[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Tony Langdon
At 11:57 AM 11/30/2011, Lowell White wrote: Please enlighten me if indeed there might be a way to get something up (and to stay up) more economically. Well, a bit of physics here. To get from the Earth's surface to LEO requires 10 km/S of delta-V. Even if you could get a payload to

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 30/11/11 01:46, Andy Kellner wrote: Hmm, unlikely I would say: A typical WX ballon goes up to about 30 km, maybe 50 km if you get a high performance one. You know, from 50km up you can see a fair chunk of the earth. While it might not be as cool as flying a satellite, a balloon-lofted

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Trevor .
--- On Wed, 30/11/11, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net wrote: You know, from 50km up you can see a fair chunk of the earth.  While it might not be as cool as flying a satellite, a balloon-lofted repeater could be quite good fun.  What next, though?  Well, maybe a UAV-lofted repeater.  I

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Diane Bruce
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 08:20:11PM +1100, Tony Langdon wrote: At 11:57 AM 11/30/2011, Lowell White wrote: Please enlighten me if indeed there might be a way to get something up (and to stay up) more economically. Well, a bit of physics here. To get from the Earth's surface to LEO

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Diane Bruce
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:40:44AM +, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On 30/11/11 01:46, Andy Kellner wrote: Hmm, unlikely I would say: A typical WX ballon goes up to about 30 km, maybe 50 km if you get a high performance one. You know, from 50km up you can see a fair chunk of the earth.

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On 30/11/11 13:34, Trevor . wrote: Current research is based on platforms between 17 and 22 km high. At that height they could provide coverage over a radius of up to 500 km. Roughly equivalent to NVIS HF communications, then. In the UK we have the drawback that aeronautical amateur radio

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Tejera
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire On 30/11/11 01:46, Andy Kellner wrote: Hmm, unlikely I would say: A typical WX ballon goes up to about 30 km, maybe 50 km if you get a high performance one. You know, from 50km up you can see a fair chunk of the earth. While it might not be as cool

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Hi! There are at least two groups that  know of that launch High altitude balloons with amateur payloads. I just joined one: Arizona Near Space Research. http://www.ansr.org/ The other s in Colorado, not sure of the organization's name though. Edge of Space Sciences. http://www.eoss.org/

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Tejera
...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:55 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire Hi! There are at least two groups that  know of that launch High altitude balloons with amateur payloads. I just joined one: Arizona

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:19 AM 12/1/2011, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On 30/11/11 13:34, Trevor . wrote: Current research is based on platforms between 17 and 22 km high. At that height they could provide coverage over a radius of up to 500 km. Roughly equivalent to NVIS HF communications, then. One of those

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-30 Thread Tony Langdon
At 02:28 AM 12/1/2011, Rick Tejera wrote: Gordon, There are at least two groups that know of that launch High altitude balloons with amateur payloads. I just joined one: Arizona Near Space Research. http://www.ansr.org/ High altitude balloons are fun. There's a group here that launches

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread John Floyd
You may be making a joke but if we call it Proof of concept mission for the usage of COTS components we might get a huge grant to make it happen. It reminds me of the Surrey Android phone in space. I wonder what if that worked? From:

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Ng, Peter
yes, thanks to all control operators here and abroad, but especially those from the AMSAT-NA team who worked so hard in keeping AO-51 on for as long as it has! I've made my first contact (WD9EWK) on AO-51I will miss it a lot. 73's Peter VE7NGP -Original Message- From:

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:49:31 -0600 K4FEG k4...@k4feg.com wrote: For those that are not sure, YES I AM MAKING A JOKE! I wasn't entirely joking when I suggested something similar previously, although maybe el-cheapo Chinese handies would be a better bet than some old GP300s picked out of the

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread George Henry
Better yet, take the 10.8 MHz IF output from one of their old Bearcat scanners, programmed for a 2-meter uplink, add an appropriate local oscillator and high pass filter, feed the resulting signal to the final stage from one of their old sideband CB's, and you've got a mode A *LINEAR*

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Bob- W7LRD
- Original Message - From: George Henry ka3...@att.net To: AMSAT amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:06:39 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire Better yet, take the 10.8 MHz IF output from one of their old Bearcat scanners, programmed for a 2-meter uplink, add

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:33 AM 11/30/2011, Bob- W7LRD wrote: Cool George! it's not the building and concepts that's difficult. It's getting the damn things up there. We should have a division of AMSAT that does rockets, and launch our own. Like my Dad told me, Or get in league with an amateur rocketry

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Lowell White
2011 04:38:33 PM CST From: Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net To: George Henry ka3...@att.netCc: AMSAT amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire Cool George! it's not the building and concepts that's difficult.  It's getting the damn things up there.  We should have a division

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Andy Kellner
-- Received: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 04:38:33 PM CST From: Bob- W7LRD w7...@comcast.net To: George Henry ka3...@att.netCc: AMSAT amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire Cool George! it's not the building and concepts that's difficult.  It's getting the damn things up there.  We should

[amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Satire

2011-11-29 Thread Luc Leblanc
On 29 Nov 2011 at 8:49, K4FEG wrote: Date sent: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:49:31 -0600 From: K4FEG k4...@k4feg.com Subject:[amsat-bb] Satellite Satire To: amsat-bb@amsat.org OK I have a suggestion: a new inexpensive satellite, It will