[AsburyPark] Re: esperanza

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True. Those were the only aboptable matters as they were the only matters reviewed by the Planning Board. The June draft wasn't. Clarification. Only the March 15 version was actually marked DRAFT. The later June 5

[AsburyPark] New Yahoo AP Group

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/allthingsasbury Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM

Re: [AsburyPark] Digest Number 1505

2005-11-01 Thread traderdube
I really do not understand the anguish over the C-8 building and the plan that was filed, albeit he wrong plan. At the last council meeting, there acrimony over tis situation was alarming. Anguished vows and the innate desire to lambaste the mayor. It sure seemed to boil down to 2 issues. 1,

[AsburyPark] The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
To make it easier to discuss the C8 problem, some terms need to be clarified to make it easier to talk about: THE PLAN: There is only one plan. Always has been just one. It has been amended 3 times, but that does not make for a new plan. It is the same plan, but amended. The Plan is the

Re: [AsburyPark] The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread charlie leonard
bluebiship, that makes it pretty easy to understand. i knew all this stuff at one time, but the last year, i havnt been following things as closley as i use to. and forgot most of the things, but i do remember that now. was there something somewhere that talked about the c8, if it should come

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that makes it pretty easy to understand. That's why I term them versions of the PLAN. Both the March 15 and June 5 versions have the earlier dates on them, so we are not confusing. What is confusing is how a

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There will be a public input period. Then the DEP will rule, and I'm predicting they rule in favor of the 10 and 16 story C8 building. I doubt there will be public hearings or input again. It will all be smoothed

[AsburyPark] New Yahoo Group

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
Tom, You are bing referred to on the new group. I don't look forward to being a referee, but I also don't like someone not having their say. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there is very little difference between the March and June proposals, this will all be over quickly. The DEP will re-review the portions of the March proposal that are different than the June proposal. There

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
Since there is very little difference between the March and June proposals, this will all be over quickly. The DEP will re-review the portions of the March proposal that are different than the June proposal. There will be a public input period. Then the DEP will rule, and I'm predicting they

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
I believe there has to be a public input period by law. There never was any on the March proposal (at least on the terms that are different than the June proposal). It may not necessarily be a public hearing with a microphone (although it may be) but there will certainly be a public input

[AsburyPark] Re: New Yahoo Group

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
I saw that already. Two posts with insults about me from him and I'm not even on the group. I'm not going to put your new group through that. No one wants to read it, particularly me. Thanks for the heads up though. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[AsburyPark] Re: Digest Number 1505

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really do not understand the anguish over the C-8 building and the plan that was filed, albeit he wrong plan. There is no anquish over the building or the site itself. What the anguish is about is either the

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to criticize you for knowing what side yur bread is buttered on. Puhlze! It isn't exactly a blockbuster appointment like Ansell or the Board of Ed attorney has. It's comparatively small. I didn't miss a

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe there has to be a public input period by law. There never was any on the March proposal (at least on the terms that are different than the June proposal). But there was public hearings and planning board

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan - buttering bread

2005-11-01 Thread Skip Bernstein
Aaron is a cheerleader for the developer. You cannot admit that publicly Tom, I understand that. I will not judge you for it as long as you do not defend what was done. But if you defend it, then I have to criticize you for knowing what side your bread is buttered on. Hold on there Dan, judging

[AsburyPark] Tomorrow's City Council

2005-11-01 Thread dfsavgny
If you can make it, try to attend tomorrow's city council meeting. I will be calling on the council to fire the city's redevelopment attorney, Jim Aaron. Of course I will be polite enough to ask him to resign first. I will be presenting evidence to show a clear case of conflict of interest,

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
I'm not talking about planning board public hearing - we both agree that did happen. I'm talking about DEP public hearing. That will have to be re-done when they consider for the first time the March proposal (instead of the June proposal). However, it will likely be limited to just the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread David J. Mieras
1984 plan doesn't seem to amount to a hill of beans in the long run? 22 years, so what is your definition of the long run Tommy? - Original Message - From: bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The

[AsburyPark] Re: The Plan

2005-11-01 Thread bluebishop82
I wasn't referring to the plan there. What won't amount to a hill of beans is the current hand-wringing over the mix up between the March and June proposals. Nothing is going to come of it but the Esperanza construction being put on hold for a few weeks. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,

[AsburyPark] City Council Regular Meeting 11-2-05

2005-11-01 Thread gtscarano212
04:00 pm City Council Executive Session 06:00 pm City Council Work Session 07:00 pm City Council Regular Meeting file cannot be opened at this time. Are you interested if C-8 if rebuilt or should that block