So what is your point Mr Svensson ?
How and what I advertise is up to me and my company. It is upto the carrier to test my quality and ASR, which is 55%. We provide stability and the best QoS and to prove it we are open for testing any time any carrier desires.
Ve2 and Ve4 helps the carri
On 10/10/05 01:17 Reid Forrest said the following:
developing, funding, and releasing Asterisk. I think they deserve to profit
from their work, and I will support them. If some on this list don't agree
as do many, through the purchase of TDM/TE4XXP cards. in reality, i think
we're still a lon
On 10/09/05 21:54 Matt Riddell said the following:
an unbelievable day filled with people doing things in business that you just
wouldn't do in a group of friends.
and that's the crux. it really shouldnt have had to come to this, with
differences ironed out over a discussion, private or publi
On 10/09/05 21:22 Paul said the following:
2) Somebody uses open source as part of a custom solution without the
consent of the customer. If it turns out the customer had plans to sell
business franchises or even sell the software to competitors the courts
have good reason to get involved. I pi
On 10/09/05 23:51 Jeremy McNamara said the following:
RIGHT ON! None of these bastards would have the power of Asterisk to
fork if Digium hadn't gave it to the world in the first place.
My Loyalties are to Mark and Digium all the way.
let's not turn it into a "Us vs Them" type of thing. man
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 19:48 -0400, Tony Fontoura wrote:
> If it is open, why ask for written consent?
>
One issue that plagues many currently active gpl products is lack of a
paper trail to show that the contributor of the code actually had the
legal right to contribute it. Patent law does still
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Peter Nixon wrote:
H... Another piece of software that works with Digium's hardware but
doesn't require any of Digium's resources to maintain, with the added
advantage of having more features than the software that Digium already gives
away for free as a loss leader to sell their hardware..
If it is open, why ask for written consent?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:22 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org
Kenn
> > > Matt Riddell wrote:
> > > >I for one have built my business around a product Digium has given
me.
> > >
> > > I'm
> > >
> > > >not about to turn around and stab them in the back.
> > >
> > > RIGHT ON! None of these bastards would have the power of Asterisk to
> > > fork if Digium hadn't ga
Interesting that you so
open advertise an illegal setup. Also notice that prepayment is gone
Anders
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Md Mostofa Azad
Sent: den 9 oktober 2005 21:53
To: asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Selling
>> I find myself in the unusual position of agreeing with Jeremy here. :) (no
> offense intended, Jeremy.) I don't want to get into legalities or dive into> this flame war, but I think that Digium has done the world a great service> by developing, funding, and releasing Asterisk. I think they deser
Sirs,
I am selling our direct route to Bangladesh (BD) Mobile (8801) for Call Termination.
Our Technical information ** *** Gateway : CISCOGateway Bands: E1 Capacity : 12.5 Million minutes per month Codec used : G723 / G729.1 Signalization GW :
My name is Joshua Colp, or file on IRC, I am part of the OpenPBX project -
but don't judge me as the enemy because of that. I have already talked with
Mark, Russell, and others about my stand on both OpenPBX and Asterisk. I
still treat them as friends even during these rocky times. I'm not going to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If all parts to OpenPBX were disclaimed and available to Digium, then I
wouldn't have a problem with it.
Their only real reason for forking is because Digium will not or could
not accept their contributions.
Jeremy McNamara
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Peter Nixon wrote:
Can someone please explain how this "works against Digium"??
It is not Digium, its Asterisk that you will be working against. You
are segmenting the limited amount of resources that are available to the
Asterisk development effort. This general topic was well hashed
On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Peter Nixon wrote:
> H... Another piece of software that works with Digium's hardware but
> doesn't require any of Digium's resources to maintain, with the added
> advantage of having more features than the software that Digium already
> gives away for free as a loss leader
On Sunday 09 October 2005 20:17, Reid Forrest wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy McNamara
> > Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 11:52 AM
> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > Subje
Hello All,
I am working on starting a phone card business; mainly for international calls. Can any one help me with informations and tips.
Tx
Moris
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David Webster wrote:
FWIW, as a potential user lurking in the background and reading a
message like the one below does not give me a positive impression of
the writer's professionalism. And if that lack of professionalism has
permeated the enterprise, I don't want to do business with them.
David Webster wrote:
FWIW, as a potential user lurking in the background and reading a
message like the one below does not give me a positive impression of
the writer's professionalism. And if that lack of professionalism has
permeated the enterprise, I don't want to do business with them.
I
FWIW, as a potential user lurking in the background and reading a
message like the one below does not give me a positive impression of
the writer's professionalism. And if that lack of professionalism has
permeated the enterprise, I don't want to do business with them.
>>
>> RIGHT ON! None of t
Reid Forrest wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy McNamara
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 11:52 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org
M
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy McNamara
> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk Ffork - OpenPBX.org
>
> Matt Ri
RIGHT ON! None of these bastards would have the power of Asterisk to
fork if Digium hadn't gave it to the world in the first place.
While I think the project could have been started in a more 'diplomatic'
way, I don't think calling people names is the right way to go.
Hopefully both Aster
So what you are saying is that if I buy this product, I actually get
treated like I own the thing. Interesting concept.
Cory Andrews wrote:
Uniden does not have a service provider program like Linksys put in
place. The UIP1868 can be purchased by anyone, and used with any
compatible SIP serv
Peter Nixon wrote:
> I am not saying that I or anyone else involved is trying to damage Digium
> (The
> results of our efforts will be be more good GPL code which Digium is allowed
> to re-incorporate into any of their products under the terms of the GPL)
> but on what basis do you say that anyo
Uniden does not have a service provider program like Linksys put in
place. The UIP1868 can be purchased by anyone, and used with any
compatible SIP service, with no restrictions.
The "P" version would need to be unlocked to be used with something
besides Packet 8. As mentioned, the plain jan
Jeremy McNamara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That doesn't mean I could not fund the effort. After all how much
>financial backing does this fork really have?
You could only fund the effort if the IP holder wanted you to do so.
In terms of financial backing, I would suspect that they don't have
mu
On Sunday 09 October 2005 16:03, Matt Riddell wrote:
> Well, that's enough on the topic for me...
>
> This is the Asterisk List and that product has ceased to be Asterisk. I
> don't see why Digium (who gave us all Asterisk) should have to pay for
> advertising for a group of people who sign contra
Doug Meredith wrote:
I won't delve into the subtleties of the licensing, but I am curious
if you have standing to take action for violations of the licenses of
these products. As I understand it, only the intellectual property
holder can do so, not a third party.
That doesn't mean I could
Peter Nixon wrote:
As for inflammatory posts about OpenPBX, it should be clearly understood that
Jeremy McNamara has no affiliation with the OpenPBX project and anything he
posts about it should be taken with the mug full of salt that everything else
he says should be taken with.
You ar
Matt Riddell wrote:
I for one have built my business around a product Digium has given me. I'm
not about to turn around and stab them in the back.
RIGHT ON! None of these bastards would have the power of Asterisk to
fork if Digium hadn't gave it to the world in the first place.
My Lo
Doug Meredith wrote:
Jeremy McNamara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Furthermore, I better not see any H.323, G.729 or OpenSSL support in
this forked version or I will make it personal and sick the legal types
after whomever is responsible.
I won't delve into the subtleties of the licens
Does that mean the "P" version needs to be unlocked?
Does it also mean that support is only provided for use with Packet 8.
Do you have to get agreements from customers like you did for Linksys NA
suffix or can you just sell the things Qty 1 to anybody with money to spend?
Cory Andrews wrote:
Jeremy McNamara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Furthermore, I better not see any H.323, G.729 or OpenSSL support in
>this forked version or I will make it personal and sick the legal types
>after whomever is responsible.
I won't delve into the subtleties of the licensing, but I am curious
if you h
There might not be many future alternatives to Asterisk if you want
G.729 along with open source. Digium has a license agreement that might
not be available to newcomers.
Look at this:
http://www.sipro.com/news.php
Consider the title:
"The G.729 Consortium Updates its Licensing
Policy to Exc
The UIP-1868 (NON P) is the "open" version, that is not preconfigured
for use with a specific service provider. The "P" version is for Packet
8 use.
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On Sunday 09 October 2005 00:56, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> Dinesh Nair wrote:
> > in this instance, it definitely would be safer for the freebsd folk to
> > use chan_woomera to provide h.323 functionality on asterisk as this is a
> > legal quagmire an open source project (freebsd in this case) cant
On Saturday 08 October 2005 23:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Brian West wrote:
> > On 10/8/05 3:30 PM, "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Jeremy, I fully understand your explanation.
> > >
> > > The question that raises is: How does a GPL fork differ enough to lose
> > > t
Paul wrote:
> Hang in there, Matt. Sometimes less wealth and more sanity is the only
> logical choice. I have lots of poor friends but they are good friends.
Luckily money's not a problem, I just mourn the loss of friends.
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Matt Riddell wrote:
Paul wrote:
Matt Riddell wrote:
Well, that's enough on the topic for me...
This is the Asterisk List and that product has ceased to be Asterisk.
I don't
see why Digium (who gave us all Asterisk) should have to pay for
advertising
for a group of people who sign c
Paul wrote:
> Matt Riddell wrote:
>
>> Well, that's enough on the topic for me...
>>
>> This is the Asterisk List and that product has ceased to be Asterisk.
>> I don't
>> see why Digium (who gave us all Asterisk) should have to pay for
>> advertising
>> for a group of people who sign contracts s
Is the P in the product number there because it is intended for Packet 8
subscribers(like linksys does)?
Or is this an open product (more like sipura)?
Cory Andrews wrote:
We've gotten the UIP1868 to work with Asterisk.
Cory Andrews
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Matt Riddell wrote:
Well, that's enough on the topic for me...
This is the Asterisk List and that product has ceased to be Asterisk. I don't
see why Digium (who gave us all Asterisk) should have to pay for advertising
for a group of people who sign contracts saying they won't do anything to
da
Kenneth Shaw wrote:
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 12:25 -0400, Jeremy McNamara wrote:
smbPBX wrote:
Any thought from the business comminity?
Furthermore, I better not see any H.323, G.729 or OpenSSL support in
this forked version or I will make it personal and sick the legal types
af
We've gotten the UIP1868 to work with Asterisk.
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Buffalo, NY 14225
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CM Rahman wrote:
HI,
Uniden 1868P is packet 8 compatable, is it compata
Well, that's enough on the topic for me...
This is the Asterisk List and that product has ceased to be Asterisk. I don't
see why Digium (who gave us all Asterisk) should have to pay for advertising
for a group of people who sign contracts saying they won't do anything to
damage Digium and then pr
On Sunday 09 October 2005 00:44, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> Dinesh Nair wrote:
> > after the original asterisk source is untarred, and the freebsd specific
> > patches are applied to it, it ceases to be Asterisk(tm), correct ? since
> > the compilation and linking with openh323/openssl happens after
On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 12:25 -0400, Jeremy McNamara wrote:
> smbPBX wrote:
>
> > Any thought from the business comminity?
>
>
> Furthermore, I better not see any H.323, G.729 or OpenSSL support in
> this forked version or I will make it personal and sick the legal types
> after whomever is resp
On Sunday 09 October 2005 00:56, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
> Dinesh Nair wrote:
> > in this instance, it definitely would be safer for the freebsd folk to
> > use chan_woomera to provide h.323 functionality on asterisk as this is a
> > legal quagmire an open source project (freebsd in this case) cant
Hi,
Jeremy McNamara wrote:
Well, given that you didn't design H323 (The ITU did) or SSL (Netscape
did as far as I remember), and you don't own the patents to g.729 I
would say that you are full of shit and don't have any say in the matter.
That shows how totally ignorant you are. Open H.323
On 10/09/05 07:40 Bruce Ferrell said the following:
Dinesh Nair wrote:
-- >8 snippage 8< --
perhaps a rewrite of a GPLed H.323 stack is in order, then this whole
thing will go away.
That would be a not very fun thing to do... First you have to do a
i'm sure it wouldn't be.
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