[AsburyPark] Re: For the record Oak

2011-08-16 Thread fancypaaantz
If they don¹t make us a part of it, it may get to a point where we¹ll burn the whole fucking thing down. Maybe if we march down Cookman and break some windows and scare some of these white people, then they will listen to us.² Did you share this with the police? That sounds to me like a

[AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@... wrote: All I know is the rich and famous go to rehab over and over while the poor get locked up and they throw away the key and in some cases like gangs and drugs, it should be! Spend a few hours in AP Muni court. I believe in the

[AsburyPark] Re: Upperclass boardwalk and downtown?

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: Those homes are condemned, well a lot of them are at least No. The feds spent about $100 million rehabbing them all - from top to bottom. THEN knocked them down. There was that fear of over crowded schools or creating a

[AsburyPark] Re: For the record Oak

2011-08-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Educating for Justice jim@... wrote: After the wake, I drove four of the young man¹s friends home. I knew two of them from coaching rec basketball, so they felt somewhat comfortable speaking with me. I asked them what they thought about AP and the

[AsburyPark] not just here

2011-08-16 Thread dfsavgny
August 12, 2011 A Summer Idyll, and Then Three Bullets By JOHN LELAND IN the hour before sunset on June 30, Calvin Chu was with his wife, Melissa, and 15-month-old daughter, Emma, at the playground in Morningside Park, awaiting the long holiday weekend. Children splashed under graceful arcs of

Re: [AsburyPark] not just here

2011-08-16 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 8/16/2011 dfsav...@yahoo.com writes: August 12, 2011, A Summer Idyll, and Then Three Bullets, By JOHN LELAND === Similarly, the link below is to one of several I seen this summer regarding increasing problems for police. I chose this one

[AsburyPark] this reminds me of someone

2011-08-16 Thread dfsavgny
a quote about christine quinn of NYC but reminds me of someone local You can be the attack-dog politician — score points and accomplish nothing — or you can decide to get things done, and she decided to get things done, Mr. Skyler said. Yahoo! Groups

[AsburyPark] the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
part of what Jim wrote... the guy who was drunk got visibly enraged. He burst into tears, screaming, ³JIM! I¹m 26 years old and I can¹t fucking read! I can¹t read! How can I get a job? I can¹t fucking read!² That is not his fault. He was failed by both his family (if one existed) and

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@... wrote: Mucho dinero. The business of low income and poor is big business. I just said that the other day to someone looking to rent a building in AP for a program. We have people... but we need to be in the AP/Neptune area...

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: How about aid/assistance for performance. Attending school, grades, attending parents teacher meetings, seeking employment, etc. because that's not fair. some notes: NJ Department of Human Services Division of Family

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread fancypaaantz
Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, so again you are still talking about the concentration of poverty/segregation. Here is the head start for Bergen County, it is in a couple of spots, none in the Northern part of the county and it runs from 845-345. That does

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@... wrote: Oak, a lot of these programs are only available in the poorest areas, Don't blame me. Blame the directors. Apparently, no one has the common sense to see that they have a problem with hours. The real problem is,

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread cbrianwatkins
That building would be great for youth programs considering the location to the HS Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: oakdorf oakd...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:49:49 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To:

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: That building would be great for youth programs considering the location to the HS You and I might think that. But I contacted Interfaith Neighbors, sent letters to the city, chamber, school board (thanks to garret responded)

[AsburyPark] Re: not just here

2011-08-16 Thread 2fast4u
Read it in today's Press! An eye-opener. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@... wrote: In a message dated 8/16/2011 dfsavgny@... writes: August 12, 2011, A Summer Idyll, and Then Three Bullets, By JOHN LELAND === Similarly, the link below is to

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread Jenni
I still like the idea someone had on here awhile back. Make the assistance - section 8, welfare, food stamps, etc, contingent on the kids having acceptable grades. Also make it contingent upon the parents attempting to get work or better their lives in some way. If the pattern is broken, the

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread oakdorf
then if the kids don't get good grades - then what? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to:

[AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread dfsavgny
dont have to be good grades but improvement and trying. when there is an incentive perhaps parents will make be involved and that is what is missing. A vicious cycle. As a liberal I acknowledge some of the failures of the Great Society and the welfare system. --- In

RE: [AsburyPark] Re: the guy who couldn't read...

2011-08-16 Thread Jenni
If they don't get decent grades (or at least passing), the family loses the funding. We are paying billions of dollars in tax money for assistance programs for people who could care less about improving themselves, all they are doing is passing the same problem on to the next generation. There