Re: [Apertium-stuff] About de-duplicating of dictionaries

2012-03-28 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ilnar Salimzyan ilnar.salimz...@gmail.com writes: This thread grew out of the discussion of my proposal draft [see GSoC: Adopting a language pair: Tur-Tat / Kaz-Tat from March 26]. Having discussed the problem of monodixes/lexc-files copied in many pairs (and in more and more pairs) with

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Orosz György oros...@itk.ppke.hu writes: Dear All, I am asking your help, hope someone can clarify these thigs: I am wondering if it is possible to use the apertium tagger as a standalone application, without creating all the resources used by the MT system. It's possible to use it by

Re: [Apertium-stuff] About de-duplicating of dictionaries

2012-03-28 Thread Ilnar Salimzyan
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.org wrote: Ilnar Salimzyan ilnar.salimz...@gmail.com writes: This thread grew out of the discussion of my proposal draft [see GSoC: Adopting a language pair: Tur-Tat / Kaz-Tat from March 26]. Having discussed the problem

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Orosz György
Hi, thanks for helping. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:25, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.orgwrote: Orosz György oros...@itk.ppke.hu writes: Dear All, I am asking your help, hope someone can clarify these thigs: I am wondering if it is possible to use the apertium tagger as a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dc 28 de 03 de 2012 a les 10:20 +0200, en/na Orosz György va escriure: Hi, thanks for helping. On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 09:25, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.org wrote: Orosz György oros...@itk.ppke.hu writes: Dear All, I am asking

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Google SofC Question

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dt 27 de 03 de 2012 a les 19:25 +, en/na ASKINS, ANDREW va escriure: I'm interested in applying to the Google Summer of Code program, but I don't have any prior experience working with open source, so to get adjusted and to prove that I can learn as I go I wanted to try to find a minor

Re: [Apertium-stuff] About de-duplicating of dictionaries

2012-03-28 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Ilnar Salimzyan ilnar.salimz...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.org wrote: Ilnar Salimzyan ilnar.salimz...@gmail.com writes: This thread grew out of the discussion of my proposal draft [see GSoC: Adopting a language pair: Tur-Tat /

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Mikel Artetxe artet...@gmail.com If you really really want to make a GUI on this, fine, OK. But I'd expect it to not been usen very often and I'd only spend limited time on it. And as command line script for group 1) I think a makefile/shell script is more adequate. Now I

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Orosz György
Thanks, for clarifying things. It is clear. I am wondering about the supervised training: is it possible to train the tagger (in a supervised manner) without creating all the lexical resources used by the MT system? What is not obvious for me, that why are these parameters needed:

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dc 28 de 03 de 2012 a les 12:43 +0200, en/na Orosz György va escriure: Thanks, for clarifying things. It is clear. I am wondering about the supervised training: is it possible to train the tagger (in a supervised manner) without creating all

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk jacob.nordf...@gmail.com wrote: Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. The short answer is, it can't be. The long answer is, it would require every major contributor of every component that would be distributed to agree to a

Re: [Apertium-stuff] apertium tagger usage

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
2012/3/28 Francis Tyers fty...@prompsit.com: It isn't used for morphological analysis, the morphological analyser is used for that. I believe that the expansion is used, along with the TSX file, for calculating the ambiguity classes. But someone else might know better. It's the analysis of

[Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Jacob Nordfalk jacob.nordf...@gmail.com What!? 2012/3/28 Jimmy O'Regan jore...@gmail.com On 28 March 2012 11:33, Jacob Nordfalk jacob.nordf...@gmail.com wrote: Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. The short answer is, it can't be. The long

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 13:24, Jacob Nordfalk jacob.nordf...@gmail.com wrote: What!? The App Store usage agreement has improved a little: You may not copy (except as expressly permitted by this license and the Usage Rules), decompile, reverse-engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Mikel Artetxe
If you really really want to make a GUI on this, fine, OK. But I'd expect it to not been usen very often and I'd only spend limited time on it. And as command line script for group 1) I think a makefile/shell script is more adequate. Now I really understand you and you have definitely

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Mikel Artetxe
Just mention that the main problem that I found when working on the iOS prototype was the fact that there were several duplicated symbols. For instance, each program (ltproc, interchunk, postchunk and so on) has logically a main function but, since iOS apps must consist of a single

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC - Make lttoolbox-java embeddable

2012-03-28 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/3/28 Mikel Artetxe artet...@gmail.com Overall, make sure that your port can be published in Apples store. As it has been said, the main problem to publish in the app store would be the GPL license: Apple doesn't currently allow apps licensed under GPL In any case, I think that

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSoC: Embedding Apertium in iPhone is a no-go.

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 28 March 2012 23:30, Ryan Johnson ryan.txan...@gmail.com wrote: Pardon if I missed somewhere in the thread, but why even go through the app store? You did, but it was another thread (actually, a couple of other threads), so we won't tar and feather you for it :) If the point is to have

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC Idea - Corpus-based lexicalised feature transfer

2012-03-28 Thread Francis Tyers
El dt 27 de 03 de 2012 a les 06:37 +0530, en/na Sambhav Jain va escriure: Hi, I have shaped the idea for the Corpus-based lexicalised feature transfer. Feedback is welcome. http://apertium.codepad.org/F9AlEyZS (better formatted text) Apertium Corpus-based lexicalised

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC 2012 - adopting a language pair (fr-ro)

2012-03-28 Thread Alexandru Blanda
Hello, While going through the Apertium_New_Language_Pair_HOWTO I came across what seems to be an incomplete rule. Or at least it didn't work in my case :). In the section dealing with verbs, the complete rule would be in my opinion: rule pattern pattern-item n=vrb/ /pattern action

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC 2012 - adopting a language pair (fr-ro)

2012-03-28 Thread Hrvoje Peradin
Hello, When matching a pattern and outputting an LU you have to exactly add all the morphological tags as they are in your monodix, otherwise you'll get an # error. If you are matching an entry different from the one in the example, with different tags, you need to output them all in the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] GSOC Idea - Corpus-based lexicalised feature transfer

2012-03-28 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On 27 March 2012 02:07, Sambhav Jain sam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have shaped the idea for the Corpus-based lexicalised feature transfer. Feedback is welcome.   DEFINITENESS     Proposing a module Definiteness Adapter which will lie just before morphological generation in