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[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I agree. Set aside a single FM satellite with a designated team of high power operators who hand off net control duties as the bird crosses the planet. Standard operating practice in picking out call sign fragments or by 1st letter of the suffix, and working through the pileup. The folks on

[amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB MESS

I tried my hardest all day to stay out of the "MESS" and after reading through a hundred or so messages I just cant help myself. Now this one and done "rule"... I was driving from southern Cal back to Nevada on Sat. and I didnt even think to try and make a contact mobile, glad I didnt from what

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Hi Diane, Given the chaos, it is easy to question the event. Then you get a letter such as this, and it gives you a new perspective. This is from one of our club members who I was coaching before Field Day on what birds to try, etc. I was not able to attend, but he did. Here's his report.

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

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[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

"One-and-Done" is fine for the FM satellites. The (ONE!) guy I worked on SO-50 even said "Well, that's it on this bird!", and I got him later on AO-7. We had a group of people who wanted to watch us work the satellites, so my son graciously surrendered his headphones, and several people listen

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

You know there is something here. I worked some late night on 80 meters. The noise was high and signals were few. I came across a station with a big signal, and worked him easily. Then I noticed he was working lots of folks! I suspect he had put a lot more time and energy into his 80 meter

[amsat-bb] Re: Hams Embarrass Again

>> ... and as you said, the pass was populated by well behaved operators. >> ... And thanks for doing all those presentations. One of these days we'll >> get you on a linear bird! Just yesterday a visitor to my "Work the FM Sats" left me a message" "Hey, how 'bout the OTHER sats we can work?"

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

ERP is especially fun Who's antenna gain numbers are you going to use?? Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of R Oler Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:24 PM To: pagr...@gmail.com; Amsat BB Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

On Jun 27, 2011, at 9:13 AM, wa4...@comcast.net wrote: > It took me 5 satellite passes before I could make 1 contact There were too > many ops making what sounded like HI POWER multi contacts .This should not > have happened. Maybe someone with good writting skills could send the ARRL > world

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

One and done -- It's been several years, does anyone think it has worked Maybe it is time to reconsider. I know it has convinced us to drop a satellite station from our lineup. Kevin or I just do the hand and Arrow for ten minutes get a Q and then pack it up. Joe kk0sd -Original Message

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I can absolutely claim at least 3 satellite converts as a result of the old get on the air and hammer away method, but 0 converts since the one and done era. Joe kk0sd -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Majdi S. Abbas Sent:

[amsat-bb] Hams Embarrass Again

I am so glad there are so few actually involved in this list. Fellow hams here are again becoming an embarrassment to the hobby. Whining and moaning about the lack of use of the FM birds 364 days out of the year ... Now hams are complaining that the FM birds were too busy for them to access fo

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Diane, I'm not sure if I agree, but I am very willing to discuss. In past years I have taken many flames for demonstrating satellites to scouts and other visitors at our site because it always resulted in the one contact rule being broken. This year I had the satellite gear operational f

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[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Excellent! Now let's move to the next step of business and address the true "FD Mess" that comes around every year. The focus is around the FM satellite chaos. Several of us know the when, where, and why the 1 QSO limit was imposed. What I would like to see happen to address this issue is lo

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[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds (antennas)

About the only time I need the flame thrower antenna and/or pre amp is when I'm trying to stretch the AO-7 foot print to get to OH8MBN from Seattle.  Other than that  a short yagi and low power is very adaquate for LEO's 73 Bob W7LRD Seattle - Original Message - From: "Joe Kre

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I can handle that... next year it will be "2012 AMSAT Field Day Emergency Preparedness" 73...bruce From: Tim Cunningham To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 4:49:06 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess Read the AMSAT rules. The title of the AMSAT ru

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

some one is gonna get capped! Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/27/2011 11:40 AM, Ben Napper wrote: > Uh Oh... East Coast/West Coast... FIGHT!!! :) (Just kidding) > > I managed to make my contact from the Kansas City area on the 4am

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

How would you enforce it? Robert G. Oler WB5MZO (life member AMSAT ARRL NARS) > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:48:48 -0500 > From: pagr...@gmail.com > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess > > The ARRL should impose an ERP limit for satellite contacts. That > would solve the prob

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds (antennas)

Joe, First off the FT-817 makes a nice satellite rig even though not cross-band duplex. At 04:02 PM 6/27/2011, Joe Krepps wrote: >All, > >I appreciate that this topic has been brought up (especially _after_ FD, >HiHi!!). > >If I may inject a question: for the seriously budget minded, is there an

[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

Bob. The odds of getting a "real ham" are pretty small in my view. There will be the occasional person who is either interested in the effort pre launch or gets that way due to circumstances aboard the station, but that's going to be rare particularly as long as the folks doing the flying are

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Uh Oh... East Coast/West Coast... FIGHT!!! :) (Just kidding) I managed to make my contact from the Kansas City area on the 4am pass on SO-50 (as NX0U). Still a bit chaotic, but I did 'cheat' by leaving my handheld plugged into external power to be a full 5w out. :) KC0PCQ On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 a

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Exactly. Why anyone would think that an FM bird in LEO is a viable means of emergency communications is beyond me. And then past that if it was the "only means left" why anyone would be surprised that the people needing the comm capability (such as it is) are not going to use whatever ERP it

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

OK, you want to play "Reality": IN a mass-casualty disaster, I hope satellite users will be smart enough to "Restrict satellite use for emergency traffic". Each pass will be strictly controlled by a Net Control with closed-net protocols (no calls without permission of NC). NC WILL be traffic

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

My club event is usually quite social, but, we use logging software that has the name of the operator in it, and logs over the network. So, it's always visible, who's working and who's not. I sat down on two different bands on two different occasions for about 1.5 hours each, calling CQ usi

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

At 03:51 PM 6/27/2011, Edward R. Cole wrote: >Or Lindenblads or Quadrafillers. Info is on the Amsat webpage for >these, right? > >73, Ed - KL7uW > Sorry I should have also said I have links on my webpage for the Lindenblads: http://www.kl7uw.com/sat.htm http://www.kl7uw.com/LBant.htm 73, Ed -

[amsat-bb] WD9EWK - Field Day 2011 report

Hi! Glad to see this old-school e-mail list is getting a workout today. :-) Despite all the complaining about how crowded the satellite passes were over the weekend, it was fun to get one. I try to make time to work Field Day, even if it is just the satellites, as a reason to get out of the des

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds (antennas)

All, I appreciate that this topic has been brought up (especially _after_ FD, HiHi!!). If I may inject a question: for the seriously budget minded, is there any value to building a "better antenna" (i.e. more elements for improved gain) versus adding a pre-amp? I realize a higher gain anten

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

Or Lindenblads or Quadrafillers. Info is on the Amsat webpage for these, right? 73, Ed - KL7uW At 12:09 PM 6/27/2011, wa4...@comcast.net wrote: >Build Egg beaters > >- Original Message - >From: "Jeremy Widner" >To: amsat-bb@amsat.org >Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:00:28 PM >Subject: [

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I wish it was treated like a major contest by my local club-I might attend their FD setup then. 73s John AA5jG - Original Message - From: "Joe" To: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:22 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess >I know the ARRL says it is not a contest. but if you believe th

[amsat-bb] A thought and some brags... (was Re: Re: FD Mess)

>Do we really need to write more and/or change the rules. We just need to >obey the rules we learned a long time ago. Really, aren't the rules that >govern Amateur Radio Etiquette similar to the same rules that we learned in >Kindergarten? This is what I am beginning to wonder. I think I have abo

[amsat-bb] ISS something not right

Ok something is amiss because nobody is getting in, and it sounds more like a beacon or something. If it was working at least the beacon people would be getting in, and maybe some people like me uselessly trying for a digi contact which last month was easy! I know most people are bored with t

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Read a little further down in the rules it clearly states on the single channel FM birds ONLY ONE CONTACT Period it is very clear. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-tyme.com On 6/27/2011 1:29 PM, Andreas Junge wrote: > There is no such rule in

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

You raise an interesting point and something I've wondered about for some time now. IF the sat operators are always so bent out of shape when someone actually uses the sats, then why the heck does AMSAT promote a parallel Field Day event with ARRL's Field Day?? I think it's about time for AMSA

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I know the ARRL says it is not a contest. but if you believe that I have a lovely swamp in Arizona to sell you. I know many clubs that it is a MAJOR contest for them and some it's the onluy one they enter in. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme.com http://www.idle-

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

May God Bless You, Chuck. North Shores Amateur Radio Club in San Diego won the first AMSAT contest, and by quite a margin as I remember. Bruce knows all the scores and the year. And I'm sure it is on our site... We operated a low power station with two experienced hamsat operators, with pl

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Ok, The thought there was to promote activity. OK fine, It's obvious that the FM birds do not have any sort of lack of activity. So How about for FD and the Amsat FD that the contest QSO's only count if they are made on a non FM bird? That would cure the problem of the 11 meter FM bir

[amsat-bb] Re: Off Topic AO-27/ISS

Kevin When AO-27 is in digital mode it is transmitting telemetry, I think you can download the program to decode it on the AO-27 website. I haven't heard the digital on AO-51 but it is probably APRS/Packet and who knows why unless someone decodes it, there was a lot of packet on HO-68 when it

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds (antennas)

> My preference is to build something Hi Jeremy ! Yesterday I finished constructing my new antenna for 70cm, a 16 elements DK7ZB. My Requirements: - Needs to work for EME at 432 MHz (15.5 dBd / 16 elements has been used successfully by others) - Needs to work for satellite communication (n

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 02:42:19PM -0700, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: ... > > Sure, the person operating the radio is trying to collect the > bonus points for their operation. > > But most Field Day operations are a *group* effort. Many of > the hams present may never have operated a sat

[amsat-bb] A Big Thank You for your care of the crippled bird!

Yes, FD is always a mess. Usually a good mess of food, friends, bugs, and all. We made a satellite contact through AO-51 running 5-10 watts with an Arrow antenna. We had quite the audience as everyone wanted to see a satellite contact made and the audience was also curious why it took 4 of u

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Do we really need to write more and/or change the rules. We just need to obey the rules we learned a long time ago. Really, aren't the rules that govern Amateur Radio Etiquette similar to the same rules that we learned in Kindergarten? "These are the things I learned: Share everything. P

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

True but Fd is an ARRL event and has nowt to do with AMSAT. On 27/06/11 22:49, Tim Cunningham wrote: > Read the AMSAT rules. The title of the AMSAT rules IS clear when you read > the title as "2011 AMSAT Field Day Competition ". > > > Tim - N8DEU ___ Se

[amsat-bb] Field Day Recordings Posted

Field Day recordings for AO-51, AO-27 and SO-50 are on my website. The late night-early morning passes were not crowded and could have provided opportunities for those trying to make the 100 point bonus. The recordings were made from my home station on autopilot. Polarity was fixed on left-hand c

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Read the AMSAT rules. The title of the AMSAT rules IS clear when you read the title as "2011 AMSAT Field Day Competition ". Tim - N8DEU - Original Message - From: "John Geiger" To: "STeve Andre'" Cc: Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess Of course it

[amsat-bb] Re: Off Topic AO-27/ISS

That's 1200 baud AFSK telemetry. See for a link to download the telemetry-gathering program & instructions on how to record & submit your telemetry captures. George, KA3HSW - Original Message > From: Kevin Deane > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > S

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 05:18:54PM -0400, Diane Bruce wrote: > Now hear me out before you hit that reply key. Field day operators > are interested in those bonus points, we (amsat) are interested in > promoting amateur radio sat operations. How many of these field day > operations actually result i

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I am always amused by FD on the FM birds, and even more so the post-action comments that: 1) Don't understand what 2600 FM carriers on the input of an FM repeater does 2) Think that the other 2599 are LIDS and KIDS and are abusing the system 3) But they are doing it right by calling CQ with 5 watt

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

The intent of the rule was to reduce the congestion on the FM satellites by getting stations OFF them after making their one QSO, thereby giving more stations the opportunity to make a QSO. So the way I interpret it, and the way I've operated since the rule was adopted (and I was one of those w

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

At 07:13 AM 6/27/2011, wa4...@comcast.net wrote: >It took me 5 satellite passes before I could make 1 contact There >were too many ops making what sounded like HI POWER multi contacts >.This should not have happened. Maybe someone with good writting >skills could send the ARRL world above 50 an

[amsat-bb] Off Topic AO-27/ISS

When AO-27 goes in digital mode what is that D-Star??? I take it if I had that equipment would I be able to communicate with people or is that the sats time for basic telemetry/control operator stuff? Also I have been hearing packet on AO-51, does someone expect a response? I am tempted to ha

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 03:13:34PM +, wa4...@comcast.net wrote: > It took me 5 satellite passes before I could make 1 contact There were too > many ops making what sounded like HI POWER multi contacts .This should not > have happened. Maybe someone with good writting skills could send the ARR

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

FD is a mess every year. No matter what bird(s) you try. Most of the FD stations have no clue about satellites, they just get the idea they need to make 1 satellite contact or as many as they can. They don't know about all the rules particular to AMSAT, and they dont' care. They ask somebo

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

>Note that it says "additional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit ***unless >prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1*** " (emphasis mine), which you conveniently >omitted. Rule 7.3.7.1 says "Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO >on any single channel FM satellite." >So yes, there IS such a rule.

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

Jeremy First thing MAKE SURE YOU CAN HEAR THE BIRDS all to often ops will call cq ,hell whistle and all sorts of noise making. You can hit the birds with 1 watt but if you cant hear it we can still hear you. A 70cm preamp with t/r would be a good investment Then look at KO4MA cheap yagis H

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[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

Jeremy give VO-52 a change, great SAT 73 Jan PE0SAT On Mon, June 27, 2011 22:15, Jeremy Widner wrote: > I forgot one more question. What bird would be the best to get started on > with SSB? > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:09 PM, wrote: > >> Build Egg beaters >> >> - Original Message -

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

On 6/27/2011 4:30 PM, Jeremy Widner wrote: > I am going to assume my IC-706 should work with the exception of the > 70cm birds correct? That is what is mounted in the jeep and a little > easier to work with than the 2000. > The 706 will receive VO-52 and AO-7 just fine. Remember AO-7 alternates

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

I am going to assume my IC-706 should work with the exception of the 70cm birds correct? That is what is mounted in the jeep and a little easier to work with than the 2000. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner < glasbren...@mindspring.com> wrote: > The first and smallest step woul

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:48:48 -0500 Patrick Green wrote: > The ARRL should impose an ERP limit for satellite contacts. That > would solve the problem. I don't see how running amplifiers on FD is > in the spirit of what FD is all about. I've made contacts using 50 mw > so why do stations use 100

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

The first and smallest step would be to take that Arrow, hook it to your 2000 on a picnic table or tailgate, and start listening to passes. That will copy all of the transponder satellites. Tune around, listen, and then work on making a QSO or two. The rest will go pretty naturally. 73, Drew KO

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

Hi Jeremy, Have a look at the following link: http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/?Satellite:Help maybe this will give you the information you're looking for. 73 Jan PE0SAT On Mon, June 27, 2011 22:00, Jeremy Widner wrote: > I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow > antenn

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

I forgot one more question. What bird would be the best to get started on with SSB? On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:09 PM, wrote: > Build Egg beaters > > - Original Message - > From: "Jeremy Widner" > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:00:28 PM > Subject: [amsat-bb] How

[amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds

Build Egg beaters - Original Message - From: "Jeremy Widner" To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:00:28 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] How to get started on SSB birds I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow antennas. I am ready to start messing

[amsat-bb] How to get started on SSB birds

I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow antennas. I am ready to start messing with the other birds. I have a Kenwood TS-2000 for a rig. I do NOT currently have a tower up. I was wondering antenna suggestions you guys might have to jump into the ssb birds without

[amsat-bb] Field Day

My take on the field day sats: Why not some one on the East Coast and some one on the West Coast volunteer to operate as a net . That way there would not be the 2 way confusion . A net control could confirm the contacts much faster and get many more contacts. Just a thought. Jerry WB5LHD _

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Wow, This certainly brought about heavy criticism from the satellite community. I for one encourage this discussion. It seems to break down to having a satellite that is a linear bird and wide enough to let everyone find a good spot and communicate- something like the HF bands provided this past

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

That is a good point. I am sure that if/when the big one hits and we need to pass emergency communications, we will have to do it under less than optimal conditions or "rules" including on the satellites. When such an occassion occurs, I doubt everyone will be limiting themselves to 5 watts or le

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Me, I'm recovering from bad sunburn. I look like a lobster ready for dinner... --STeve Andre' wb8wsf en72 On 06/27/11 15:40, Bob- W7LRD wrote: > > After all the hoopala settles. When/where else can you play with > radios, go camping, go potty in the woods, get bug bites, have a good > time

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

After all the hoopala settles.  When/where else can you play with radios, go camping, go potty in the woods, get bug bites, have a good time with friends, and figure how all this stuff works.  Because,  just maybe, one day you'll have to do it for real! still scratching bites 73 Bob W7LRD

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Of course it isn't a contest. The best evidence is that they print the scores in QST! 73s John AA5JG On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:09 PM, STeve Andre' wrote: > Well, is IS a contest, no matter what the ARRL says. People see it as > such. > My first FD before I was a ham, looked like a contest to

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

The ARRL doesn't care! According to them, "Field Day is not a contest; no certificates are awarded" and "ARRL Field Day is not a fully adjudicated contest, which explains much of its popularity" So, no awards, no disqualifications. Just posting your scores on the wall with nothing to back it

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Well, is IS a contest, no matter what the ARRL says. People see it as such. My first FD before I was a ham, looked like a contest to me and it was only later, reading all the ARRL books I could get ahold of that I realized it really wasn't one. All contests where you go outside are test runs for

[amsat-bb] Linear Transponder on the ISS.

This is such an obvious question that I think there must be a reason it has not been done.  I would like someone to explain why it is not possible or probable.  I am not seeking to start a flame war. Why can't we put a SSB/CW linear transponder on the ISS?  It could run whenever the ISS FM sta

[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

I can only imagine a ham nut messing around on 20cw on the other side of the planet doing 17,000mph.  The mind wanders! 73 Bob W7LRD - Original Message - From: "R Oler" To: w7...@comcast.net, pisym...@gmail.com Cc: "Amsat BB" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:44:21 AM Subjec

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

The ARRL should impose an ERP limit for satellite contacts. That would solve the problem. I don't see how running amplifiers on FD is in the spirit of what FD is all about. I've made contacts using 50 mw so why do stations use 100+ watts *before* the antenna.. I wouldn't want my kids playing ar

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Note that it says "additional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit ***unless prohibited under Rule 7.3.7.1*** " (emphasis mine), which you conveniently omitted. Rule 7.3.7.1 says "Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite." So yes, there IS such a rule.

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

There is no such rule in the FD that limits you to one Satellite contact. You need AT LEAST one for the 100 bonus points: >From the FD rules (2011): 7.3.7. Satellite QSO: 100 bonus points for successfully completing at least one QSO via an amateur radio satellite during the Field Day period. "G

[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!

I have to agree with Patrick on this one. We also checked the frequencies up and down from the center of the passbands and there was little activity. Just spread out. It was wonderful to see that there was so much activity. As for the FM birds - it is what it is. One frequency with capture effec

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

A bigger FD problem is that FD is advertised as a chance to demonstrate your emergency comms ability to Joe Public. FD is NOT a contest so why are points and bonuses involved at all? On 27/06/11 19:13, Bill Acito W1PA wrote: > I think we have to let go of the mantra that “any use of the bandwidt

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But is seems that this is "only" a problem on the FM birds. Maybe it's past time to not build any more FM satellites and only the likes of AO-40. I have given up on the FM birds because it seems that (using the words of the late W2OY) every kid lid and space cad

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

I did not participate in FD this year, but I have certainly heard my share of them in recent years. I think we have to let go of the mantra that “any use of the bandwidth is good use” with respect to “encouraging more satellite activity”. Wasn’t that the original intent of the “100 point bonus

[amsat-bb] Re: FD- 2011

Which is precisely why the only time I unplugged the headphones and let visitors hear what was going on was during linear satellite passes, where things were much more civilized. George, KA3HSW - Original Message > From: Peter Portanova > To: AMSAT-BB@amsat.org > Sent: Mon, June 2

[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

This may open a can of worms-However,  I'd like to see a "real" ham on the ISS.  We all know what that means.  Granted they all take the tech license to be "official" amateur radio operators.  However we don't see the "passion" in the belly to get on the air.  There have been a few up there th

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Contacts During Field Day

I made my one contact on a ssb satellite with a 910/arrow.  There was as "AMSAT" parallel fd "contest".  I cho se to let the gathering throng just listen to several ssb passes and they took turns turning the arrow.  They seemed amazed at listening to the process as opposed to being part of it.

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Contacts During Field Day

unless you are submitting for amsat field day which many of the amsat members do. then you want as many contacts on non-fm satellites as you can get including cw and digital. 73...bruce From: Carl Rimmer W8KRF To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011

[amsat-bb] Multiple FM satellite QSOs in Field Day (was Re: Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!)

Hi! I've seen comments like this from several on the list regarding Field Day: > REALLY disappointed at the number of stations making multiple contacts on > the FM birds...  what these people don't seem to realize is that every extra > contact they make deprives another station of the opportunity

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

About 50 years ago during the SSB wars, Dubya TOO Ole Yankee, W2OY, was notorious for calling, *"CQ CQ, don't want any KIDS, LIDS or BUS PATROLS, just good clean A M signals!" * This describes at least three groups in ham radio today, not just on HF. Kids *having fun* LIDS *being LIDS* Bus

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Guys, this seems simple to fix. The arrl gets the logs of everyone. How hard is it to build a table of the sat contacts and check who gets more than the allowed one contact? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. No

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Contacts During Field Day

Agree, The rules state, 7.3.7.1 Stations are limited to one (1) completed QSO on any single channel FM satellite. So maybe the ARRL dhould DQ these people when they submit their logs? I hope so. Granted this doesn't stop someone operating just to make contacts and don't send in their logs f

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

So if there are three stations operating, only two can make a contact because the once two make contact with each other neither can contact the third. John WA4WDL -- From: "Tom Schaefer, NY4I" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:36 AM To: Cc: "AMSAT"

[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

True and isn't that actually breaking a FCC rule law also, ya know we must only run the minimum power needed to maintain the contact? being 50 DB stronger than any other signal on the bird is clearly breaking a federal law. rule. Joe WB9SBD The Original Rolling Ball Clock Idle Tyme Idle-Tyme

[amsat-bb] FD- 2011

Hello All, I too was disappointed by the pileups on all the satellites, our FD location, W2GSB,is part of our Town Hall facility, it is a great location for the public to experience what we do as amateur radio operators. However it is a very poor location for satellite activity, too much RF le

[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!

On 27 Jun 2011 at 0:01, George Henry wrote: Date sent: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:01:28 -0500 From: George Henry Subject:[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop! To: amsat bb > I actually made most of our (W9CCU) contacts on FO-29 this year,

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Contacts During Field Day

Carl, > I have a comment regarding FD satellite contacts.  If I remember > correctly, it has been established that a station only make one (1) > satellite contact during the FD period so everyone can have a chance. > Making a contact or contacts on each of the available satellites during > each of

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Contacts During Field Day

BUT...you can still only take credit for one 100 point contact. *Carl W8KRF * On 6/27/2011 12:10 PM, kq...@verizon.net wrote: > Only on the FM satellites. > The linear transponder satellites can be used to make as many contacts > as you can. > > Jim KQ6EA ___

[amsat-bb] Re: Field Day Dual-Hop!

Joe, > I feel the ideal would be the one QSO per station during FD. As it is > intended to be.  Maybe have an OO monitor passes like when FD is > happening and send out pink slips to all that do not abide by the one > QSO policy during FD? Other than possibly having the OO's cite the operator for

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