Werner, With all due respect to you, you are a person who has nothing
but the best of hopes and wishes for the city and the people who live
and work and play in Asbury Park. You seem to forget that prior to the
Weldon led takeover, no one but no one was willing to invest a dime in
the
However, anything that can curtail or end what has started would be
disastrous. Can you imagine having 3 C8's darkening Asbury's
waterfront. Let them get these 3 projects done
Right now, leave well
enough alone, there is new, and quality construction going up on
Asbury's waterfront. In Long
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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You seem to forget that prior to the
Weldon led takeover, no one but no one was willing to invest
a dime in the waterfront.
My memory of quite good and that is just not true. In just the year
or two BW (before Weldon)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This line of thinking plays right into the lie that questioning
anything will stop everything. The City is again being held hostage,
by mass psychology.
These are the scare tactics I referred to in prior reference to the
Gary-
The very fact that people are just now realizing what guests on Restore Radio - now Asbury Radio - have been saying for the past five years is a testament to the disinformation campaignwaged so successfully againstthis important forum. "Oh, don't listen to that show, she's so negative.
The Journal of Foreign Affairsspelled outthe very real - Reagan unrelated - reasons for the downfall of the Soviet economy in 1980.
In a message dated 8/18/2005 7:56:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes:
Ronnie did kill the Commies, by taking advantage of thier
Just a few observations from Asbury Radio's table -
After two days in the blistering heat at the Clearwater Festival, perhaps not the best environment for obtaining positive feedback, I perceived a decidedly sober tone among visitors. This is in contrast to past years when they were almost
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Just a few observations from Asbury Radio's table -
And, they expressed suspicion about the city's dedication to restore
the
landmarks, because of the current appearance and the time that's gone
by since the
City started its
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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There is a common denominator here. In
the best of ironies, I hear Asbury Partners is suing a private
group
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Weldon,Fishman,Aaron + Naive City Council = Land Grab
Thinking of Ironies, I suggested a while ago that
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Now, if substantial work had already progressed on the
pavillions and historic structures, and other amenities of
the general area, the downturn would be weathered differently.
Forgive me for being blue this week, it was
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't think Asbury Partners or their supporters need to wage
a disinformation campaign when the people opposing them are being
so contradictory.
I don't think we are contradictory, it's just free thinking. I
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thinking of Ironies, I suggested a while ago that the City declare
the beachfront, east of Ocean Avenue, a redevelopment area and
exercise eminent domain on the Pavilions, Con Hall, Casino, Etc.
Oh, you thought it
...
Now, if substantial work had already progressed on the
pavillions and historic structures, and other amenities of
the general area, the downturn would be weathered differently.
Forgive me for being blue this week, it was just a full moon
in the past few days.
From the 'Deal':
3.3
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How long has it been since the appovals?
I think one of Tommy's points is the difficulty of obtaining approvals.
Perhaps you could clear this up for us Werber, can you summarize
exactly what has been applied for and what
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think one of Tommy's points is the difficulty of obtaining
approvals.
Perhaps you could clear this up for us (Werner), can you summarize
exactly what has been applied for and what has been approved?
Also, the way it is
.the city cannot condemn any property within the redevelopment area without
Asbury Partners' approval. .you said that does not include the beachfront,
pavillions, CH, Casino, etc. I think. that that is not clear. In any event,
that would require a city that stands up to Asbury Partners.
That
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't there a lawyer here somewhere? :-) Tom, how about looking at
that section of the agreement and giving us an analysis? The document
is in the files section of the group.
Show me two lawyers and I'll show you two
Tom too has a conflict, our wonder boy works for the Fish.
Skip Bernstein
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom too has a conflict, our wonder boy works for the Fish.
Tom, clear the air. Do you or don't you? I for one will take you at
your word.
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That clause puts the MD in a higher level of control than the City
Government itself.
OH, Now I Get it !! :-)
Why does that surprise you? Have you seen any contrary evidence in the
past couple of years with regard to
Glad to answer you Dan: I've never had any business dealings with
Larry or Glen Fishman, MD Sass, Al Fiella (spelling?) Asbury Partners,
Ansel's office (other than cases against them) or any of the
subdevelopers. Perhaps Skippy can tell us what he is talking about.
In an attempt to have
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Two candidates running for Assembly (Doherty Reilly) have set
themselves up as the anti-Eminent Domain candidates.
I read that, I thought you meant a new article.
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Why not? They're running everything else and building nothing! Where's the taxes Asbury was supposed to get?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"dfsavgny\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"wernerapnj"<[EMAIL
Lightly,
I agree with you! Now watch someone come in here and contradict me, with 20 answers!
I love this town!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--Lighty<[EMAIL
Skip,
Don't know who Tom works for, but rumor has it, that someone in City Hall SLEEPS with the Fish! Just the regular dirt going around. Don't know how true it is, so no names, please!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"SkipBernstein\"<[EMAIL
Don't mean to be fecetious, so I WILL be. What's the City's Master Plan? In the long run, what's the deal? Please, don't everybody stampede to tell me! Is it online? Are there documents I can look at? I'm from Missouri, Show Me!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"SkipBernstein\"<[EMAIL
Looks like the City is getting it from both ends! Funny, these redevelopement, city and school board attorneys take the city for a ride every four years with their atrocious fees, that get the city screwed even more! I know, I worked for the City Attorney, remember? I don't have a clue as to how
So do you mean, that Asbury Partners has a "George Bush", mentality? My way or the highway? "Stay the course", type of thing? This will only incite the citizens here, as Cindy Sheehan started her protest of "one" and it snowballed! One Mother protesting the senseless death of HER son, but Mr.
Werner,
Thanks for the link. Someone told me it was online but I didn't have a clue, again, thanks!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"wernerapnj\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"dfsavgny"<[EMAIL
Werner,
You said a mouthful! "Hit the head on the Nail", "took the bull by the horns" and every other overused and overworked cliche', but you said it and it IS ironic, isn't IT! I thought Aaron worked for them too. Seems like it was intimated in this forum, but maybe I'm confused, as usual!
After the riots of July 1970, a mall was built off the Asbury Circle. It opened around 1975, with the Steinbach Store being the anchor, then Sears moved across 66, from where the IHOP is. The main entrance to Sears was there. The closing of Steinbach's on Cookman sounded the death knell of the
Excellent blow by blow Sharon. The only stores I
can think of that somehow weathered the storm are Carl (Mr. Fashion)
Felix Fox, the paint store. It's a toss up between Steinbach's the Asbury
Park Press regarding the death knell scenario I think.
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Sharon, I don't need names; all
of the old council, with the exception of John Hamilton, is in bed with the
Fish. Rumor has it that Tommy's looking for wriggle room to get in on the
action.
Skip Bernstein[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://JerseyShoreRocks.com
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