I just broke my Delta-echo-lima-echo-tango-echo key
73 Bob W7LRD
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From: "Roger Kolakowski"
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:52:51 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITU Phonetics - Kilo
Until they start "correcting" name
Until they start "correcting" names and Bombay becomes Mumbai and Peking
becomes Beijing...
Roger
WA1KAT
On 4/10/2011 6:57 PM, Glen Zook wrote:
> If you want to get technical, geographic names has been a "standard" much
> longer than the ICAO phonetics. However, it is fine with me if you insis
My call starts Kilo Kilo Zero --- It never gets logged correctly, it always
gets logged as Kilo Zero. Kilowatt Kilowatt Zero gets logged right almost
every-time. I have come to accept it.
Sierra works about 60 % -- Sugar works around 95 % I have learned to use
what works.
73,
Joe kk0sd
Since MOST of us aren't civil aviators, I suggest we use the ITU Phonetic
alphabet like everybody else does. It's the same for those of you that
don't know that or what ICAO stands for.
Juliet Echo Foxtrot Foxtrot -- Kilo Echo Seven Alpha Charlie Yankee
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Our club at Field day WB9FDZ, was always known as
Whiskey Bravo Nine Field Day Zombies. Especially at 3 am on a dead 75
meters!
Joe WB9SBD
W B 9 Silent But Deadly!
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
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On 4/10/2011 5:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> King Kong
With inflation, probably more like 50 cents!
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Sun, 4/10/11, Bruce wrote:
King Kong Five Dream On
just had to add my two cents worth as no one wanted to give me a penny for my
thoughts.
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sooner!
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> Website: http://k9sth.com
>
>
> --- On Sun, 4/10/11, John Becker wrote:
>
>> From: John Becker
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITU Phonetics - Kilo
>> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
>> Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 4:43 PM
>> At 02:34 PM
Aardvark Aardvark Fife Pneumonia Knight :O)
73
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Bruce"
To: "amsat-bb"
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 5:33 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITU Phonetics - Kilo
> King Kong Five Dream On
>
> just had to add my two cents worth
use I work the DX MUCH sooner!
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Sun, 4/10/11, John Becker wrote:
> From: John Becker
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITU Phonetics - Kilo
> To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
> Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 4:43 PM
> At 02:34 PM 4/10/2011, you wrot
I have no problems figuring out most adhoc phonetic alphabets, but when people
use two separate words to represent one letter I find it distracting and
confusing. I doubt I'm the only person who suffers from this.
(In case any one is wondering, yes I was trained in the use of the icao
phoneti
King Kong Five Dream On
just had to add my two cents worth as no one wanted to give me a penny for my
thoughts.
73...bruce
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Hi!
> Again there is nothing wrong with the standard
>
> I for one will never use your "de facto" standard when there is already one
> that has been in use for years and years and years.
What many are saying, and I agree with in a couple of situations,
is that sometimes the standard ICAO/NATO pho
Nope that is Jethro Bodine phonetics and knot stands for zero!! ;-)
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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Bob K0NR - email list
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 2:18 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ITU Phonetics
At 02:34 PM 4/10/2011, you wrote:
>Again, geographical names have become the defacto "standard" where working DX
>is concerned.
So we are having a QSO and I tell you my QTH is Louisiana, Missouri
and you then think to yourself "say what" followed be "does not compute"
Look it up at QRZ dot com.
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:34:48 -0700 (PDT), Glen Zook wrote:
>That is why geographical names work better when working DX. For stateside
>use, at least in my opinion, the ICAO phonetics are definitely recommended.
I've had this happen to me enough to be more than just coincidence. Repeating
my cal
The problem is that the "standard" ICAO phonetics are problematic under certain
circumstances. In the military world the operators are specially trained to
use ICAO phonetics including the "preferred" way to pronounce the words.
Unfortunately, this just doesn't exist in the amateur radio world
At 10:29 AM 4/10/2011, John Becker wrote:
>There is a "STANDARD" why not use it???
>(that was a question)
>
>My navy training just rubs me the wrong way
>when I hear some of the "words" being used
>by some.
>
>Could be the "reason" your call went unanswered.
>
>John, W0JAB
>
Actually am surprised
Really? I thought the phonetic for K was "knot". :-)
Bob K0NR
On 4/10/2011 10:19 AM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> ... The use of Kilowatt as a phonetic is a pet peeve ...
> Not an ITU-approved term. "K" is "kilo."
>
> SOURCE: ARRL Handy Ops Guide's ITU Phonetics:
> http://web.me.com/clintbradford/W
There is a "STANDARD" why not use it???
(that was a question)
My navy training just rubs me the wrong way
when I hear some of the "words" being used
by some.
Could be the "reason" your call went unanswered.
John, W0JAB
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I agree that particular phonetics are appropriate for certain situations.
"Funny phonetics" are best left for FM repeater operations and other certain
contacts where everyone knows each other.
In the world of DXing geographical names have become the defacto standard
because the ICAO phonetics
I don't get confused, I just get so I don't care.
Joe WB9SBD
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
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On 4/10/2011 12:26 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> ... "Whiskey" confuses me ...
> It's usually rum in my pina coladas that confuses me ...
>
> Clint
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Some of us have our ears ready for the "standard" phonetics
when some comes out with "mississippi whiskey runner" for
MWR I got to stop and think "what did he just say"
John, W0JAB
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>> ... "Whiskey" confuses me ...
It's usually rum in my pina coladas that confuses me ...
Clint
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I respect most everyone here's opinions, Glen. But I think we have to agree
that if could at least get folks to RECOGNIZE that there are "formal" phonetics
that should be used while working the satellites - and the use of them - if
preferable to me announcing, for example, that I am working from
"Whiskey" confuses me ;-))
Chuck, Kilo Mike Niner Uniform
- Original Message -
From: "Clint Bradford"
To: "AMSAT BB"
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:19
Subject: [amsat-bb] ITU Phonetics - Kilo
>>> ... The use of Kilowatt as a phonetic is a pet peeve ...
>
> Not an ITU-approved term. "
Neither are geographic names recommended by the ITU. However, geographic names
do work considerably better under certain conditions.
Had the FCC required that the ICAO phonetics be used such would be stated in 47
CFR Part 97. However, the identification procedures for phone operation are
"spe
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