Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Per Tunedal
Hi, See below. Yours, Per Tunedal On Sun, Dec 16, 2012, at 23:07, Francis Tyers wrote: El dg 16 de 12 de 2012 a les 14:21 +0100, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure: Hi, I consider info on primarily domain and secondly style useful for disambiguation. As a first step it would be very nice to be

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
Per Tunedal per.tune...@operamail.com writes: Hi, See below. Yours, Per Tunedal On Sun, Dec 16, 2012, at 23:07, Francis Tyers wrote: El dg 16 de 12 de 2012 a les 14:21 +0100, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure: Hi, I consider info on primarily domain and secondly style useful for

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Per Tunedal
Hi again, see below. Yours, Per Tunedal On Mon, Dec 17, 2012, at 16:00, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Per Tunedal per.tune...@operamail.com writes: Hi, See below. Yours, Per Tunedal On Sun, Dec 16, 2012, at 23:07, Francis Tyers wrote: El dg 16 de 12 de 2012 a les 14:21 +0100,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Francis Tyers
El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 17:19 +0100, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure: ... snip ... Hmm, I thought that some training might cover up what wasn't manually added, somehow. Anyhow, what if I skip the training? Can manually added domain-info be used by Apertium? Yes, like we suggested. You

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread keld
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 05:19:31PM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hi again, see below. Yours, Per Tunedal On Mon, Dec 17, 2012, at 16:00, Kevin Brubeck Unhammer wrote: Per Tunedal per.tune...@operamail.com writes: Hi, See below. Yours, Per Tunedal On Sun, Dec 16, 2012,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Per Tunedal
Hi, I've already added some info on style in the comments, according to your prior suggestions, Francis, like this: e lm=dagis c=fam a=PT Now you suggest adding info on domain like this: e c=domain:foo May I, using a similar approach for style, suggest something like this: e lm=dagis c=style:fam

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Francis Tyers
El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 19:22 +0100, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure: Hi, I've already added some info on style in the comments, according to your prior suggestions, Francis, like this: e lm=dagis c=fam a=PT Now you suggest adding info on domain like this: e c=domain:foo May I, using

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Tino Didriksen
To me, those examples have nothing to do with domain or style. They can be solved in better general ways with a mix of CG, semantics, and lexical selection. And I know this, 'cause it's what our non-Apertium closed-source translation engine uses. For example, the English text The key to the

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Per Tunedal
Hi, Fine. I'll try that. I hope to be able to do some work by the end of this week. Yours, Per Tunedal On Mon, Dec 17, 2012, at 19:26, Francis Tyers wrote: El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 19:22 +0100, en/na Per Tunedal va escriure: Hi, --snip-- e lm=dagis c=domain:family style:fam a=PT

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Francis Tyers
El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 19:30 +0100, en/na Tino Didriksen va escriure: To me, those examples have nothing to do with domain or style. They can be solved in better general ways with a mix of CG, semantics, and lexical selection. And I know this, 'cause it's what our non-Apertium

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread keld
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 06:59:29PM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hi Keld, yes, your suggestion is very interesting. Meaning is a very important aspect of a word! Have you done any work on it? I have only discussed it on the mailing list, as I don't think I can get anywhere without some consent of

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Francis Tyers
El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 23:04 +0100, en/na k...@keldix.com va escriure: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 06:59:29PM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hi Keld, yes, your suggestion is very interesting. Meaning is a very important aspect of a word! Have you done any work on it? I have only discussed

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread keld
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 07:30:39PM +0100, Tino Didriksen wrote: To me, those examples have nothing to do with domain or style. They can be solved in better general ways with a mix of CG, semantics, and lexical selection. And I know this, 'cause it's what our non-Apertium closed-source

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread keld
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 08:07:05PM +, Francis Tyers wrote: El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 23:04 +0100, en/na k...@keldix.com va escriure: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 06:59:29PM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hi Keld, yes, your suggestion is very interesting. Meaning is a very important

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Francis Tyers
El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 23:25 +0100, en/na k...@keldix.com va escriure: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 08:07:05PM +, Francis Tyers wrote: El dl 17 de 12 de 2012 a les 23:04 +0100, en/na k...@keldix.com va escriure: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 06:59:29PM +0100, Per Tunedal wrote: Hi Keld,

Re: [Apertium-stuff] Domain and style/genre

2012-12-17 Thread Jacob Nordfalk
2012/12/17 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer unham...@fsfe.org What will work with the java-version? And what will not? What's the problem? No one has re-implemented the apertium-lex-tools package in Java yet. But the more languages that are depended on this feature the more likely it'd get