[amsat-bb] Re: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread ka9qjg
What is UGLY Is that some keep reposting it .Some has never seen it . Everyone will have a bad hair day and say or write something they wish they could take back , I tell My Grandkids at last count 18 and 8 Great that when they call their parents names They will be forgiven but Not forgotten

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-27 status

2011-12-03 Thread Greg D.
Thanks for the update, George. One note... The Epoch.txt file is named in all upper case on the website, while the program expects it to have only an initial capital "E". Some systems (e.g. Linux) are sensitive to this, and can't find the file. A simple rename, and all is well. Greg KO6TH

[amsat-bb] Re: ME

2011-12-03 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 20:23:28 -0800, Clint Bradford wrote: >>> ... Rule #1 of email ... > >No - the first "rule" of email is to respect the intent of the writer - and >not post publicly what was intended as a private communication. > >Not sure of one's intent? ASK before posting elsewhere. > >Anyt

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread Art McBride
Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6681 (20111203) __ The

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread Roger
I don't think that it is appropriate language or a civil response. The author should be moderated. Roger WA1KAT On 12/3/2011 2:26 PM, andy thomas wrote: I don't think this is the spirit of informed and reasonable debate. 73 de andy g0sfj - Forwarded Message - From: Kevin Deane To:

[amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
> BTW, it's impossible to access VO-52 in FM with a 5 watt HT > and arrow antennas because for a decent QSO on CW and SSB > we need at least 50 watt and a 13 dBi 70 cm antenna. ??? I don't have a 70cm antenna with that much gain. I currently use an Elk log periodic, started working SSB via satell

[amsat-bb] Re: ME

2011-12-03 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... Rule #1 of email ... No - the first "rule" of email is to respect the intent of the writer - and not post publicly what was intended as a private communication. Not sure of one's intent? ASK before posting elsewhere. Anything less is quite disrespectful ... There is no "defense" for such

[amsat-bb] thanks for QSOs on Friday and Saturday

2011-12-03 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi! After a brief pause in my satellite operating (real life gets in the way, from time to time), I was able to get on the air for some passes Friday and today. Thanks for all the QSOs when I was out at the hamfest in Mesa AZ this morning, and yesterday while on a quick road trip to southern Ariz

[amsat-bb] Re: Remote polarity / preamp switching

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message - From: "Dominic Hawken" To: Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:54 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Remote polarity / preamp switching I currently have two runs of coax from the shack up to the roof, each connected to smallish dual band 2/70 yagis, horizontally polarised, on an

[amsat-bb] AO-27 status

2011-12-03 Thread George Henry
Today I received the latest TOPR and EPOCH files for AO-27 from Mike Wyrick, NU3C, and have uploaded them to the AO-27 Satellite Scheduler website so that users of the Java scheduler program can update their files. Simply download them to the same folder that the Scheduler resides in. DO NOT u

[amsat-bb] ANS-338 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins

2011-12-03 Thread Lee McLamb
AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-338 ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communic

[amsat-bb] HR3288 - end of the ITAR nightmare?

2011-12-03 Thread Daniel Schultz
There is a bill before the US House of Representatives that would give the President authority to remove communications satellites and related components from the Munitions List. This would free up commercial and amateur satellite builders to once again interact with our foreign colleagues. ITAR r

[amsat-bb] Remote polarity / preamp switching

2011-12-03 Thread Dominic Hawken
I currently have two runs of coax from the shack up to the roof, each connected to smallish dual band 2/70 yagis, horizontally polarised, on an az/el rotator. One's connected to the 70cm output of my FT847, and the other to the 2m output. I'd like to upgrade to cross-polarised beams for 2 and 70

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:01 AM 12/4/2011, Nitin Muttin wrote: Friends, Thank you all for your comments and understanding. Please do not use FM on VO-52. There are very few (less than 3-5 radio hams in India who work thru VO-52 on FM due to the lack of all mode 2 meter and 70 cms radios and hence the exception

[amsat-bb] Re: ME

2011-12-03 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 14:50:17 -0800, Kevin Deane wrote: >How dare you post my personal email on this BB! By doing so you have crossed >any line I may have ever even thought about so good job there buddy. Rule #1 of email: Never type anything in email to anyone that you would not want to become pu

[amsat-bb] Re: ME

2011-12-03 Thread John Becker
Excuse me but it's on the web for anyone to find. But you are right By now every spamer has it. At 04:50 PM 12/3/2011, you wrote: >How dare you post my personal email on this BB! By doing so you have crossed >any line I may have ever even thought about so good job there buddy. > >Kevin >KF7M

[amsat-bb] ME

2011-12-03 Thread Kevin Deane
How dare you post my personal email on this BB! By doing so you have crossed any line I may have ever even thought about so good job there buddy. Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions express

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread Dave Webb KB1PVH
Not that I am sticking up for either one, but I do believe that was a PRIVATE email that he (KF7MYK) had sent to G0SFJ and he decided to bring it to the BB. What is private should stay that way, just my thought. Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X _

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread MSG Craig R Gagner
Well if you look at the message it was not sent to the list, it was forwarded by the recipient. Not knowing if there were any additional private e-mails between the two is something to consider. This seems to be a really hot topic, its not the end of the world. Donate to the FOX-1 and FOX-2 pr

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread Robert McGwier
While I completely agree that KF7MYK has acted badly, so has Thomas (to a lesser degree in my opinion). He sent a personal, private email to the group: VERY bad netiquette. A complaint about being in receipt of abusive email to the group without quoting it and sending the private email to the g

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread George and Cheryl Abbott
I agree,he should keep politicks out of it. -Original Message- From: B.P. Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:48 PM To: Bruce ; amsat-bb Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please I can only hope that the moderator of this group will immediately terminate Kevin KF7MYK from this g

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread B.P.
I can only hope that the moderator of this group will immediately terminate Kevin KF7MYK from this group.  That sort of language is totally uncalled for in this group. You Kevin are a disgrace to the rest of us Americans and Ham operators around the world.   Bruce 

[amsat-bb] Working SO-50

2011-12-03 Thread Ib Christoffersen
Working SO-50. I think it is time to look at how one can operate over SO-50 and the problems that can be encountered. First the normal and nominal data: Uplink is at 145.850 MHz. Downlink at 436.795 MHz. If it is not ON - use 74.4 Hz CTCSS tone to activate the transmitter for 10 seconds to hav

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread Bruce
ones intelligence, temperment and social graces are only outshined by their chioice of words. 73...bruce Sent from my iPhone - Forwarded Message - From: Kevin Deane To: andythomasm...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 19:15 Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Stop flaming please sh

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message - From: "Nitin Muttin" To: Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:01 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation Friends, Thank you all for your comments and understanding. Please do not use FM on VO-52. There are very few (less than 3-5 radio hams in India who work th

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread ryan woods
Nice... Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsa

[amsat-bb] Fw: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread andy thomas
I don't think this is the spirit of informed and reasonable debate.   73 de andy g0sfj - Forwarded Message - From: Kevin Deane To: andythomasm...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 19:15 Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Stop flaming please shut the fuck up dumbass, there will be nobod

[amsat-bb] Re: Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread ryan woods
What do you mean so-50 is unpredictable? Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: ht

[amsat-bb] Famous Headline in "The Times" of England

2011-12-03 Thread andy thomas
The famous headline, in an apocryphal story, was "Small Earthquake in Chile: Not Many Dead". With due respect to our fellow hams in CE it meant (at that unenlightened time) that there had been a sesismic shift that, although important to those above it, perhaps did not merit further discussion i

[amsat-bb] heres how i c it...

2011-12-03 Thread paul robinson
Frank you are correct.no point going on about it lets all work together and get some new birds in orbit,we dont just need fm but ssb as well and some heo's would be even better,sooner we get them the sooner we can enjoy this part of the hobby againits just sad that  a 30+ year old bird i

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread andy thomas
Don't be so xxx rude. I do not operate on vo52 in FM and never have. From: i8cvs To: andy thomas ; amsat Sent: Saturday, 3 December 2011, 17:39 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: VO52 and QRP FM - Original Message - From: "andy thomas" To: "amsat" Sent: Sa

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message - From: "andy thomas" To: "amsat" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: VO52 and QRP FM I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent in cw too...but it's d

[amsat-bb] here's how i see it!

2011-12-03 Thread K4FEG
In an attempt to be as non-partisan as possible here is how I see it: Lets not live in the past. There are viable projects out there that need our IMMEDIATE ATTENTION. No short term action at this time to one satellite or another will provide the Amateur community with a long term option for

[amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
Hi, WA4HFN Well sayd.I agree with you ! CW and SSB is just what we have to do on VO-52 BTW, it's impossible to access VO-52 in FM with a 5 watt HT and arrow antennas because for a decent QSO on CW and SSB we need at least 50 watt and a 13 dBi 70 cm antenna. We, operators of VO-52 li

[amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
Hi Craig, W1MSG Well sayd ...I agree with you ! CW and SSB is just what we have to do on VO-52 BTW, it's impossible to access VO-52 in FM with a 5 watt HT and arrow antennas because for a decent QSO in CW and SSB we need at least 50 watt and a 13 dBi 70 cm antenna. We, operators of V

[amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message - From: "andy thomas" To: "amsat" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 2:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] VO52 and QRP FM This is an important debate in difficult times. I am with G7HIA on this one, namely that *** if there is no damage to the satellite *** a QRP (below 5w hand

[amsat-bb] Re: Where to donate

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
- Original Message - From: "Bob- W7LRD" To: Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Where to donate > > > I realized my monthly donation to AMSAT had stopped a short time ago. Wanting to re initiate it I am debating going with Fox vs P3E from our DL friends. The DL

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread i8cvs
Hi Edgar, DF2MZ Well sayd ! I agree with you 73" de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: "DF2MZ" To: Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 10:38 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation > Don't even think about it! It is EXTREMELY bad practice using FM on a > linear transponde

[amsat-bb] Stop flaming please

2011-12-03 Thread andy thomas
I don't see why someone can't make a suggestion about a qrp experiment without being flamed about being incompetent, inadequate,  financially poor or in some other way a lesser member of the -bb. You guys ought to learn a little more tolerance.   Fact #1 is, ao-51 is dead and we don't have anyth

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread John Becker
At 03:38 AM 12/3/2011, you wrote: >Don't even think about it! It is EXTREMELY bad practice using FM on a linear >transponder. It may consume more than 10 times the bandwidt of SSB/CW. Not to mention the resource (battery power) that FM needs. John, W0JAB __

[amsat-bb] Re: Fw: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread DF2MZ
Would you accept somebody using FM on the 80m band just because he finds SSB too expensive or too difficult to operate? Am 03.12.2011 15:41, schrieb andy thomas: I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation???

2011-12-03 Thread g0mrf
Neither do you. Read, research absorb, consider and learn. - Then speak David G0MRF Whomever said they were promoting this kind of operation certainly did not know what the hell they were talking about. Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@am

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread James Duffey
While I understand the motives of AMSAT-India in experimenting with FM on a linear transponder to provide an avenue for FM only equiped VU hams to get on the sats, I have significant concerns that it will be counterproductive to satellite operator growth in the long run. While the FM-sats are go

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread Nitin Muttin
Friends,   Thank you all for your comments and understanding. Please do not use FM on VO-52. There are very few (less than 3-5 radio hams in India who work thru VO-52 on FM due to the lack of all mode 2 meter and 70 cms radios and hence the exception) who use FM when VO-52 is over India.   73'

[amsat-bb] Fw: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread andy thomas
I have expanded capabilities. I have an ICOM IC910 with the L band added module and last operated on vo-52 in usb, and I am fluent in cw too...but it's difficult to carry this kit by hand (hi!) so I do qrp with an Arrow as well, from all over Europe.   And I haven't been able to get into SO-50

[amsat-bb] Fwd: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread wa4hfn
- Forwarded Message - From: wa4...@comcast.net To: "John Heath" Cc: "John AJ4AT" Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 8:02:35 AM Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] VO-52 FM Operation There are 2 FM birds use them and if you need to buy some used ssb equipment do it dont trash a good SSB bird . The h

[amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread Craig R Gagner
I have to agree with Edgar, expand your capabilities and use it as designed SSB or CW. There are two other FM birds out there and that’s where the FM should stay .. Craig W1MSG -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of andy thom

[amsat-bb] Re: Where to donate

2011-12-03 Thread Burns Fisher
>I realized my monthly donation to AMSAT ?had stopped a short time ago.? Wanting to re initiate it I am debating going with Fox vs P3E from our DL friends.? The DL version is obviously the coolest of the two, though Fox would probably more >immediately economically feasible.? Retired on a fixed inc

[amsat-bb] VO52 and QRP FM

2011-12-03 Thread andy thomas
This is an important debate in difficult times.   I am with G7HIA on this one, namely that *** if there is no damage to the satellite *** a QRP (below 5w handy) operation might be considered to be feasible on a centre frequency.   It is not our bird to give permission. There are of course two tr

[amsat-bb] Re: FASTRAC 1 Digipeating?

2011-12-03 Thread Keith O'Brien
Clayton Coleman W5PFG wrote: Anyone else try to send packets via FASTRAC 1 on the most recent two passes late evening over North America?  I only received the CW beacon and one burst of telemetry on each of the two passes over East Texas. I did notice on the first pass that my Keplerian elements

[amsat-bb] Re: VO-52 FM Operation

2011-12-03 Thread DF2MZ
Don't even think about it! It is EXTREMELY bad practice using FM on a linear transponder. It may consume more than 10 times the bandwidt of SSB/CW. You do have a hobby. Adapt to the situation. Learn something new. Extend your capabilities. SSB/CW and doppler correction are the state of the art

[amsat-bb] Re: FASTRAC 1 Digipeating?

2011-12-03 Thread Mike Rupprecht
Hi Clayton, you received an CW beacon from FAST1 ??? I was also not able to get an successfully digipeated packet over FAST1. 73 Mike DK3WN -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Clayton Coleman W5PFG Gesendet: Samst

[amsat-bb] Where to donate

2011-12-03 Thread Bob- W7LRD
I realized my monthly donation to AMSAT  had stopped a short time ago.  Wanting to re initiate it I am debating going with Fox vs P3E from our DL friends.  The DL version is obviously the coolest of the two, though Fox would probably more immediately economically feasible.  Retired on a fixed