtex-headline-format-function #[257 "\300\236A\207" [:title] 3
"\n\n(fn ENTRY)"]
org-roam-node-display-template #("${title:*} ${tags:10}" 11 21 (face
org-tag))
org-persist-after-read-hook '(org-element--cache-persist-after-read)
org-format-latex-options '(:foreground default :background default :scale 3
:html-foreground "Black" :html-background
"Transparent"
:html-scale 1 :matchers ("begin" "$1" "$" "$$"
"\\(" "\\["))
org-export-before-parsing-hook '(org-attach-expand-links)
org-cycle-tab-first-hook '(org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe
org-babel-header-arg-expand)
org-roam-find-file-hook '(org-roam-buffer--setup-redisplay-h
org-roam--register-completion-functions-h
org-roam--replace-roam-links-on-save-h
org-roam-db-autosync--setup-update-on-save-h)
org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
org-odt-format-inlinetask-function
'org-odt-format-inlinetask-default-function
org-ascii-format-drawer-function #[771 "\207" [] 4 "\n\n(fn NAME
CONTENTS WIDTH)"]
org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-show-empty-lines
org-cycle-optimize-window-after-visibility-change
org-cycle-display-inline-images)
org-persist-before-read-hook '(org-element--cache-persist-before-read)
org-mode-hook '(#[0 "\301\211\207" [imenu-create-index-function
org-imenu-get-tree] 2]
(lambda nil
(setq prettify-symbols-alist
'(("[ ]" . " ") ("[-]" . " ") ("[X]" .
" ")))
)
ECFPAW/org-latex-yas turn-on-org-cdlatex
(lambda nil
(set (make-local-variable 'electric-pair-inhibit-predicate)
(list 'lambda '(c)
(list 'if '(char-equal c 60) t
(cons electric-pair-inhibit-predicate '(c)))
)
)
)
org-tempo-setup (lambda nil (org-bullets-mode 1))
org-indent-mode
auto-fill-mode flyspell-mode
#[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
[add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-fold-show-all append
local] 5]
#[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
[add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel-show-result-all
append local]
5]
org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
org-babel-load-languages '((emacs-lisp . t) (python . t))
org-roam-ref-annotation-function 'org-roam-ref-read--annotation
org-roam-directory "/home/tusharhero/Documents/roam"
org-latex-format-drawer-function #[514 "\207" [] 3 "\n\n(fn _ CONTENTS)"]
org-roam-db-node-include-function #[0 "\300\207" [t] 1]
org-latex-format-headline-function
'org-latex-format-headline-default-function
org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-html-format-drawer-function #[514 "\207" [] 3 "\n\n(fn NAME CONTENTS)"]
outline-isearch-open-invisible-function 'outline-isearch-open-invisible
org-odt-format-headline-function 'org-odt-format-headline-default-function
org-protocol-protocol-alist '(("org-roam-node" :protocol "roam-node"
:function
org-roam-protocol-open-node)
("org-roam-ref" :protocol "roam-ref" :function
org-roam-protocol-open-ref)
)
org-roam-capture-preface-hook '(org-roam-dailies--override-capture-time-h
[Evergreen-general] 3.12 Release Schedule
Hi all, Apologies for cross posting! On behalf of the 3.12 release team, I'm pleased to announce the 3.12 release schedule. 2023-10-23 - Hackaway 2023-10-27 - Feature Slush 2023-11-06 - Feedback Fest Week 2023-11-10 - Feature Freeze 2023-11-15 - Beta Release 2023-11-29 - Release Candidate and String Freeze 2023-12-06 - Final Release In addition to what's listed above, we will also be holding weekly code review sessions to look at pull requests as a group. Dates for these will be announced on the general & dev listservs, and posted on the main roadmap page: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap The 3.12 specific roadmap is also up on the wiki, please fill it with your featurey goodness: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=faqs:evergreen_roadmap:3.12 On behalf of the 3.12 release team, Andrea Buntz Neiman Garry Collum Ruth Frasur Terran McCanna Michele Morgan Jane Sandberg -- Andrea Buntz Neiman Project Manager for Software Development Equinox Open Library Initiative abnei...@equinoxoli.org 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) x5583 *https://www.equinoxOLI.org/ <https://www.equinoxOLI.org/>* ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: UMAI 0.4: Welcome on Ubuntu Mate 23.04
Hello, yes, pipx is the way recommended by Debian and its forks, including UM. However, in order for an application to be installable by pipx, it first needs to be packaged for it, what's unfortunately not the case with ocrdesktop. I wonder whether it actually could be done, since ocrdesktop is not quite standalone Python app, it requires a few dependencies like tesseract that need to be installed via the distribution's package manager. It's something that could be worth looking into in the future, though, right now I've chosen a faster and simpler approach, where a venv environment is created and simply provided as a runtime. It's not particularly slick, but I doubt a pipx installation would be either, this is the choice of dependency problems vs. containers, size vs. order. Best regards Rastislav Dňa 17. 9. 2023 o 15:39 Linux for blind general discussion napísal(a): > pipx is available in some distros and once pipx gets installed one package > installed with pipx becomes available globally that is jrnl. At least > that's what happened on debian bookworm. > > > -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that > order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. > > On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > >> Could it work on other Debian-based distros like Linux mint? >> >> On 9/17/2023 2:44 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> as the title suggests, today I released a new version of UMAI, the >>> Ubuntu Mate Accessibility Improver utility. >>> >>> I felt this step to be increasingly more and more necessary, as the orca >>> and accessibility development in general is progressing and leaving the >>> last UM LTS in the dust. Wat's something I really love to see, except >>> UMAI needed some updates too as a consequence. >>> >>> Either way, 0.4 is here, bringing the support for Ubuntu Mate 23.04, and >>> all the new accessibility benefits. >>> >>> If you for some reason prefer sticking to LTS, that's fine too. 22.04 >>> remains supported like before, and will stay that way at least until 24.04. >>> >>> That's not the only change, though. Besides having the latest gnome-45 >>> Orca, 0.4 also removes the deb Firefox installation, meaning safer >>> browsing and less annoyance with reinstalls, weirdly behaving icons etc. >>> >>> another important change is related to ocrdesktop. As those of you >>> running the recent versions of Ubuntu / Debian have likely noticed, >>> there is a new policy being enforced in regards to working with Python >>> packages. It's no longer possible to install global packages / >>> dependencies like before, every Python app needs to have its own virtual >>> environment, where it's responsible for handling its dependencies. >>> >>> In other words, we're now forced to do things properly, what's quite a mess. >>> >>> Fortunately, if you don't want to fiddle with environments, packages and >>> dependencies, UMAI will now do this for you, on all supported systems. >>> >>> I'm really, really glad I can provide this functionality, ocrdesktop is >>> a critically essential accessibility tool, and I really can't imagine >>> any newcomer to Linux who may have no technical knowledge / skills at >>> all dealing with this. >>> >>> See: >>> https://github.com/RastislavKish/umai >>> >>> for more information. >>> >>> Have fun >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Rastislav >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Blinux-list mailing list >>> Blinux-list@redhat.com >>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> >> >> > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: UMAI 0.4: Welcome on Ubuntu Mate 23.04
Hello, it depends on the specific script part. Considering the individual operations as listed in the project's readme, 1 is UM specific, 2 could technically be adapted to work on other platforms, but I would need to implement a libatspi version check to determine which version of orca to install, plus the symlinking hack we're doing right now is Ubuntu specific I guess. 3 is system agnostic I think, 4 is UM specific and 5 should be also rather universal, at least on debian forks. So, in theory yes, I believe it could be done, but there would inevitably need to be increased amount of platform branching in the code, making it harder for people to follow if they want to see what's happening to their system, also the development would become increasingly more difficult. Personally I don't like shell scripts for more complex programs, I'm in for all sorts of simplicity so yeah, I understand it's awesome to use a simple shell script when you need to say perform an automated installation, execution or something of that kind, but if the script needs to do things like parse output from various commands, and people start doing all sorts of write-only awk magic, for me it's more reasonable to write the script in a full-fledged programming language, where the code would be readable and thoroughly checked by the compiler. Though, one thing the shell scripts actually are doing very well is the permissions job. In case of umai, there are operations that need to be done as root, like updating and installing packages, and then, there are things you likely do not want to do as root, such as cloning a repository, installing Python dependencies into a virtual environment etc. If I were to rewrite UMAI in a full-fledged programming language, this is something I would need to consider. Best regards Rastislav Dňa 17. 9. 2023 o 10:29 Linux for blind general discussion napísal(a): > Could it work on other Debian-based distros like Linux mint? > > On 9/17/2023 2:44 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> as the title suggests, today I released a new version of UMAI, the >> Ubuntu Mate Accessibility Improver utility. >> >> I felt this step to be increasingly more and more necessary, as the orca >> and accessibility development in general is progressing and leaving the >> last UM LTS in the dust. Wat's something I really love to see, except >> UMAI needed some updates too as a consequence. >> >> Either way, 0.4 is here, bringing the support for Ubuntu Mate 23.04, and >> all the new accessibility benefits. >> >> If you for some reason prefer sticking to LTS, that's fine too. 22.04 >> remains supported like before, and will stay that way at least until 24.04. >> >> That's not the only change, though. Besides having the latest gnome-45 >> Orca, 0.4 also removes the deb Firefox installation, meaning safer >> browsing and less annoyance with reinstalls, weirdly behaving icons etc. >> >> another important change is related to ocrdesktop. As those of you >> running the recent versions of Ubuntu / Debian have likely noticed, >> there is a new policy being enforced in regards to working with Python >> packages. It's no longer possible to install global packages / >> dependencies like before, every Python app needs to have its own virtual >> environment, where it's responsible for handling its dependencies. >> >> In other words, we're now forced to do things properly, what's quite a mess. >> >> Fortunately, if you don't want to fiddle with environments, packages and >> dependencies, UMAI will now do this for you, on all supported systems. >> >> I'm really, really glad I can provide this functionality, ocrdesktop is >> a critically essential accessibility tool, and I really can't imagine >> any newcomer to Linux who may have no technical knowledge / skills at >> all dealing with this. >> >> See: >> https://github.com/RastislavKish/umai >> >> for more information. >> >> Have fun >> >> Best regards >> >> Rastislav >> >> >> ___ >> Blinux-list mailing list >> Blinux-list@redhat.com >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >> > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: UMAI 0.4: Welcome on Ubuntu Mate 23.04
pipx is available in some distros and once pipx gets installed one package installed with pipx becomes available globally that is jrnl. At least that's what happened on debian bookworm. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Sun, 17 Sep 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > Could it work on other Debian-based distros like Linux mint? > > On 9/17/2023 2:44 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > as the title suggests, today I released a new version of UMAI, the > > Ubuntu Mate Accessibility Improver utility. > > > > I felt this step to be increasingly more and more necessary, as the orca > > and accessibility development in general is progressing and leaving the > > last UM LTS in the dust. Wat's something I really love to see, except > > UMAI needed some updates too as a consequence. > > > > Either way, 0.4 is here, bringing the support for Ubuntu Mate 23.04, and > > all the new accessibility benefits. > > > > If you for some reason prefer sticking to LTS, that's fine too. 22.04 > > remains supported like before, and will stay that way at least until 24.04. > > > > That's not the only change, though. Besides having the latest gnome-45 > > Orca, 0.4 also removes the deb Firefox installation, meaning safer > > browsing and less annoyance with reinstalls, weirdly behaving icons etc. > > > > another important change is related to ocrdesktop. As those of you > > running the recent versions of Ubuntu / Debian have likely noticed, > > there is a new policy being enforced in regards to working with Python > > packages. It's no longer possible to install global packages / > > dependencies like before, every Python app needs to have its own virtual > > environment, where it's responsible for handling its dependencies. > > > > In other words, we're now forced to do things properly, what's quite a mess. > > > > Fortunately, if you don't want to fiddle with environments, packages and > > dependencies, UMAI will now do this for you, on all supported systems. > > > > I'm really, really glad I can provide this functionality, ocrdesktop is > > a critically essential accessibility tool, and I really can't imagine > > any newcomer to Linux who may have no technical knowledge / skills at > > all dealing with this. > > > > See: > > https://github.com/RastislavKish/umai > > > > for more information. > > > > Have fun > > > > Best regards > > > > Rastislav > > > > > > ___ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > ___ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: UMAI 0.4: Welcome on Ubuntu Mate 23.04
Could it work on other Debian-based distros like Linux mint? On 9/17/2023 2:44 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: Hello everyone, as the title suggests, today I released a new version of UMAI, the Ubuntu Mate Accessibility Improver utility. I felt this step to be increasingly more and more necessary, as the orca and accessibility development in general is progressing and leaving the last UM LTS in the dust. Wat's something I really love to see, except UMAI needed some updates too as a consequence. Either way, 0.4 is here, bringing the support for Ubuntu Mate 23.04, and all the new accessibility benefits. If you for some reason prefer sticking to LTS, that's fine too. 22.04 remains supported like before, and will stay that way at least until 24.04. That's not the only change, though. Besides having the latest gnome-45 Orca, 0.4 also removes the deb Firefox installation, meaning safer browsing and less annoyance with reinstalls, weirdly behaving icons etc. another important change is related to ocrdesktop. As those of you running the recent versions of Ubuntu / Debian have likely noticed, there is a new policy being enforced in regards to working with Python packages. It's no longer possible to install global packages / dependencies like before, every Python app needs to have its own virtual environment, where it's responsible for handling its dependencies. In other words, we're now forced to do things properly, what's quite a mess. Fortunately, if you don't want to fiddle with environments, packages and dependencies, UMAI will now do this for you, on all supported systems. I'm really, really glad I can provide this functionality, ocrdesktop is a critically essential accessibility tool, and I really can't imagine any newcomer to Linux who may have no technical knowledge / skills at all dealing with this. See: https://github.com/RastislavKish/umai for more information. Have fun Best regards Rastislav ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
development of linux phones for the visually impaired
hi My idea would be to install the sxmo user interface on pinephone and use it with orca or fenrir, sxmo is based on Sway andthe menus are built with dmenu or bemenu, which apparently doesn't work on orca, I was thinking about installing the i3 window manager for e.g. postmarketOS or mobian operating systems, would that combination work any better on orca with the pinephone keyboard add-on,I see great development potential in pinephone and other Linux phone solutions for the visually impaired community. The adaptability of the systems and their cheap price.Unfortunately, I'm not a software developer myself, but a power user interested in possibilities. Discussionsystems, experiences and tips, has anyone tried anything similar before. https://sxmo.org/ ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
UMAI 0.4: Welcome on Ubuntu Mate 23.04
Hello everyone, as the title suggests, today I released a new version of UMAI, the Ubuntu Mate Accessibility Improver utility. I felt this step to be increasingly more and more necessary, as the orca and accessibility development in general is progressing and leaving the last UM LTS in the dust. Wat's something I really love to see, except UMAI needed some updates too as a consequence. Either way, 0.4 is here, bringing the support for Ubuntu Mate 23.04, and all the new accessibility benefits. If you for some reason prefer sticking to LTS, that's fine too. 22.04 remains supported like before, and will stay that way at least until 24.04. That's not the only change, though. Besides having the latest gnome-45 Orca, 0.4 also removes the deb Firefox installation, meaning safer browsing and less annoyance with reinstalls, weirdly behaving icons etc. another important change is related to ocrdesktop. As those of you running the recent versions of Ubuntu / Debian have likely noticed, there is a new policy being enforced in regards to working with Python packages. It's no longer possible to install global packages / dependencies like before, every Python app needs to have its own virtual environment, where it's responsible for handling its dependencies. In other words, we're now forced to do things properly, what's quite a mess. Fortunately, if you don't want to fiddle with environments, packages and dependencies, UMAI will now do this for you, on all supported systems. I'm really, really glad I can provide this functionality, ocrdesktop is a critically essential accessibility tool, and I really can't imagine any newcomer to Linux who may have no technical knowledge / skills at all dealing with this. See: https://github.com/RastislavKish/umai for more information. Have fun Best regards Rastislav ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
[Jgeneral] The new episode of the ArrayCast podcast features Marshall Lochbaum, who previously coded in J
In the new episode of the ArrayCast podcast, Marshall Lochbaum tells us all about Singeli, a fast intermediate representation language that can support the array languages in an array friendly way. Host: Conor Hoekstra Panel: Marshall Lochbaum, Adám Brudzewsky, Stephen Taylor and Bob Therriault. https://www.arraycast.com/episodes/episode62-what-is-singeli -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Evergreen-general] [Evergreen-dev] Merging OpenSRF & Evergreen Into One Project
Unless there are other projects out there that are using OpenSRF (and I'm not aware of any), I think it makes sense to merge them. Having a single repository and install process would be a huge benefit, and I don't really see any downsides. The feeling at the dev meeting was that the merge should happen after OpenSRF migrates to Redis (https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/2017941), which seems like a reasonable timeline to me. In other words: I love this plan! I'm excited to be a part of it! Let's do it! Jeff From: Evergreen-dev on behalf of Bill Erickson via Evergreen-dev Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 1:24 PM To: Evergreen Development Discussion List; Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [Evergreen-dev] Merging OpenSRF & Evergreen Into One Project Hi All, At today's IRC developer meeting, we discussed a proposal to merge OpenSRF and Evergreen into a single codebase / project. The initial proposal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/2032835 IRC logs from today's meeting: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2023-09-12#i_533091 At the meeting, we reached a provisional thumbs-up on the concept. This is a big change, though, and the discussion warrants more space, time, and coverage than an IRC meeting can accommodate, so I'm hoping to migrate the conversation to the list. Thoughts, concerns, questions on the proposal? At this point, we're still at the "should we do this?" stage, but I'm also happy to discuss specifics regarding potential planning and implementation. Thanks! -b This message originated from outside the M365 organisation. Please be careful with links, and don't trust messages you don't recognise. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Evergreen-general] Cataloging Interest Group -- Sept Recording & Notes
Thanks to everyone who attended the Cataloging Interest Group meeting earlier this week. The recording <https://youtu.be/UXv1YdSDiqQ> and the notes <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W92XO0vSn8VU1Sbu2tubTUj7aww8qLW_gZP7HE16bn0/edit?usp=sharing> are now available on the Cat IG Wiki <https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=cataloging:meetings#meeting_notes> . We had an excellent conversation in our Part 1 of Monograph Parts program. I attempted to capture all of the notes from the chat in the final notes document. If I missed anything, please let me know. Join us next month on October 10, 2023 at 2pm (Eastern) for Monograph Parts, Part 2. Thanks, as always, Jennifer - on behalf of the Cataloging IG Organizing Committee --- Jennifer Weston, MLIS Senior Product and Education Specialist Equinox Open Library Initiative jennifer.wes...@equinoxoli.org *https://equinoxOLI.org <https://equinoxoli.org/>* phone: 877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) direct: 770-709-5574 _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] [EXTERNAL] Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen?
We are presently investigating! From: Terran McCanna Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:55 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Miller, Jeremy ; Dan Moore Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Evergreen-general] [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen? It sounds like a job for the Booking module. Have you explored that option? On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 1:55 PM Dan Moore via Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> wrote: Hey Jeremy, Thanks for those notes – are your patrons able to reserve kits in advance? We’re curious to empower groups to reserve kits for specific date ranges. All the best, Dan From: Miller, Jeremy mailto:jeremy.mil...@albanyoregon.gov>> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:01 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Dan Moore mailto:dtmo...@kcls.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen? We’ve done it… for bookclub purposes. Nothing too fancy about it, but my understanding is that it has worked fine for us. The item is a rugged, zippered book bag containing multiple copies, anywhere from 8-12 of them. The bag has a sturdy laminated tag attached to it by a keyring, that has basic information on it (title, author, number of copies, etc) along with a single barcode and an RFID tag. They all live on a designated shelf/location together, and have their own circ mod. They check out for 8 weeks, much longer than other items. I can’t remember how the individual copies are marked, would have to look as my last involvement was during planning/setup many years ago. I’m thinking they may have barcodes, but all of them the same… no individual barcodes, the whole thing is considered a single item. I do know if just one were turned in or found to be loose, staff can tell it was from a bookclub bag, and which one it belongs with. Probably on the spine label. The patron checking out the bag is considered responsible for the whole thing. Staff confirms all copies are present when checked back in. Their size prevents them from going in the bookdrop. (Theoretically, at least.) That’s everything I remember about them off the top of my head, happy to chat (and refresh my own info on them for it) if it helps. Cheers -- Jeremiah Miller | 503-507-9258 (cell) Sysadmin | Albany Public Library -- From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Dan Moore via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:41 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Dan Moore mailto:dtmo...@kcls.org>> Subject: [Evergreen-general] Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen? [WARNING! This email came from outside our organization. Do NOT click unknown attachments or links in email.] Hi all, We’re looking to launch a new service in which we create kits for book groups (or book clubs, or any variation of the name) to reserve. Each kit will come with a bunch of copies of the same book along with discussion questions. The idea behind this service is to anticipate different groups’ needs and allow groups to plan out a season of reading by booking months in advance which of our kits they’d like made available. We’re still hammering out the details, but I was curious to know if other Evergreen sites have programs like this. If so, I’d love to chat with you! All the best, Dan Moore (he/him) Integrated Library System Administrator King County Library System Service Center, Issaquah (425) 369-3413 dtmo...@kcls.org<mailto:dtmo...@kcls.org> [cid:image001.jpg@01D9E630.BF4D6780]<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fkcls.org%2f=E,1,eUM_AclAbhQpFi932VSeLsvBC3XemkqtDRZvOOjBcIrup6FHcvINAtWgtMwSD_8Xgamtk_JC6uq6XY9D2X1BCS7ne2KnmKllviWGmhMe3Kp8-L_5Jv1tk95cdw,,=1> King County Library System is subject to the Washington State Public Records Act (RCW 42.56). Senders and receivers of KCLS email should presume that this email and any attachments are subject to public release upon request and to state record retention requirements, unless otherwise exempted. __ DISCLAIMER: This email may be considered a public record of the City of Albany and subject to the State of Oregon Retention Schedule. This email also may be subject to public disclosure under the Oregon Public Records Law. This email, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immed
Re: [Evergreen-general] [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen?
It sounds like a job for the Booking module. Have you explored that option? On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 1:55 PM Dan Moore via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hey Jeremy, > > > > Thanks for those notes – are your patrons able to reserve kits in advance? > We’re curious to empower groups to reserve kits for specific date ranges. > > > > All the best, > > Dan > > > > *From:* Miller, Jeremy > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:01 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Dan Moore > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via > Evergreen? > > > > We’ve done it… for bookclub purposes. > > > > Nothing too fancy about it, but my understanding is that it has worked > fine for us. The item is a rugged, zippered book bag containing multiple > copies, anywhere from 8-12 of them. The bag has a sturdy laminated tag > attached to it by a keyring, that has basic information on it (title, > author, number of copies, etc) along with a single barcode and an RFID > tag. They all live on a designated shelf/location together, and have their > own circ mod. They check out for 8 weeks, much longer than other items. > > > > I can’t remember how the individual copies are marked, would have to look > as my last involvement was during planning/setup many years ago. I’m > thinking they may have barcodes, but all of them the same… no individual > barcodes, the whole thing is considered a single item. I do know if just > one were turned in or found to be loose, staff can tell it was from a > bookclub bag, and which one it belongs with. Probably on the spine label. > > > > The patron checking out the bag is considered responsible for the whole > thing. Staff confirms all copies are present when checked back in. Their > size prevents them from going in the bookdrop. (Theoretically, at least.) > > > > That’s everything I remember about them off the top of my head, happy to > chat (and refresh my own info on them for it) if it helps. > > > > Cheers > > > > ---------- > > Jeremiah Miller | 503-507-9258 (cell) > > Sysadmin | Albany Public Library > > -- > > > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Dan > Moore via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:41 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Dan Moore > *Subject:* [Evergreen-general] Does your library manage Book Group Kits > via Evergreen? > > > > [*WARNING!* This email came from outside our organization. Do *NOT* > click unknown attachments or links in email.] > > Hi all, > > > > We’re looking to launch a new service in which we create kits for book > groups (or book clubs, or any variation of the name) to reserve. Each kit > will come with a bunch of copies of the same book along with discussion > questions. The idea behind this service is to anticipate different groups’ > needs and allow groups to plan out a season of reading by booking months in > advance which of our kits they’d like made available. > > > > We’re still hammering out the details, but I was curious to know if other > Evergreen sites have programs like this. If so, I’d love to chat with you! > > > > All the best, > > > > Dan Moore (he/him) > > Integrated Library System Administrator > > King County Library System > > Service Center, Issaquah > > (425) 369-3413 > > dtmo...@kcls.org > > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fkcls.org%2f=E,1,eUM_AclAbhQpFi932VSeLsvBC3XemkqtDRZvOOjBcIrup6FHcvINAtWgtMwSD_8Xgamtk_JC6uq6XY9D2X1BCS7ne2KnmKllviWGmhMe3Kp8-L_5Jv1tk95cdw,,=1> > > > -- > > King County Library System is subject to the Washington State Public > Records Act (RCW 42.56). Senders and receivers of KCLS email should presume > that this email and any attachments are subject to public release upon > request and to state record retention requirements, unless otherwise > exempted. > -- > > > __ > DISCLAIMER: This email may be considered a public record of the City of > Albany and subject to the State of Oregon Retention Schedule. This email > also may be subject to public disclosure under the Oregon Public Records > Law. This email, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you h
Re: [Evergreen-general] [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen?
I am watching this discussion. We have handled book club kits in a variety of ways over the years. One way was putting the kits into the Booking Module. Staff then created reservations for patrons. Didn't work because staff couldn't remember to include a buffer period in the reservation and there were issues with the Booking module. Improvements may have been made to Booking since then. Now, people contact the staff person in charge of the kits to reserve them for specific dates.The kit is checked out by the moderator. Each individual copy has a barcode and an RFID tag and is checked out either to the moderator or the individual taking the book out of the library. Diane Disbro Pronouns: she/her Circulation and Special Projects Coordinator Scenic Regional Library 251 Union Plaza Drive Union, MO 63084 (636) 583-0652 ext 110 ddis...@scenicregional.org On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 12:55 PM Dan Moore via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Hey Jeremy, > > > > Thanks for those notes – are your patrons able to reserve kits in advance? > We’re curious to empower groups to reserve kits for specific date ranges. > > > > All the best, > > Dan > > > > *From:* Miller, Jeremy > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:01 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Dan Moore > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via > Evergreen? > > > > We’ve done it… for bookclub purposes. > > > > Nothing too fancy about it, but my understanding is that it has worked > fine for us. The item is a rugged, zippered book bag containing multiple > copies, anywhere from 8-12 of them. The bag has a sturdy laminated tag > attached to it by a keyring, that has basic information on it (title, > author, number of copies, etc) along with a single barcode and an RFID > tag. They all live on a designated shelf/location together, and have their > own circ mod. They check out for 8 weeks, much longer than other items. > > > > I can’t remember how the individual copies are marked, would have to look > as my last involvement was during planning/setup many years ago. I’m > thinking they may have barcodes, but all of them the same… no individual > barcodes, the whole thing is considered a single item. I do know if just > one were turned in or found to be loose, staff can tell it was from a > bookclub bag, and which one it belongs with. Probably on the spine label. > > > > The patron checking out the bag is considered responsible for the whole > thing. Staff confirms all copies are present when checked back in. Their > size prevents them from going in the bookdrop. (Theoretically, at least.) > > > > That’s everything I remember about them off the top of my head, happy to > chat (and refresh my own info on them for it) if it helps. > > > > Cheers > > > > ---------- > > Jeremiah Miller | 503-507-9258 (cell) > > Sysadmin | Albany Public Library > > -- > > > > > > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> *On Behalf Of *Dan > Moore via Evergreen-general > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:41 PM > *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group > > *Cc:* Dan Moore > *Subject:* [Evergreen-general] Does your library manage Book Group Kits > via Evergreen? > > > > [*WARNING!* This email came from outside our organization. Do *NOT* > click unknown attachments or links in email.] > > Hi all, > > > > We’re looking to launch a new service in which we create kits for book > groups (or book clubs, or any variation of the name) to reserve. Each kit > will come with a bunch of copies of the same book along with discussion > questions. The idea behind this service is to anticipate different groups’ > needs and allow groups to plan out a season of reading by booking months in > advance which of our kits they’d like made available. > > > > We’re still hammering out the details, but I was curious to know if other > Evergreen sites have programs like this. If so, I’d love to chat with you! > > > > All the best, > > > > Dan Moore (he/him) > > Integrated Library System Administrator > > King County Library System > > Service Center, Issaquah > > (425) 369-3413 > > dtmo...@kcls.org > > > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fkcls.org%2f=E,1,eUM_AclAbhQpFi932VSeLsvBC3XemkqtDRZvOOjBcIrup6FHcvINAtWgtMwSD_8Xgamtk_JC6uq6XY9D2X1BCS7ne2KnmKllviWGmhMe3Kp8-L_5Jv1tk95cdw,,=1> > > > -- > > King County Library System is subject to the Washington State Public > Records
Re: [Evergreen-general] [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen?
Hey Jeremy, Thanks for those notes - are your patrons able to reserve kits in advance? We're curious to empower groups to reserve kits for specific date ranges. All the best, Dan From: Miller, Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:01 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Dan Moore Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen? We've done it... for bookclub purposes. Nothing too fancy about it, but my understanding is that it has worked fine for us. The item is a rugged, zippered book bag containing multiple copies, anywhere from 8-12 of them. The bag has a sturdy laminated tag attached to it by a keyring, that has basic information on it (title, author, number of copies, etc) along with a single barcode and an RFID tag. They all live on a designated shelf/location together, and have their own circ mod. They check out for 8 weeks, much longer than other items. I can't remember how the individual copies are marked, would have to look as my last involvement was during planning/setup many years ago. I'm thinking they may have barcodes, but all of them the same... no individual barcodes, the whole thing is considered a single item. I do know if just one were turned in or found to be loose, staff can tell it was from a bookclub bag, and which one it belongs with. Probably on the spine label. The patron checking out the bag is considered responsible for the whole thing. Staff confirms all copies are present when checked back in. Their size prevents them from going in the bookdrop. (Theoretically, at least.) That's everything I remember about them off the top of my head, happy to chat (and refresh my own info on them for it) if it helps. Cheers -- Jeremiah Miller | 503-507-9258 (cell) Sysadmin | Albany Public Library -- From: Evergreen-general mailto:evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org>> On Behalf Of Dan Moore via Evergreen-general Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2023 2:41 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group mailto:evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>> Cc: Dan Moore mailto:dtmo...@kcls.org>> Subject: [Evergreen-general] Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen? [WARNING! This email came from outside our organization. Do NOT click unknown attachments or links in email.] Hi all, We're looking to launch a new service in which we create kits for book groups (or book clubs, or any variation of the name) to reserve. Each kit will come with a bunch of copies of the same book along with discussion questions. The idea behind this service is to anticipate different groups' needs and allow groups to plan out a season of reading by booking months in advance which of our kits they'd like made available. We're still hammering out the details, but I was curious to know if other Evergreen sites have programs like this. If so, I'd love to chat with you! All the best, Dan Moore (he/him) Integrated Library System Administrator King County Library System Service Center, Issaquah (425) 369-3413 dtmo...@kcls.org<mailto:dtmo...@kcls.org> [cid:image001.jpg@01D9E630.BF4D6780]<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fkcls.org%2f=E,1,eUM_AclAbhQpFi932VSeLsvBC3XemkqtDRZvOOjBcIrup6FHcvINAtWgtMwSD_8Xgamtk_JC6uq6XY9D2X1BCS7ne2KnmKllviWGmhMe3Kp8-L_5Jv1tk95cdw,,=1> King County Library System is subject to the Washington State Public Records Act (RCW 42.56). Senders and receivers of KCLS email should presume that this email and any attachments are subject to public release upon request and to state record retention requirements, unless otherwise exempted. __ DISCLAIMER: This email may be considered a public record of the City of Albany and subject to the State of Oregon Retention Schedule. This email also may be subject to public disclosure under the Oregon Public Records Law. This email, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Thunderbird and Orca
On a Fedora machine, running Orca, when using Thunderbird with two mail accounts, the program is started. But I must wait several hours then refresh Orca with f 2, orca --replace and sometimes I can then do what needs to be done. But sometimes, even doing that, I cannot move about in the program because of no speech, save for orca saying screen on. ___ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
Re: [Evergreen-general] Syndetics
Sorry was able to find the file. For future reference: Open-ILS/src/templates-bootstrap/opac/parts/record/summary.tt2 On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 10:05 AM Gina Monti wrote: > Hi All, > > Syndetics basically upgraded their discovery layer, but based on our OPAC > (been on Bootstrap for a while), we need to add a Javascript tag to our > bibliographic template in order to get the next upgrade. > > Does anyone use Syndetics Unbound and where did you add your tag to? I > may have some more follow-up questions; we haven't worked with a discovery > layer. > > -- > Gina Monti > Evergreen Systems Specialist > Bibliomation, Inc. > (203) 577-4070 ext. 109 > -- Gina Monti Evergreen Systems Specialist Bibliomation, Inc. (203) 577-4070 ext. 109 _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Evergreen-general] Syndetics
Hi All, Syndetics basically upgraded their discovery layer, but based on our OPAC (been on Bootstrap for a while), we need to add a Javascript tag to our bibliographic template in order to get the next upgrade. Does anyone use Syndetics Unbound and where did you add your tag to? I may have some more follow-up questions; we haven't worked with a discovery layer. -- Gina Monti Evergreen Systems Specialist Bibliomation, Inc. (203) 577-4070 ext. 109 ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: Bug#1051801: document DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS value nopgo
On 11/09/2023 09.25, Helmut Grohne wrote: It also is unclear how it affects reproducible builds since such builds depend on the performance characteristics of the system performing the build. It is worth noting that the performance (execution time) of a build-system does not matter for profiling, so it is possible to achieve reproducible builds with PGO enabled. It is just hard. See https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/499887 linked in https://github.com/bmwiedemann/theunreproduciblepackage/tree/master/pgo In that gzip patch we even had to hide the name of the temporary file from gzip to not get variations from a 'tolower' call that would be optimized for different amounts of upper/lower-case letters. Parallel builds and variations in ordering are also problematic, because some of the performance-counter-logic in gcc is not commutative, so running A and B calls produces different results from first calling B and then A. With all that said, in openSUSE we also have a %do_profiling value to disable PGO for gcc, python and some others, because these profiling runs are too large to make deterministic. Ciao Bernhard M.
[Jgeneral] Report of the J Wiki Meeting of September 07, 2023
== Report of Meeting 2023-09-07 ==
Present: Art Anger, Ed Gottsman, Devon McCormick, and Bob Therriault
Full transcripts of this meeting are now available on the its wiki page.
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki/Report_of_Meeting_2023-09-07
1) Ed did a quick overview of the J Wiki Browser for Devon and reviewed the
feedback that he had received on the application, which was very positive.
There was a discussion about the interface and the use of ticks in the sliders.
The database is currently only being updated once a day and this was deemed
sufficient at this time.
2) It was agreed that more beta testers were needed and it was suggested that
Ed make a presentation at the next NYCJUG meeting and that Bob would promote
the beta test opportunities on the next ArrayCast podcast.
3) Further discussion on the role that categories could play in selecting areas
of interest within the LiveSearch on the wiki browser. Possibilities were that
certain high level categories might be selected to group the results of
LiveSearch into common areas such as Math, Newcomers, Developers etc. Devon
raised a concern about the absence of a feedback mechanism in the search tool,
which Ed confirmed. Bob mentioned a comment on the YouTube demo regarding the
reversal of the expand and shrink buttons. Ed pointed out that this could cause
a conflict when the cursor hovers over the browser window, causing it to expand
if it had just been shrunk.
3) Bob reviewed the work that he had done on the J Primer with regard to
improved navigation and bringing he content up to date. Content changes
required included the new manner of creating GUI forms in JQt, a change to the
file structure for loading files in newer versions of J, and verbs such as nub
count that had not been included in the J libraries since 2007. Bob had checked
the results of each step of the Primer using J9.4 in the JQt IDE. Bob will
present the new version of the J Primer during the NYCJUG meeting in the
Beginner's Regatta section. Bob also said that he would take a look at
including the direct definition {{...}} in a future version of the Primer
4) There was a discussion about integrating J into web pages to increase its
utility. Bob mentioned JHS as a form that does this, but would require the J
engine to be downloaded. Although, this week Eric had updated the methods of
putting a J server on an AWS instance so that it could serve as a remote
personal J server. https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Installation/Cloud
There was further discussion about including a version of the Primer on the J
Playground to allow easier access to newcomers.
For access to previous meeting reports
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki_Development
If you would like to participate in the development of the J wiki please
contact us on the general forum and we will get you an invitation to the next J
wiki meeting held on Thursdays at 23:00 (UTC) Next meeting is September 14th,
2023.
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[Evergreen-general] Does your library manage Book Group Kits via Evergreen?
Hi all, We're looking to launch a new service in which we create kits for book groups (or book clubs, or any variation of the name) to reserve. Each kit will come with a bunch of copies of the same book along with discussion questions. The idea behind this service is to anticipate different groups' needs and allow groups to plan out a season of reading by booking months in advance which of our kits they'd like made available. We're still hammering out the details, but I was curious to know if other Evergreen sites have programs like this. If so, I'd love to chat with you! All the best, Dan Moore (he/him) Integrated Library System Administrator King County Library System Service Center, Issaquah (425) 369-3413 dtmo...@kcls.org<mailto:dtmo...@kcls.org> [cid:image001.jpg@01D9E584.184CA420]<https://kcls.org/> King County Library System is subject to the Washington State Public Records Act (RCW 42.56). Senders and receivers of KCLS email should presume that this email and any attachments are subject to public release upon request and to state record retention requirements, unless otherwise exempted. ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
[Evergreen-general] Merging OpenSRF & Evergreen Into One Project
Hi All, At today's IRC developer meeting, we discussed a proposal to merge OpenSRF and Evergreen into a single codebase / project. The initial proposal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/opensrf/+bug/2032835 IRC logs from today's meeting: http://irc.evergreen-ils.org/evergreen/2023-09-12#i_533091 At the meeting, we reached a provisional thumbs-up on the concept. This is a big change, though, and the discussion warrants more space, time, and coverage than an IRC meeting can accommodate, so I'm hoping to migrate the conversation to the list. Thoughts, concerns, questions on the proposal? At this point, we're still at the "should we do this?" stage, but I'm also happy to discuss specifics regarding potential planning and implementation. Thanks! -b ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Developer meeting reminder: September 12th at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific
It is not a private channel. There are guidelines and a link to a web gateway here: https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/ ABN On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 3:05 PM Tim Weisbrod via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > I may just be in the wrong place, but don't see #evergreen on Libera. > > Is it private / do I need to be granted access? > > Thanks! > > -- > *From:* Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general-boun...@list.evergreen-ils.org> on behalf of Blake > Graham-Henderson via Evergreen-general < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> > *Sent:* Monday, September 11, 2023 10:40 AM > *To:* Evergreen Development Discussion List < > evergreen-...@list.evergreen-ils.org>; Evergreen Discussion Group < > evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org>; eg-newdevs < > eg-newd...@list.evergreen-ils.org> > *Cc:* Blake Graham-Henderson > *Subject:* [Evergreen-general] Developer meeting reminder: September 12th > at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific > > All, > > A friendly reminder that we'll have our Evergreen dev meeting in IRC > tomorrow, September 12th at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific. > > Agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2023-09-12 > > -- > -Blake- > Conducting Magic > Will consume any data format > MOBIUS > > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > -- Andrea Buntz Neiman Project Manager for Software Development Equinox Open Library Initiative abnei...@equinoxoli.org 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) x5583 *https://www.equinoxOLI.org/ <https://www.equinoxOLI.org/>* _______ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Developer meeting reminder: September 12th at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific
I may just be in the wrong place, but don't see #evergreen on Libera. Is it private / do I need to be granted access? Thanks! From: Evergreen-general on behalf of Blake Graham-Henderson via Evergreen-general Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 10:40 AM To: Evergreen Development Discussion List ; Evergreen Discussion Group ; eg-newdevs Cc: Blake Graham-Henderson Subject: [Evergreen-general] Developer meeting reminder: September 12th at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific All, A friendly reminder that we'll have our Evergreen dev meeting in IRC tomorrow, September 12th at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific. Agenda: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2023-09-12 -- -Blake- Conducting Magic Will consume any data format MOBIUS ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
Re: [Evergreen-general] Community Calendar is Now Live
Thank you! This is a great resource! *Millissa Macomber, ILS Manager* Central Skagit Library District 110 W. State St. Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284 360-755-3985 www.centralskagitlibrary.org milli...@centralskagitlibrary.org On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 6:25 AM Johnathon Redmon via Evergreen-general < evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: > Thanks, I got it now. > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:36 PM Galen Charlton wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> In the lower right-hand corner of the calendar, the button that looks >> like a plus sign can be used to subscribe to the calendar from Google >> Workspace. >> >> Regards, >> >> Galen >> >> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 4:25 PM Johnathon Redmon via Evergreen-general < >> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >> >>> How do I subscribe to this to see it on my work google calendar? >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 11:04 AM Olivia Blake via Evergreen-general < >>> evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone - >>>> >>>> We're happy to announce that a unified Evergreen Community calendar is >>>> now live and viewable at: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/calendar/ >>>> >>>> Have fun attending all the meetings you never knew about! >>>> >>>> Do you have any questions? Concerns? Ideas? Please contact the Outreach >>>> Committee (evergreen-outre...@list.evergreen-ils.org). >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Olivia >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Olivia Blake (formerly Scully) >>>> she/her >>>> Help Desk Coordinator >>>> >>>> obl...@biblio.org | (203) 577-4070 x113 <203-577-4070> >>>> >>>> » Help Desk: Open or Check a Ticket <https://helpdesk.biblio.org> >>>> >>>> [image: Stylized turquoise book with blue swirl around it, above text >>>> reading Bibliomation: Libraries Sharing Computerized Services] >>>> <https://biblio.org/> >>>> >>>> *N.B.: My email address has changed from oscu...@biblio.org >>>> to obl...@biblio.org - please >>>> update your contact info for me to ensure uninterrupted communications. >>>> Thank you!* >>>> ___ >>>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Johnathon Redmon >>> Technical Services Cataloging Clerk >>> Monticello Union-Township Public Library >>> 321 W. Broadway St. >>> Monticello, IN 47960 >>> ___ >>> Evergreen-general mailing list >>> Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org >>> http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general >>> >> >> >> -- >> Galen Charlton >> Implementation and IT Manager >> Equinox Open Library Initiative >> g...@equinoxoli.org >> https://www.equinoxOLI.org >> phone: 877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) >> direct: 770-709-5581 >> <http://evergreen-ils.org> >> > > > -- > Johnathon Redmon > Technical Services Cataloging Clerk > Monticello Union-Township Public Library > 321 W. Broadway St. > Monticello, IN 47960 > ___ > Evergreen-general mailing list > Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org > http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general > ___ Evergreen-general mailing list Evergreen-general@list.evergreen-ils.org http://list.evergreen-ils.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/evergreen-general
