Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC Idea - Corpus-based lexicalised feature transfer

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 27 March 2012 02:07, Sambhav Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I have shaped the idea for the "Corpus-based lexicalised feature > transfer". Feedback is welcome. > >   DEFINITENESS >   > >   Proposing a module "Definiteness Adapter" which will lie just before > morphological generation in the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC 2012 - adopting a language pair (fr-ro)

2012-03-28 Thread Hrvoje Peradin
Hello, When matching a pattern and outputting an LU you have to exactly add all the morphological tags as they are in your monodix, otherwise you'll get an "#" error. If you are matching an entry different from the one in the example, with different tags, you need to output them all in the transfe

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC 2012 - adopting a language pair (fr-ro)

2012-03-28 Thread Alexandru Blanda
Hello, While going through the Apertium_New_Language_Pair_HOWTO I came across what seems to be an incomplete rule. Or at least it didn't work in my case :). In the section dealing with verbs, the complete rule would be in my opinion:

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC Idea - Corpus-based lexicalised feature transfer

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dt 27 de 03 de 2012 a les 06:37 +0530, en/na Sambhav Jain va escriure: > Hi, > > I have shaped the idea for the "Corpus-based lexicalised feature > transfer". Feedback is welcome. > > http://apertium.codepad.org/F9AlEyZS (better formatted text) > > Apertium > > > Corpus-based l

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 23:13, Bernard Chardonneau wrote: > So, if I follow : > > Preliminary question : What about Apertium on Android ? > This is a follow-up to another thread that was discussing exactly that. > Second questions : What is interesting for Apertium team to develop > Apertium aplication

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 23:30, Ryan Johnson wrote: > Pardon if I missed somewhere in the thread, but why even go through the app > store? You did, but it was another thread (actually, a couple of other threads), so we won't tar and feather you for it :) > If the point is to have ssomething that works o

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Ryan Johnson
On Mar 28, 2012 6:20 AM, "Jacob Nordfalk" wrote: > > > > 2012/3/28 Jacob Nordfalk >> >> What!? >> >> >> 2012/3/28 Jimmy O'Regan >>> >>> On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: >>> > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. >>> > >>> >>> The short answer is, it c

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dj 29 de 03 de 2012 a les 00:13 +0200, en/na Bernard Chardonneau va escriure: > > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:27:24 +0100 > > From: "Jimmy O'Regan" > > To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > > Reply-To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Ape

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Bernard Chardonneau
> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:27:24 +0100 > From: "Jimmy O'Regan" > To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > Reply-To: apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go. > On 28 March 2012 14:19, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > > 2012/3/28

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Mikel Artetxe >> Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. >> > > > As it has been said, the main problem to publish in the app store would be > the GPL license: Apple doesn't currently allow apps licensed under GPL > > In any case, I think that working for

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > Just mention that the main problem that I found when working on the iOS > > prototype was the fact that there were several duplicated symbols. For > > instance, each program (ltproc, interchunk, postchunk and so on) has > > logically a main function but, since iOS apps must consist of a single

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Mikel Artetxe
> > If you really really want to make a GUI on this, fine, OK. But I'd >>> expect it to not been usen very often and I'd only spend limited time on >>> it. And as command line script for group 1) I think a makefile/shell script >>> is more adequate. >>> >> >> Now I really understand you and you ha

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 14:19, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > 2012/3/28 Jacob Nordfalk >> What!? >> 2012/3/28 Jimmy O'Regan >>> >>> On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: >>> > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. >>> > >>> >>> The short answer is, it can't be. >>> >>> T

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 13:24, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > What!? The App Store usage agreement has improved a little: You may not copy (except as expressly permitted by this license and the Usage Rules), decompile, reverse-engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, modify, or create deri

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Orosz György
Thanks for the help, Gyorgy On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 14:43, Jimmy O'Regan wrote: > 2012/3/28 Francis Tyers : > > It isn't used for morphological analysis, the morphological analyser is > > used for that. I believe that the expansion is used, along with the TSX > > file, for calculating the ambigu

[Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Jacob Nordfalk > What!? > > > 2012/3/28 Jimmy O'Regan > >> On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: >> > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. >> > >> >> The short answer is, it can't be. >> >> The long answer is, it would require every major contrib

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
2012/3/28 Francis Tyers : > It isn't used for morphological analysis, the morphological analyser is > used for that. I believe that the expansion is used, along with the TSX > file, for calculating the ambiguity classes. But someone else might know > better. It's the analysis of the expansion. Con

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
What!? 2012/3/28 Jimmy O'Regan > On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. > > > > The short answer is, it can't be. > > The long answer is, it would require every major contributor of every > component that would be di

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk wrote: > Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. > The short answer is, it can't be. The long answer is, it would require every major contributor of every component that would be distributed to agree to a set of exceptions to the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dc 28 de 03 de 2012 a les 12:43 +0200, en/na Orosz György va escriure: > Thanks, for clarifying things. > > > It is clear. I am wondering about the supervised training: > is it > > possible to train the tagger (in a supervised manner) > without creating >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Orosz György
Thanks, for clarifying things. > It is clear. I am wondering about the supervised training: is it > > possible to train the tagger (in a supervised manner) without creating > > all the lexical resources used by the MT system? What is > > not obvious for me, that why are these parameters needed: >

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Mikel Artetxe > >> If you really really want to make a GUI on this, fine, OK. But I'd >> expect it to not been usen very often and I'd only spend limited time on >> it. And as command line script for group 1) I think a makefile/shell script >> is more adequate. >> > > Now I really unde

Re: [Apertium-stuff] About de-duplicating of dictionaries

2012-03-28 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ilnar Salimzyan writes: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer > wrote: >> Ilnar Salimzyan >> writes: >> >>> This thread grew out of the discussion of my proposal draft [see >>> "GSoC: Adopting a language pair: Tur-Tat / Kaz-Tat" from March 26]. >>> >>> Having discussed the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Google SofC Question

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dt 27 de 03 de 2012 a les 19:25 +, en/na ASKINS, ANDREW va escriure: > I'm interested in applying to the Google Summer of Code program, but I > don't have any prior experience working with open source, so to get > adjusted and to prove that I can learn as I go I wanted to try to find > a min

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dc 28 de 03 de 2012 a les 10:20 +0200, en/na Orosz György va escriure: > Hi, > > > thanks for helping. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:25, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer > wrote: > Orosz György writes: > > > Dear All, > > > > I am asking your help, hope someo

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Orosz György
Hi, thanks for helping. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:25, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > Orosz György writes: > > > Dear All, > > > > I am asking your help, hope someone can clarify these thigs: I am > wondering if it is > > possible to use the apertium tagger as a standalone application, without

Re: [Apertium-stuff] About de-duplicating of dictionaries

2012-03-28 Thread Ilnar Salimzyan
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: > Ilnar Salimzyan > writes: > >> This thread grew out of the discussion of my proposal draft [see >> "GSoC: Adopting a language pair: Tur-Tat / Kaz-Tat" from March 26]. >> >> Having discussed the problem of monodixes/lexc-files copie

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Orosz György writes: > Dear All, > > I am asking your help, hope someone can clarify these thigs: I am wondering > if it is > possible to use the apertium tagger as a standalone application, without > creating all > the resources used by the MT system. It's possible to use it by itself, like

Re: [Apertium-stuff] About de-duplicating of dictionaries

2012-03-28 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ilnar Salimzyan writes: > This thread grew out of the discussion of my proposal draft [see > "GSoC: Adopting a language pair: Tur-Tat / Kaz-Tat" from March 26]. > > Having discussed the problem of monodixes/lexc-files copied in many > pairs (and in more and more pairs) with Jonathan and seeing th